Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-30 Thread Todd G.
I’m always adjusting or swapping stuff on a new bike until I get everything right where I want it. Sometimes it happens quickly, other times it takes a month, 2 months etc to get everything dialed in. I suppose it also depends on how much I’m riding and the particular use for the build on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-24 Thread Ben Mihovk
Doug, Yes, I've seen the pack job! I've watched the video of Mark assembling a Homer maybe fifteen times now (love the video and the music). Good advice on riding for a while before tinkering. I'll definitely go that way. Ben On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 12:28:45 PM UTC-5 dougP wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-24 Thread dougP
Ben: You've probably seen photos on this forum of the epic packing job that Rivendell does. When I got my Atlantis, I was able to ride it within an hour of delivery, and I think the saddle & the pedals were the only things I had to install. Like you, I went with their suggestion on parts &

Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-24 Thread Ben Mihovk
Got shipping notification for my Atlantis yesterday! I'm beyond excited. I'll post a pic when it gets here...I'd do a full list of components now, but honestly I went with what Vince picked out and my only input was that I didn't need a saddle, I wanted the front of the Choco bar taped up, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Either that or it shows that I'm dyslexic. I think I am a bit dyslexic: do very well with words and concepts, but visual images and arrangements confuse me. Patrick "which left, the right left or the left left?" Moore, who had to transcribe Descarte's *Geometry* and Newton's *Principia* into

Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-16 Thread Jason Fuller
Patrick, just the fact you had to correct the typo of which Dura Ace RD you were referring to, lest you suffer the embarrassment of referencing a non-existent variant, illustrates your point very well I think. :D :D ;) ;) On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 6:37 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > "7401" and

Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-16 Thread Patrick Moore
"7401" and not "7410." On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:34 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > ...The 7410 shifts to the 42/25 *sometimes* and seems to work if you > don't screw down the B screw. But on the 7401 there *is* no B screw. So I > filed the stop on the Paragon hanger, and tomorrow will consider

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-16 Thread Jason Fuller
I'm a big-time tinkerer. I also agonize every component and mess around with different setups and possibilities. I like bikes as machines as much as I like riding them (and they led me to my career as a machine designer) and that's a big part of the hobby for me. I also love a well-used,

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread 'WilletM' via RBW Owners Bunch
Having just finished my first Rivendell project earlier this summer (a Protovelo/Bombadil), and after completing it ONLY after 4-5 months of (happily) sweating every nut and bolt and fitting every part to the frame one after another to see how the fit and function was affected by the mixed

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Joel
I buy frames and agonize every part. I scan eBay for NOS components, I buy nitto handlebars, seatpost, stem. I don’t change much but I so tinker with bar height, angle, seat position. Once I get it right I leave it. Have fun, this will be your first of many. On Tuesday, September 15,

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Ben Mihovk
Hey Eric! Thanks for the reply. I'm thinking about a different seat post before my bike even ships from Rivendell :) My weight is really close to the recommended weight for the S83. We talked about my weight and I'm assuming that Vince would have recommended the S83 instead of whatever the

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread EricP
Gotta do something to make it "mine". On the Clem have swapped the seatpost, binder bolt, nut and rear shifter. The first two because of my weight. The latter because I wanted to try the inside bar "reverse" shifter idea that's been mentioned over the last couple years. Had a spare front

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Scott G.
Engineers speak of "creeping elegance", in bike terms, if you are ever foolish enough to buy a built bike. A Pukka Bob, will have replaced 87% of parts within 16 months of purchase. On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 3:35:59 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote: > I bought my Atlantis in 2003 & had

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread dougP
I bought my Atlantis in 2003 & had Rivendell set it up in their standard touring spec. It met my needs for tours but inevitably I just HAD to mess with it. It's just too tempting. Since then, I've changed brakes a couple of times, gone from drops to upright bars, smaller chainrings, wider

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Brian Campbell
I bought both of my Riv's(AHH & Legolas) as frames only. I like swapping things around and trying different configurations. I have the Legolas dialed in pretty much and am now on to finishing a stem/brake lever/fender adjustment on the AHH which will have it set for a while. That said the AHH

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Ben Mihovk
Steve, I can only speak for myself...but I would not be bored by reading about changes you (or others) have made to their bikes. On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 10:30:42 AM UTC-5 Steve Cole wrote: > Ben, > > I'm an inveterate tinkerer. That said, I won't bore you are anyone with > the

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Steve Cole
Ben, I'm an inveterate tinkerer. That said, I won't bore you are anyone with the details of the changes I've made to my Rivendell bikes, with one exception. I traded out the brakes for Paul brakes. I found the Shimano brakes too squishy for me. I want to know that the bike is stopping when

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Dorothy C
“Stare at components and accessories I’d like to try” That’s pretty much why I have ended up with four Rivendells - Appaloosa, Cheviot, Roadini, Clem L :) On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 7:36:13 AM UTC-7 Lefebeaver wrote: > I started building my Atlantis a bit under two years ago; other than

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Lefebeaver
I started building my Atlantis a bit under two years ago; other than wheels (new, fm Rich) I started with used parts and gradually have been upgrading as I go. I've gone through 3 different front racks, different tire sizes and added fenders; eventually bought dyno lights. I recently decided it

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Surlyprof
My Hillborne came with Albatross bars, Paul levers (which I love) and Rich wheels. However, I swapped the handlebars out a set of Albastache with TRP levers and Brooks tape for a little more aggressive position. I still have the Albatross set up in case I want to ride more upright later in

[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

2020-09-15 Thread Marc Irwin
It ain't brokeI gotta fix it! On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 8:50:51 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote: > As I wait for my first Rivendell (sort of) patiently, I can't help but > prowl their website and this group and stare at components and accessories > that I think I'd like to try.