[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread Garth
FWIW ... the Bombadil won't take a 65mm tire. It's not intended to. Fork clearance is about 64mm, the rear is about the same. This is tube to tube, but you gotta leave some clearance room, hence it's spec'd at 2.3" , or 58.4mm for tire clearance. Actual tire width of course, and this varies a lot

Re: [RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Will post photos shortly. Some work to be done on it: swap out 8/9/10 sp freehub body for 7 sp and redish; overhaul rear hub which squeaks; replace 10* stem with upjutter. On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 6:36 PM, EricP wrote: > Glad you like it so far.  Would like to see photos, if you wouldn't > mind. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The disks are BB7 mountains, far, far better than the BB7 roads I have on the Monocog. They work very well with the very comfortable Cane Creen V brake levers. I don't know the Vaya. As far as the reason for dropping everything to buy a Fargo, it was learning (1) that it had a lower bb and shorter

[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread Mike
I have a feeling the Fargo may be taking much much fatter tires in the future. Apparently it's also going to be suspension corrected. Seemed pretty nice just the way it was. I kind of wish they made a canti version of it... The QBP product I've really been drawn to lately has been the 60cm LHT for

[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread EricP
Glad you like it so far. Would like to see photos, if you wouldn't mind. Part of this whole discussion is going to be made moot, as the Fargo is undergoing a change that some will find significant. Although I'm not positive on all the details, it will supposedly be less a touring bike. As to th

[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread RoadieRyan
How do you like the Disc brakes? Any consideration of the more Roadish Salsa Vaya over the more MTBish Fargo? if so what was the deciding factor(s) max tire size- terrain to be ridden- other? Just curious On Sep 11, 1:15 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I just built up the Fargo (65 mm Big Apples, N

Re: [RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks for this at-length summary; I look forward to the comparison with the Bombadil. One quality that the Fargo has that the Rivs, AFAIK, don't have, is huge room for 65s plus fenders plus mud. I am happy with the Fargo; one reason -- among many -- is that it is a relatively cheap bike that both

[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread Montclair BobbyB
As a former (but very satisfied) Fargo owner, I hope to give a pretty fair comparison in a few weeks, after I get my Bombadil rolling. In the mean time as Eric said, the Fargo is very confidence-inspiring on downhills... It was the first bike I felt comfortable just letting go of and bombing hills

Re: [RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-12 Thread Eric Daume
Not really. The Fargo has quite a bit more fork rake (50-55mm vs. 38 to 46 for a typical 29er), with a slacker head angle (70* to 71* vs 71* to 73*). Also, it has more bottom bracket drop and the chainstays are on the long side. And of course, the top tube and head tube are kind of whacky, since it

[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-11 Thread Johnny Alien
> I wonder if the Fargo is really like a standard modern mountain bike: > how so? The fork is not suspension corrected. It feels like a road > bike -- that is why I asked my question. The geometry seems to mirror what s found on modern MTB's. (Minus the suspension of course). -- You received th

Re: [RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: > The geometry on the Salsa is quite a bit different and way more of a > standard modern MTB design while the Riv's are more classic leaning. > > I wonder if the Fargo is really like a standard modern mountain bike: how so? The fork is not susp

[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-11 Thread Johnny Alien
1. They should all be able to take those tires. 2. It seems like they could all be good touring frames although for heavy touring I may pick the Bomba over the Hunq. The Hunq would probably be good though. 3. Again you could probably do this on all three. The geometry on the Salsa is quite a bit

Re: [RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This just in: I took a 22 mile errand ride today including some 5-6 miles of sandy, choppy dirt road, and I am very, very impressed. First, on the outbound leg, a short (4/10 mile) but very steep and winding downhill on which you can hit 40 mph if you don't brake: for the first time I took that hil

[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-11 Thread JoelMatthews
I've not ridden either bike, so am not of much assistance. Salsa in general makes nice stuff. The Fargo appears consistent with their approach. I can say that compared to the looks of the new diagonal Bomb the Salsa is kind of a mutt of bike. Of course most everyone who has had a mutt for a dog

Re: [RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks; I may have already seen that. I just did the inaugural ride on the Fargo; ~ 10 miles home; will do a return 10 miles; mostly road but about four miles of flat, sandy, churned up dirt altogether.. What a wonderful bike! Far better road handling than the Monocog: down a steep, short, winding

[RBW] Re: Fargo versus Bombadil versus Hunq versus Atlantis

2010-09-11 Thread Mike
MTBR forums has a Salsa specific page with lots of info and chatter about the Fargo. No direct comparisons that I've seen with Rivendell bikes but lots of good info and feedback. Check it out. http://forums.mtbr.com/forumdisplay.php?f=119 --mike -- You received this message because you are subs