Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread René Sterental
One last detail. I did that conversion on my Hunqapillar but the wide chain stays for the extra clearance for wider tires forced me to go to a wider BB as the 40 new middle ring was almost touching the outside of the chain stay.  Ended up going to a wider 113mm BB and a 24/38/bash guard, but

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread Jayme Frye
So cool that this topic has come up. I just spec'd 40/26 with 12-23 9 speed cassette for my new Rawland Stag build. I've never used this combo before but came to this decision based on Grant's comments and some soul searching. I really monitored what gearing I regularly use on the same route

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread BenG
Couple years ago i pulled the outer ring off my XD2 triple and put on a guard, leaving the 36-24 middle and inner rings as-is. The 36 was plenty high for me with 11 cog on 8spd cassette, and I could get to all the combos. New Hillborne runs guarded 40-26 with 12-34 8spd, and that's great,

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Ben, Your comment about spindle length is interesting. My LBS went with the 113 specified by Sugino and I have no problem shifting to the smaller ring. It does sometimes take me 2 tries to get into the big one though. My understanding is that going up is just a harder shift, but now I wonder

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread Patrick Moore
My Sam came with a 113 and the XD2 triple, and with an LX fd it all worked perfectly. When I transferred the bb, crankset, and fd to the wider stayed Fargo, it continued to work perfectly (well, except for sucking the chain when the chain was dirty, but throw was never a problem). I now use the

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Not a problem, just something which requires a bit of attention. FD is Shimano Tiagra. On Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:13:03 AM UTC+3, Patrick Moore wrote: My Sam came with a 113 and the XD2 triple, and with an LX fd it all worked perfectly. When I transferred the bb, crankset, and fd to the

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-20 Thread bobish
Jay, Don't get me wrong. Most of my bikes have come to me used or set up a certain way and I'm too cheap/lazy to change out the cranks. A 45 middle is a bit high but it's on garage find trek that came to me with a half step plus granny set up and I'm just dealing with it for now. If I were

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-20 Thread Matt Beebe
Definitely do it.Setting the limit screw works just fine, and you can get used to any nuances it introduces to shifting. I have been using the Riv bash guard crank on all my bikes for years now and love it.For a while it was just the quickbeam crank and I would just run the stock

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-20 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Jay, Yes, you can just take off the outer ring. The chain ring bolts will probably need to be changed to single, or you can use spacers (i.e., washers). http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed.html#stackbolts It looks like the way Max did it on his Gunnar:

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-20 Thread Ginz
Thanks for the input. I guess I spend most of my time on the inner cogs anyway. I could probably get by with even a 26/40 with a 13-28 on my everyday bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-20 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Thank you everyone for all the input. I will definitely pick up a 40 tooth ring when I am in the US next month. Maybe the bash guard too. Jay On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:43:46 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote: Thanks for the input. I guess I spend most of my time on the inner cogs anyway. I could

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Yes (assuming your Sugino triple is 110/74 BCD, which the XD2 from Riv is) -- you can change out the middle ring for a 40 and replace the outer (big) chainring with a guard. If you're just trying it out, change the middle with the 40. After riding/testing, if the gearing is suitable for you,

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Ginz
Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while in either chainring? Does moving the crank's chainline outboard a little bit help in that regard? Or, is that not necessary? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I assumed I would leave the chain line alone. WIth this setup I would be in the middle ring most of the time. On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:43:26 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote: Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while in either chainring? Does moving the crank's

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Dan McNamara
I created a wide low out of a triple XD2 for my wife's Betty Foy. Actually I went 42/28 as the 9-speed cassette is a 12-34. No problems hitting all 9 cogs. Left the chainline where I would for a triple figuring that she wold be on the large ring 90% of the time. Dan -Marin On Wed, Jun 19, 2013

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Minh
yeah, the Sugino double with the chain-guard is really just a sugino triple. so swapping out the big ring for a guard and the inner for a 26 would work. Can i ask what you have on your triple now? i have a bashguard-40-34 setup, and find the 34 is plenty low for me with my freewheel (ird

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
My current setup is basically MTB gearing - 26-36-46 in front and a 9 speed 11-34 cassette. I hardly ever use the granny because it's pretty flat where I live. But I do use it when I hit the hills loaded. Most of the time I am in the middle or big ring and smaller cogs. The wide-low concept

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Edwin W
I have the 40/26, with 11-32 8 speed in back. I use the bike for commuting and occasionally have a kid on the back. I don't have a front derailer yet, but if I ever use the granny (haven't yet), I might consider a front derailer. I reach all 8 rear cogs with no problems, friction bar end

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread reynoldslugs
The set up works fine. Here are pictures of a Gunnar CX/commuter with 40-26: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157628055130729/ Cassette is 9-speed 11-36. It works fine. I use only the upper or lower 7 cogs, depending on which chainring I'm in. Max -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Michael Hechmer
It's just as easy to get infatuated with low gears you never or rarely use as it is with hi gears. I use a 44/30 with an 11-28 in the rolling countryside of Vt. on an unloaded Ram. It works great for me. This gives me all the convenience of a double with all but 1 low gear of a triple.

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread bobish
I like where this thread is headed... I've been doing something similar on all my bikes. Basically, any bike that already came with a triple, I ride the middle ring 90% of the time and use the small ring for steep hills. The large could be exchanged for a bash guard but I don't bother. So

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Perry, You must be a lot stronger than I am. I did most of the Green Mtn. Loop a couple years ago when I 1st got the Sam. 4-5 days and packing gear for summer camping. Great experience but I was sure glad I had those low gears. Not too much use for the middle ring on that trip - it was a lot

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Is it possible to just leave the outer ring off altogether? Maybe using spacers of some kind? On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC+3, reynoldslugs wrote: The set up works fine. Here are pictures of a Gunnar CX/commuter with 40-26:

[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Nice bike. I love the dice. On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC+3, reynoldslugs wrote: The set up works fine. Here are pictures of a Gunnar CX/commuter with 40-26: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157628055130729/ Cassette is 9-speed 11-36. It works fine. I use