Around here many of the public trails that folks use for hiking and
skiing would not exist without the considerable efforts of local MTB
trail-building enthusiasts. The trails are generally narrow
singletrack (not ATV roads) and two feet off the trail nature gets
back to normal. I don't see our
Mi dos centavos
When I was a kid, about when I'd outgrown my old Evel Knievel bike, I
rec'd a Huffy 12-speed (actually won off the back of a cereal box).
It was a 'road' bike, but I rode it everywhere. Took me to
school, took me to the store, over to friends' houses, up into the
woods
I'm like you. Every time I get on a bike it takes me back all those
years, like the WayBack Machine.
On Jan 23, 10:11 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
Mi dos centavos
When I was a kid, about when I'd outgrown my old Evel Knievel bike, I
rec'd a Huffy 12-speed (actually won off
On Jan 23, 2010, at 12:59 AM, erik jensen wrote:
On Jan 22, 7:11 pm, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote:
i'm not sure i understand why a land owner would not want
people riding
rivendells on public lands laced with firetrails.
can you explain?
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:48 PM,
Out here in the West, the majority of all land is public. The Gov then
leases it to ranchers, oil rigs, military, miners. What's left over is
split among public users.
Here's a local trail: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4210250414/
Who should I complain about first?
On Sat, Jan
Pavement is a lot more intrusive and destructive than even the most
well-worn path. From the excavation of petroleum to the energy
required for distillation of asphalt, to the modification of the land
through which pavement is lain. Roads may necessary, and may be for
riding on, but to say
Hunkapiller is a surname. Google it and you'll find geneologies and
individuals. But I doubt that's what Grant is referring to.
Here's Grant's piece on naming/paint/graphics:
http://www.rivbike.com/article/bicycle_making/graphics
jim mather
walnut creek ca
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Here's Grant's piece on naming/paint/graphics:
http://www.rivbike.com/article/bicycle_making/graphics
Good stuff! This was interesting:
Brand or model names shouldn't sound like inside jokes thought up
over beer pizza.
I feel like the most perfect name they ever came up with for a bike
was the Bombidil. It just fits the frame so well. I've said it before,
I'm very partial to Rivendell naming their bikes after characters from
Lord of the Rings. Of course the lawyers at New Line Cinema seem to
have put the kibosh
Tangential digressions--an oxymoron! I really need to step away from
the computer and get out on my bike.
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Yes, I guess you're right.
In rhetoric, a tautology is an unnecessary or unessential (and
usually unintentional) repetition of meaning, using different and
dissimilar words that effectively say the same thing twice
You never know what you're gonna be learned here.
On Jan 23, 2:39 pm, Tim
The Mastodon would have been a good name. I'm curious as to the
features of the frame--braze-ons and clearance. I think Grant
mentioned earlier that this bike would be a cross between an Atlantis
and a Bombadil. I'm curious to see what's up with the next batch of
SH. A while back Grant mentioned
I thought I'd seen something about the SH being revised to start
coming w/a double top-tube, but hadn't been able to relocate that
reference.
I'd been thinking about a Bombadil, but a SH w/ a double top-tube
might work for me; but now, this Hunqapillar seems intriguing
definitely want to
On Jan 22, 1:05 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
on 1/21/10 7:07 PM, newenglandbike at matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyway, does Hunqapillar mean mammoth in some language?I'm curious
about the name.
No.
I think it has a great sense of nordic strength. I'm sure Grant
The early road models are just called Rivendell as well. You can always ask. :)
No reason to leave the prancing Ram with his tongue stuck out (again, a
metaphor for Grant vs the cycling establishment?) on the head tube if you don't
like it. Why not have your local ornamental metals shop laser
In a message dated 1/21/2010 11:30:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
brdg...@gmail.com writes:
Then I guess that's one less bike on your list. :)
On Jan 21, 7:23 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote:
Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
No, it'll depend on the bike. It may be worth getting just
I really like the Hunqapiller name (it has all the hallmarks of a
great nonce word) and love the headbadge art. Can't wait to see the
bike. I think that the Taiwan-built, upsloping top-tube, lower-cost
models are a wonderful thing. They're great bikes at any price, but
the lower cost makes the
Count me amongst the confused. Hunqapillier? What? A replacement
for the Atlantis? I didn't think the Atlantis needed a replacement.
I don't own one, but if I wanted a classic, straight up touring bike
to head out on a self supported adventure, I can't think of any other
bike I would put ahead
i'm not sure i understand why a land owner would not want people riding
rivendells on public lands laced with firetrails.
can you explain?
