[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-06-02 Thread Neil
Yep, a big fan of both methods here. On the daily, I get tons of utility out of my Acorn transverse saddle bag, the biggest one they make. I have a matching Acorn tall boxy rando bag in front, and between the two I can lug plenty. That's my go-to setup for S24O, and can even bring my Tarptent

Re: [RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-06-02 Thread Chris Chen
I've never had that problem with the nitto large rear rack and the big saddlesack, with a toplight brake; But I can see how a bag could obscure a rack mounted light. cc Fendertown, OR On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Tom M tommil...@me.com wrote: I've used the Arkel Randonneur rack (

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-06-02 Thread Don Funke
Hyalite equipment http://hyaliteequipment.com makes waterproof panniers that fit both sizes of rack tubing. I agree that saddlebags look great, but also nothing is as easy as taking panniers on and off. Now is just need a really fancy rear rack instead of just my old aluminum one. On Tuesday,

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-06-02 Thread Ginz
I don't like to carry panniers unless they are needed for the load. Saddlebags are less cumbersome and are better on trails I ride before doing my shopping. Less rattling, less bumping into things. I also do not like having only one heavy pannier. However, I ride very small frames and

Re: [RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
I have used the Carradice SQR, which clamps to the seat post, for many years and have them on both my Saluki Trek. I have both a Barley and a rarely used LF attached to a pair of the small metal frames that pops into the seat post. As far as I can tell the SQR can be used with any saddle

Re: [RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-28 Thread Patrick Moore
That's a better design than the one I bought, which is supported only by a clamp about the seatpost. Still, for temporary and occasional use (on the Fargo) and at under $50, it's OK, and it does go on and off very quickly. The saleswoman at Fat Tire suggested a design similar to yours -- perhaps

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
I love the look and the idea of saddlebags, and I've owned a half dozen or so over the past 20 years. I honestly think that my affection goes back to the notion of have a transverse bag behind a horse's saddle, seen on old western TV shows of my youth. Doesn't matter--I like the idea. That

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Will
Like most here, I like the look of saddlebags. There are two con issues for me with them: 1) weight is high on the frame. 2) they are really inconvenient to attach/detach 3) I'm not gonna leave a $200 bag on a bike. Panniers are simply easier. 1) They attach/detach in seconds. 2) They

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Ron Mc
no bike is prettier than a rando setup with fenders and no rear rack. But nothing is more practical for utility errands than a rack with panniers. On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 5:06:57 AM UTC-5, Will wrote: Like most here, I like the look of saddlebags. There are two con issues for me

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch
How about both? On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:44:50 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Beth H
I mostly just use a transverse saddlebag. I have three bikes and four saddlebags so swapping around is easy. Saddlebags keep everything simple and require me to think about how much I really need to take on my bike. Most of the time a Nelson LF lives on my city bike.

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Lynne Fitz
I've got a Barley saddlebag on my Sweetpea. (It used to live on the Riv, until the purpose-built Sweetpea entered the scene). It works for brevets. It even works for a one-way ride to Eugene (200k), in nice weather; I can carry a set of off-bike clothes to wear the next day on the train trip

Re: [RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Patrick Moore
So *cute!* Does my little eye spy a Teddy Bear? Seriously and non-sexistically: a very nice bike. Is that a Midge? One complaint: man, those pumps just don't look as good on frames as your traditional Silca/Zefal/PB/Blackburns, and from my own experience with them, they don't work any better

Re: [RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Segwaying from this thread: has anyone used a seatpost clamp-on rack? My '03 Curt grocery carrier is spending a month at Chauncey's nursing home, and I am left with the Fargo (Pica and a clamp on rack rated for 10 kg) and Reg or Beryl or Campari musettes (by Velo Retro, highly recommended). I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Bryan
I was a panniers guy for years. I hesitated for a long time before buying a Saddlesack because I was afraid of the convenience issue, and I didn't want to leave an expensive bag on the bike when commuting. In reality, it takes me about an extra 5 seconds to attach/detach my large Saddlesack

Re: [RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Tom M
I've used the Arkel Randonneur rack (http://www.arkel-od.com/en/arkel-randonneur-rack.html) with their Tailrider Trunk Bag, both of which work as advertised. Not sure how much weight you'd want to put in it, but I've used it to carry work clothes, less shoes, during some commutes. As someone

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Michael Hechmer
Patrick, I starting using saddle bags - Carradice Barley most days Nelson when needed during my 13 years as a long haul commuter. I used and continue to use the Carradice SQR system. For just a minimal amount of metal it provides a high degree of stability and absolutely the fastest on and

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ortlieb Panniers for me. Mostly due to their easy on and easy off system. I love the romance of a well used saddle bag but it doesn't fit my lifestyle at this time. However, I learned a long time ago to never say never. On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:44:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I

[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread dougP
Patrick: Panniers for the versatility ease of on'n'off the bike. I've never tried one of Rivs ginormous versions but 2 big Ortleibs hold a LOT of stuff. I've used a few smaller saddle bags for day rides such, and they are nice for that because you don't bend over to dig around in them. And