[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-09 Thread William
It was a last minute decision, but I'm still going to run the Hilsen for the SFR 300k tomorrow. Maybe I can get the scratch together to build a 700c dynamo wheel and have the BMC ready for the 400 next month. On Monday, March 5, 2012 7:11:11 PM UTC-8, RoadieRyan wrote: > > I've stumbled acros

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Fantastic service. Wow. And here's an illustration of how the frame can "float" between your contact points. Based on frame angles, bikes with the same tube lengths can fit very differently, and bikes with very different tube lengths can fit the same. The bizarro-world of non-intuitive relationship

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Mike
On Mar 8, 9:01 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" wrote: > Oh, you sold the QB. Just not putting enough miles on it? Now what will I > borrow this summer??? :-) Don't worry, I've got you covered. I still have my LHT, Hilsen, CC and Bryant randonneur. As for measuring bikes, I wish it could be standard

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread William
http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/stack.html stack = height of top of the headtube above the center of the BB Reach = horizontal distance between the center of the BB and the center of the headtube at the top On Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:56:37 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 17:10 -0800, Bill M. wrote: > Sticking to c-c or c-t seat tube measurement only works in a level top > tube world. Reach and Stack are probably better measurements to use > than seat tube and top tube. What are "reach" and "stack"? -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Bill M.
Sticking to c-c or c-t seat tube measurement only works in a level top tube world. Reach and Stack are probably better measurements to use than seat tube and top tube. Bill On Mar 8, 2:58 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" wrote: > The lack of consistency in frame measurement really bugs me. I wish

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread William
size is in the eye of the beholder. Folks don't rant that a Medium at Banana Republic and a Medium at Old Navy fit differently (OK, perhaps they do). Seriously though, Grant will tell you it all comes down to getting your three contact spots in the right places. Feet, tuckus, hands. Where

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
The lack of consistency in frame measurement really bugs me. I wish the industry would stick to one way (center to center preferred) and be done with it. Posting the actual as well as theoretical is even better. I know, I know, I said consistency and bicycle in the same rant, sorry... On Thur

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Philip Williamson
I measure bikes to the top of the top tube at the seat tube junction, too. Not to the top of the seat tube collar. That's definitely good to know about the BMC bikes. Philip On Mar 8, 1:12 pm, William wrote: > FWIW, if Mike had handed me these bikes, and told me to resell them, I > would call m

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread William
FWIW, if Mike had handed me these bikes, and told me to resell them, I would call my '59' a 58. It is 58cm from the center of the bottom bracket to the top of the top tube along the seat tube. My '59' measures 59cm from the center of the bottom bracket to the tippy top of the seat tube along

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Oh, you sold the QB. Just not putting enough miles on it? Now what will I borrow this summer??? :-) As for the BMC bikes, I wish they were built in 2cm increments. I'm slightly between sizes, too. Yeah I know, what's the big deal w/ 1cm, right, but I'm a fussy one... On Thursday, March 8, 2012

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Mike
William, congrats on the new bike. Yeah, those frames look great. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, I'm in-between sizes otherwise I might be considering one of their frames to take the spot vacated by the sale of my Quickbeam. They seem to be designed well. Looks like right now you can get brak

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-07 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Got it, I was poking fun at the acronym being the one for a mental health provider near me :-) On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 1:22:12 PM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > > on 3/5/12 10:01 PM, cyclotourist at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Behavior Medical Center? :-) > > > > http://www.llu.edu/l

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-07 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/5/12 10:01 PM, cyclotourist at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > Behavior Medical Center? :-) > > http://www.llu.edu/llubmc/about.html Black Mountain Cycles - Pt. Reyes Bike shop. Wholehearted endorsement. Mike is a great guy and runs a good shop. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-07 Thread William
I did my hilly commute through the east bay hills (~35 miles, ~2500ft of climbing). Ride report: PURE WIN On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:50:00 AM UTC-8, RonLau wrote: > > For those who does not live in Bay Area. Mike's shop couch has been > THE hot topic within SF Randonneur group. One of our m

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-06 Thread RonLau
For those who does not live in Bay Area. Mike's shop couch has been THE hot topic within SF Randonneur group. One of our member has been known to spend hours on that couch. I was told he rode 40 miles from SF just to sit on it. If you ever come here and want to ride, that will be good place to

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread cyclotourist
You sir, are truly a scholar and a gentleman. :-) On 3/5/12, William wrote: > I posted several additional numbers and an on-the-ground photo, just for you > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/6812058066/in/photostream > > > > On Monday, March 5, 2012 9:59:58 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.co

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread William
I posted several additional numbers and an on-the-ground photo, just for you http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/6812058066/in/photostream On Monday, March 5, 2012 9:59:58 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Got it, thanks! Really diggin' the road bike. 59 might be within 5mm > of a

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread cyclotourist
Behavior Medical Center? :-) http://www.llu.edu/llubmc/about.html On 3/5/12, Esteban wrote: > >> >> David - you gotta spend some time on the couch at BMC. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread cyclotourist
Got it, thanks! Really diggin' the road bike. 59 might be within 5mm of a perfect fit! On 3/5/12, William wrote: > Scroll down to the bottom for the geometry chart > > http://blackmountaincycles.blogspot.com/p/black-mountain-cycles-frames.html > > On Monday, March 5, 2012 8:42:48 PM UTC-8, cyclot

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread William
Scroll down to the bottom for the geometry chart http://blackmountaincycles.blogspot.com/p/black-mountain-cycles-frames.html On Monday, March 5, 2012 8:42:48 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > That might just be the bike I'm looking for! I mentioned this in > another thread a couple weeks a

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread Esteban
> > David - you gotta spend some time on the couch at BMC. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CU1v5WAborEJ. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread cyclotourist
That might just be the bike I'm looking for! I mentioned this in another thread a couple weeks ago... basically a Taiwanese tigged Roadeo w/ threadless steerer, 430mm stays... Wish his site listed some more info, it's kinda' paltry. The monsterX is pretty nice, too! On 3/5/12, RoadieRyan wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread RoadieRyan
I've stumbled across Mikes blog before and loved those Orange Road bikes looks like a lovely build- enjoy! On Mar 5, 11:01 am, William wrote: > Thanks to Rivendell, my entire stable of bikes got turned over in the last > few years.  That process started in 2009.  The last remaining bike I had > f

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread Addison Wilhite
I was particularly impressed with the Desalvo "dirt road" bike at NAHBS. Not a bad price for that caliber of work either. Best, A On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Peter Pesce wrote: > Very nice! > > It is indeed rare to find a "road" frame that will take 32's or even 33.3 > JB's. > I was looki

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread Peter Pesce
Very nice! It is indeed rare to find a "road" frame that will take 32's or even 33.3 JB's. I was looking for such a thing myself and the Soma Stanyan seemed like the best option. But once you're spending $700 you may as well spend $1k, and then... well, you know how that goes! -Pete in CT > >

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-05 Thread Ryan Ray
If there was a 64cm in either style (preferably the cross frame) I would order one today. - Ryan On Monday, March 5, 2012 11:01:28 AM UTC-8, William wrote: > > Thanks to Rivendell, my entire stable of bikes got turned over in the last > few years. That process started in 2009. The last rem