[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-19 Thread William R.
>From time to time my hub does the catch skip when I start pedaling too. I am starting to think that these things are all inherent to the six-pawl design of this hub. If true, that would be a real shame because it is such a nicely designed hub and so easy to take apart. -- You received this m

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Yes. It is possible for a cassette body to have trouble catching when you start pedaling. It's not good when it happens and if it was happening to me I would get it in front of a mechanic and do whatever it takes to make it stop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-19 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks Bill. What I meant by the shifter not solving it was just to rule out it not being fully in gear, due to operator error or, as you wrote, a shifter that won't stay put. I realize the stiff link is the easy check, but I've had those and it doesn't seem like the symptoms match--usually tha

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
" My drive train is still giving me trouble, lately skipping under load or even just after stopping pedaling and restarting--but not ghost shifting. Adjusting the shifter does not solve the problem. It has increased lately, and is becoming problematic enough that I took another bike in to work

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jeremy is right. The root cause is your hub and a clutch derailer is a workaround. Do whatever it takes to put your hub in front of a good mechanic and decide what to do together. I offered a free clutch derailer because you were going to throw $200 plus on a new rear wheel which seemed like

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-19 Thread Jeremy Till
Don't let me get between you and shiny new parts, but this isn't a derailleur issue, it's a hub issue. I've seen draggy freehubs cause similar issues even on bikes with clutched derailleurs. I've serviced a few hubs of this type, and if lubrication doesn't seem to be helping, the seals are u

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-19 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi Bill. Though it perhaps reads otherwise, I wasn't trying to suggest just giving up and living with it! My drive train is still giving me trouble, lately skipping under load or even just after stopping pedaling and restarting--but not ghost shifting. Adjusting the shifter does not solve the p

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-19 Thread William R.
Hey Mark, I hear ya, changing my behaviors and having great rides despite the issue. Still, I can't help seeing what I can do to eliminate it. Complicated or just a different way of making a derailleur? I'm going to find out. Zipping down a hill would be the worse time for the chain to get sucke

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-18 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've had this happen with my Clementine. I think the longer chain might make it more of an issue, too. I did not know about the extra strong double pawl set in the Silver rear hubs. I just don't backpedal on that bike any more. Also switching from the stock Sunrace thumbs to a stem shifter seeme

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-17 Thread William R.
Had a nice early morning 16 mile mixed terrain ride. We had some storms last night in the Hudson valley. The sandy soil along the Croton Acquaduct trail was pretty soggy and fun. Things were noticeably better with the Appaloosa's drive train this morning. Still, on the steepest paved descent I g

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-16 Thread William R.
Well, I got home tonight and went right at it. Took the wheel off. Removed the cassette. Took my two 5mm allens and pulled the freehub body out. Checked all the seals and bearings. Cleaned everything dry and shiny with a nice new cloth. Everything looks good. Found a can of Tri-flow that I forgo

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Not long ago I was bedeviled by a noise coming from the back of my Clementine. It sounded just like a tire rubbing on a fender with each rotation. I checked everything I could think of without actually doing anything too much like work, but I could not isolate it. I even ordered the extra long

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
Leave the chain alone. One link shorter won't make a meaningful difference. best of luck Bill On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 1:48:23 PM UTC-7, William R. wrote: > > Thanks Bill. I am going to check these things. Take it apart and check > over everything again. The seals. Maybe try an oil lig

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-16 Thread William R.
Thanks Bill. I am going to check these things. Take it apart and check over everything again. The seals. Maybe try an oil lighter than the bar chain I've been using. I've got some Boeshield and 3-in-1. Both would be lighter I think. I did take two links out of the chain. I think it improved thin

[RBW] Re: Hub Trub

2016-08-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
Bill On every hub of this type, the cassette wants to spin forward when you coast. The amount it wants to spin forward is larger and larger the stiffer the freewheeling ratchet mechanism is. How stiff is the freewheeling mechanism? Many of us have experienced a whole array of them. Old fre