Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-29 Thread Craig Montgomery
"I like this attitude. There is no right of wrong. One tip I have learned from this thread was to plan for my water consumption. That was the sort of no brainer thing that I never considered. I was happy to learn from someone else’s experience." Jason Yes. Yes. And yes. Gave a

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-28 Thread J L
I like this attitude. There is no right of wrong. One tip I have learned from this thread was to plan for my water consumption. That was the sort of no brainer thing that I never considered. I was happy to learn from someone else’s experience. Jason > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Jeffrey

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-28 Thread J L
Thanks! > On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:54 PM, Craig Montgomery wrote: > >  > Here's a fun one for you Jason. From the master himself: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny81vcxTZQk > > Ian always said what you take for the weekend is the same as what you take > around the world. The only

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-28 Thread Jock Dewey
Jason: Should maybe include a list of disclaimers -- I don't necessarily recommend following my tracks. But you can ride coast to coast just like this if you're crazy enough and don't know the difference. https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/39787656583/in/album-72157704309319711/ BTW,

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-27 Thread Craig Montgomery
gt; To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Reply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes > > > 13 L of water- wow!! > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:10 AM David Baldi > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I love cam

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-27 Thread Robert Tilley
on that trip. Robert Tilley San Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   Original Message   From: clarkfi...@gmail.com Sent: April 27, 2020 10:51 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-27 Thread Clark Fitzgerald
13 L of water- wow!! On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:10 AM David Baldi wrote: > > Hi all, > > I love camping with the Medium saddlesack. I have enough just enough > clearance to run the bag without any support (first run 59 Clem, PBH 90.5), > but I have a Mark's rack back there now and like having

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-27 Thread David Baldi
Hi all, I love camping with the Medium saddlesack. I have enough just enough clearance to run the bag without any support (first run 59 Clem, PBH 90.5), but I have a Mark's rack back there now and like having the extra stability. I have a cheap Soma rack upfront with a 137 Wald. For a three

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-23 Thread Collin A
Neil & Others, The loop you are describing sounds super nice, have you done it before (assuming yes, but want to confirm)? The route I'm working on to Truckee/Donner is a climb-heavy route, maybe 2 days (only done sections for recon). Probably best not to ride western states ;) The route I

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-23 Thread Clark Fitzgerald
+1 I would love to see that route from Sac to Truckee. I was looking at a route through Foresthill. On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 10:32:59 AM UTC-7, Neil Doran wrote: > > Collin, perhaps we could continue the thread drift a bit, because the > 'east side Lost Sierra' route you are describing

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-23 Thread Neil Doran
Collin, perhaps we could continue the thread drift a bit, because the 'east side Lost Sierra' route you are describing has been of large interest to me as well. My initial version is to ride from home (Rocklin) to Truckee, north around Stampede Reservoir and generally along the HWY 89 corridor

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-23 Thread Collin A
Nice, glad the hunkering was rewarded with a lovely view of the mountain! I was hoping to spend time this summer exploring the area, but that looks less likely each week... I met up with friends at summit lake for labor day weekend, then we drove home. I've been half-assing a route trying to

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-23 Thread Neil Doran
Thanks Collin! I've noodled the very southern end of that route on a three-day loop out of Chester. Spent two days and nights hunkered down at Manzanita Lake due to rain and snow. The weather cleared miraculously for us and we boogied down through Old Station. I'll never forget the view

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-23 Thread Bill Schairer
Collin, Thanks for the great write-up, photos, and maps! I’m saving that for future reference. Bill S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-22 Thread Collin A
Well aren't you in luck...wrote it up about a year ago. Links to the route are at the bottom https://docs.google.com/document/d/17d158deQiEkjr8pvIZfszoqJQqghZVNFzBsoZmqhg-E/edit?usp=sharing And thanks for the compliments on the clem, it definitely serves well as a mostly blank and adaptable

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-22 Thread Neil Doran
Great thread, looks like most of the options are covered! In honing my Riv-style dirtbagging setup, I've found it is very hard to beat a front basket on a solid rack with a bungee net to handle overflow. That is the core of my system, paired with a Carsick bartender bag and a Swift burrito

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-22 Thread Neil Doran
Collin, I really dug the photos of your Clem, lots of great ways to camp on that bike! Especially love the bottle behind the seat tube. Would love to hear more about that Lava Beds route, if you could elaborate... On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:16:24 AM UTC-7, Collin A wrote: > > I'm a big fan

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-21 Thread Craig Montgomery
Here's a fun one for you Jason. From the master himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny81vcxTZQk Ian always said what you take for the weekend is the same as what you take around the world. The only difference is the amount of food and water. Of course when he said it we didn't have

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread Drw
Here’s me for 2 nights. Tent in frame bag, food in front, everything else on the back. Also have James’ stem there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread ted
Ahh, slush. Grew up with it, don’t miss it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread Max S
That’s an amazing adventure and write-up / photo journal, Patrick! - Max “tripping vicariously while recounting that Vonnegut (?) thing about 6 seasons, for April is a mess onto itself” in A2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey Jason! Here's my prototype Gus Boots last year: https://deaconpatrick.org/three-days-three-states-three-countries-by-beorn-the-bikepacking-wonder With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 7:41:08 PM UTC-6, J L wrote: > > Hello all, > > I would love to hear how folks have set up a

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread J L
This thread is super helpful everyone. Keep the ideas and experiences coming if you have them. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread Jason Fuller
There is a huge wealth of information available on places like bikepacking.com - there are a lot of fancy setups, but one of the foundation principles of bike packing / touring is that ingenuity and creativity is a great replacement for money. Also "bikepacking" is typically considered to be

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread Collin A
I'm a big fan of the large voluminous bags that allow you to stuff all sorts of things into them, rather than strapping all sorts of bags everywhere; Think BagsxBird and Sackville saddle sacks. That being said, I find that having one or two accessory bags strapped to the handlebars help with

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread Curtis McKenzie
James, Needed to add good friends. But not always. A solo overnight is good for the sole. Curtis On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 9:01 AM James / Analog Cycles wrote: > Should have added: Low gears for exploring, wide tires for taking the > road less traveled, fenders if it's gross out, good tool

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread James / Analog Cycles
Should have added: Low gears for exploring, wide tires for taking the road less traveled, fenders if it's gross out, good tool kit, good first aid kit. On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 12:00:19 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles wrote: > > I find it's pretty easy (ok really easy) to overpack

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread Ginz
For an over-nighter, I usually do two rear panniers and something in the front -- usually a basket or I strap a something to the bars. It's nice to have more capacity than you need because you don't have to be so fussy with packing. Throw stuff in the bike and go! If packing is too tedious

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread James / Analog Cycles
I find it's pretty easy (ok really easy) to overpack panniers. I like a Carradice camper sized saddle bag, 3 water bottles cages, one of which can handle a 48oz nalgene if it's dry out or I won't be camping near a creek, and a basket up front with a decent sized roll top bag. Plenty of space

Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Aren't the bikepacker-type of bags meant to make riding easier in bush, and also to save a wee bit of weight for those who like minimalist camping? Just curious; I agree that, if these aren't the reasons, I can't see why you'd forgo racks and panniers. Racks and panniers are certainly better for

[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

2020-04-20 Thread Pat Smith
I'm a big fan of the traditional 2 pannier setup. All these special bikepacking bags seem more hassle than they are worth. Get a decent rack, like a Blackburn Grid (or something nicer if you're feeling fancy) and a pair of Ortlieb backrollers and you're good to go for a night or two. The