[RBW] Re: Homer and Sam $100 price difference

2018-11-24 Thread iamkeith
I would assume that it's because of the fillet-brazed 2nd top tube. Same with the MIT Atlantis. That probably adds more than $100 actual cost but, since it's only on the larger frames, it is ammortized over the full range of sizes so that there isn't a "penalty" for taller riders. (But

[RBW] Re: Homer and Sam $100 price difference

2018-11-23 Thread phil k
Not only cost of materials but cost of time may be associated. The Hilsen are relatively the same frame as it was a few years ago, just canti provisions. However, the MIT Homer's have not been around. So there must've been a lot of time associated with Riv designing in the new geometry, then

[RBW] Re: Homer and Sam $100 price difference

2018-11-23 Thread Justin, Oakland
I imagine it has a lot to do with future proofing their prices. Every time they raise prices people grumble and Grant apologizes. If you start pricing things a little higher from the get go you can wait a bit longer to raise prices, maybe even get some more cash flow and be able to float a

[RBW] Re: Homer and Sam $100 price difference

2018-11-23 Thread Joe Bernard
It could be paint if they're duplicating the color Waterford used. In researching touch-up for my Hunqapillar with them this week, I discovered the Hilsen color is a pretty fancy mix. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Homer and Sam $100 price difference

2018-11-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
I wasn't unclear on your curiosity. I was unclear on precisely which question you were asking. Now I think I understand that your two questions: "anyone know why new MIT Homer frames cost $100 more than new MIT Sam frames? Tubing?" Could be rewritten to read: "I assume that the Hilsen

[RBW] Re: Homer and Sam $100 price difference

2018-11-23 Thread Bob Lovejoy
I'll add that time and an associated increased cost could be major factors. From the perspective of "older" to "newer", there is the Appaloosa ($1300) to the Hillborne ($1400) to the latest Hilsen ($1500). I know the Cheviot could be considered an outlier in that logic, and in several ways,