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In a message dated 1/22/2010 6:56:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
palin...@his.com writes:
Doesn't this sound like exactly what the AHH was designed for?
I own both and in my opinion, no, it does NOT do it as well as the
Rambouillet. The Rambouillet is faster/ easier over dirt and/or
Sorry everyone, but I don't think that we have to redesign a cheaper
product follows from the dollar / yen exchange rate is
unfavorable. There is a much simpler answer to that issue: shift
production to Waterford. Presumably, Riv isn't struggling with
margins on Waterford-built frames resold at
What are the real differences between Toyo built (or Waterford built) frames
and Taiwanese ones?
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Michael Glaser mgla...@gmail.com wrote:
I really like the Hunqapiller name (it has all the hallmarks of a
great nonce word) and love the headbadge art. Can't wait
acknowledges, while maintaining that the Taiwainese work is still very
good.
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news
What are the real differences
There's an easy solution to what annoys you, and that is to look elsewhere
beside Rivendell for your bikes.
I personally have little interest in many Rivendell models -- the only bikes
that interest me are the road ones (Rodeo), the fixed gears and, perhaps,
the Hunquawhatever for off road, but I
No, that's not necessarily easy. You want to stay with the one you've
loved for a long time. I remember having this discussion with my home builder.
I told him about my neighbor who had just gone through an ugly/nasty
divorce. His response was that every time he had gone through a divorce he
amen, +1, Q.E.D
On Jan 22, 7:45 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
There's an easy solution to what annoys you, and that is to look elsewhere
beside Rivendell for your bikes.
I personally have little interest in many Rivendell models -- the only bikes
that interest me are the road
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 17:00, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps you could explain how Rivendell has drifted away from the
ideals stated below. There is nothing road-ish of off-road-ish about
them. Rivendell has always been a personal expression of velosophy
for Grant which is full
This discussion seems to be turning into a forum on the present focus
of the company. With a lot of values coming into it.
Reminds me of when I was cold shouldered out of some off (paved)
road riding/racing in the mid to late 1980's because I wasn't part of
the initial phenom on Mt. Tam. 2000
I may be talking out of school here, but I think there are four main
differences between the Toyo/Waterford frames and the Taiwanese
frames: design, materials, construction and finish.
First, and perhaps most importantly, the Taiwanese models all have
upsloping top tubes. The upsloping top
You know it seems like these kinds of discussions only happen during the
winter.
;-)
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:34 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
This discussion seems to be turning into a forum on the present focus
of the company. With a lot of values coming into it.
Reminds me of
Since I've been following Rivendell (bought my first in '04), their
catalogs and Readers and website have featured many pictures of people
riding bicycles offroad. That actually goes back to Bstone, come to
think of it... Offroad bicycling has been quietly popular for 100+
years, though it's only
FWIW, my second two customs (the first was a Waterford, circa early 1995,
IIRC) have upsloping top tubes and non-heat treated tubing. #2 is a Joe,
1999 fixed, #3 is a Curt 2003 1X10, now fixed, too. Riv #1 was a customized
Waterford made from tout 753 which, of course, is heat treated (isn't it?)
It makes sense that each of
us like some of those changes and dislike others.
James Black
Exactly. Like. Dislike. Whatever. I just don't share the sense of
betrayal (a bit dramatic I know) that others seem to .
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FYI According to Riv they will be continuing to make the Atlantis. It will
now be made by Waterford.
See http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/181
When we're out of the Japanese Atlantis frames, the future ones will be
made by Wford. The chainstays will be different but just fine, and some
Still, what's a hunquapiller? What does the name come from?
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote:
Still, what's a hunquapiller? What does the name come from?
Sexy caterpillar. Come on folks. Grant loves him the hunky
caterpillars and the contractions. This is not really that hard.
Tarik
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Eric,
Thanks for the question; I'd be glad to explain.
I can only assume that public land owners aren't paying as close
attention as I am.
For me, this process begins with bikers riding across fragile paths.
It is followed by mid night snowmobilers heading to the next bar and
then moves to four
Where do you stand on horses?
No just kidding. Don't answer that.
What I meant was, where do you stand on the alameda whipsnake.
No, wait, nevermind.
Tarik
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:48 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
Eric,
Thanks for the question; I'd be glad to explain.
I can only
AMEN Brother! well said
On Jan 22, 4:45 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
There's an easy solution to what annoys you, and that is to look elsewhere
beside Rivendell for your bikes.
I personally have little interest in many Rivendell models -- the only bikes
that interest me are
I like Hunqahunqaburninlove...might need two top tubes to fit it all!
