some bike shops sell bikes, others live them
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:35:14 PM UTC-6, William wrote:
Jim Thill knows, this ain't rocket surgery
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:34:05 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
Cyclery wrote:
I don't use tools. I clamp the frame in the stand,
Jim might be able to more acurately chime in on this, but after about a
dozen years in the shops, I think its the other way around. Shops make
money on partsand labor. At least for me, standard markup on a complete
bike was in the 30-35% range. The markup on parts was 100% and labor was
just
I can certainly envision several reasons why your LBS told you that.
It could be that the shop employee was inexperienced and doesn't know much
about older bikes.
Or it could be that the shop doesn't want the liability associated with
installing parts that are, technically speaking,
Cold setting a steel frame is very simple and easy. A frame builder taught
me how to do it in just minutes, and to perfection :)
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Jim, based on my experience, you are right on the money. When I got out to
Colorado and wanted someone to just look over my 1971 Schwinn SS, no one in
boulder would even touch it, and only one shop in Denver would. That
particular shop (CycleAnalyst) had an experienced mechanic that did a
I had some shops tell me I had to do it and some tell me I didn't. Then I
just tried it after all the hubub and my frame was slightly wider than 126.
I didn't really have to pull it apart much at all so I just went with it.
The must-cold-set folks lose a little credibility with all the steel
Garth,
you can't set up a teaser like that and not offer some knowledge to the
rest of us, who have just been stretching and sliding wheelsets in for all
these years...and some photos too!
Happy Snowy Day in Loveland, CO...
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:59:05 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
Remember RB1s were spaced 128mm when they came with a 126mm 7 speed rear
end or a 130mm 8 speed rear end.
Remember also that the first Shimano 130mm rear hubs had a cone shaped left
lock nut that would allow you to pull the rear wheel in, which would pull
your frame out to 130 for you.
On
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:59:05 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
Cold setting a steel frame is very simple and easy. A frame builder
taught me how to do it in just minutes, and to perfection :)
I've had hi-ten and 531 frames cold set, how about 753 or 853 ?
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Hey Jim just to be clear I'm not slamming bike stores. And regarding where
they make their dough yes just like automotive outfits its the parts and
labor where they make their money. I've never run a bike store and can only
imagine the number of idiotic questions plus resistance to spending
I don't have any photos .. lol !!! The frames I did it on were 531 ST,
Columbus SLX and an 83 Stumpjumper. The builder showed me how to do it,
without tools. He showed me outside his rural shop, in the grass of all
places !!! I asked him where his tools were , he siad he didn't need any
I don't use tools. I clamp the frame in the stand, grab the rear triangle with
both hands, and give it a good snort. Then I measure spacing and centered-ness
and correct as needed. Sorry to anybody who was expecting more sophistication!
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Jim Thill knows, this ain't rocket surgery
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:34:05 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
Cyclery wrote:
I don't use tools. I clamp the frame in the stand, grab the rear triangle
with both hands, and give it a good snort. Then I measure spacing and
centered-ness and
Hi Jim,
Thanks, I asked my LBS and they figured it couldn't be done. I'd heard of
cold-setting which didn't appeal to me as it sounds tricky. I plan on
purchasing an old 1985 Trek which I believe the routing should work O.K.
Building up a bike for club rides.
Hugh
Sunland, Ca
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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
I asked my LBS and they figured it couldn't be done.
Wow, I'm all for supporting one's LBS, but it's too bad they have such
limited knowledge.
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I'm sorry to say my experience with many bike stores here in Southern
California has been that they are devoted to selling new race bikes,
that's where the $$ is in their business plan. I have found some local coop
type institutions around rehabilitating old bikes, tho they can be
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