Rob Markwardt
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I suppose I can definitely see you point given certain environments are
absolutely fragile, and many cyclists are abusive. However, riding here in
the east bay, I ride smooth 35mm tires on fireroads in land that is used as
free-range for cattle. Not exactly a fragile clime, but I agree with you
Wow, that is so awesome. Exciting stuff.
On Jan 20, 9:28 pm, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/187
Hunqapiller news. Awesome artwork!
James Black
Los Angeles, CA
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Off to a good start, nice looking headbadge. I wonder if it will be a
double top tuber?
On Jan 21, 9:58 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, that is so awesome. Exciting stuff.
On Jan 20, 9:28 pm, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/187
What an awesome name!
Head badge art looks great, too, though the right tusk (from the
Mammoth's POV) looks kinda awkward. Maybe it tapers too late? Or I am
expecting it to curve down less? Not sure...
Gernot
On Jan 21, 2:17 pm, jpp paste...@notes.udayton.edu wrote:
Off to a good start, nice
I hope they do a t-shirt with that art.
On Jan 20, 9:28 pm, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/187
Hunqapiller news. Awesome artwork!
James Black
Los Angeles, CA
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paste...@notes.udayton.edu writes:
Off to a good start, nice looking headbadge.
Yea, I agree. Spectacular!
I wonder if it will be a
double top tuber?
God, I hope not.
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Why not have interesting and off the wall names??? It makes the bikes
just that much more unique to me. The artwork for the hunqapiller
looks fabulous and I for one am all for the namejust my 2
centsAnnette
On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Ron MH wrote:
What the heck kind of name is
Yeah I dig the name 'Hunqapillar' too. A quick google search suggests
the closest thing to it is the surname Hunkapiller, but trying to find
the etymology of that name yields nothing. Kind of frustrating,
but I guess that's what makes it such a cool name.
As a huge fan of the Bombadil, FTR I
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Annette Lein alein...@earthlink.netwrote:
Why not have interesting and off the wall names??? It makes the bikes just
that much more unique to me. The artwork for the hunqapiller looks fabulous
and I for one am all for the namejust my 2 centsAnnette
I don't understand why Grant refuses to market a bike that has a color
and a name that is universally appealing. Is universal appeal too much
to ask?
On Jan 21, 7:51 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Annette Lein alein...@earthlink.netwrote:
Why
i have a question. what kind of bike is the hunqapiller going to be?
On Jan 21, 5:02 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote:
What the heck kind of name is Hunqapiller?
This is getting (has gotten) silly.
There was a time when Riv used graceful names for bikes; the Tolkien
references, Bleriot
i have a question. what kind of bike is the hunqapiller going to be?
It's going to be a touring/all-rounder type bike. Apparently a
replacement for the Atlantis.
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I like the artwork as artwork (I still have the Heron poster around
somewhere), but question why one would name a bike after a large,
heavy, ungainly, (presumably) slow moving and extinct animal. It's a
far cry from the graceful, lean and swift Saluki. Is Grant directly
poking at those who
Nah, I think he feels the Mastodon's tusk captures the Riv fork rake just
perfectly...
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Is Grant directlypoking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old
fashioned?
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On Jan 21, 9:05 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
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I don't understand why Grant refuses to market a bike that has a color
and a name that is universally appealing. Is universal appeal too much
to ask?
I don't think there is such a thing as a universally appealing
I don't think there is such a thing as a universally appealing name-
I remember thinking that 'Roadeo' was a pretty innocuous name, but
some people seemed almost angry about it.
I believe that was Jim's point. I do not know Jim but I'm pretty sure
he was being facetious.
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Oops- I see that now. sorry Jim.
On Jan 21, 10:01 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think there is such a thing as a universally appealing name-
I remember thinking that 'Roadeo' was a pretty innocuous name, but
some people seemed almost angry about it.
I believe that was
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 19:01 -0800, Brad Gantt wrote:
I don't think there is such a thing as a universally appealing name-
I remember thinking that 'Roadeo' was a pretty innocuous name, but
some people seemed almost angry about it.
I believe that was Jim's point. I do not know Jim but I'm
On Jan 21, 9:38 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
question why one would name a bike after a large,
heavy, ungainly, (presumably) slow moving and extinct animal.
I'll see your heavy, ungainly mammal, and raise you a rugged, highly
evolved, far-ranging, and spectacular mammal :) It is
Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
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Is Grant directly
poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned?
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Yes, but the Atlantis stock color was the target of much derision. I
liked it.
On Jan 21, 9:12 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 19:01 -0800, Brad Gantt wrote:
I don't think there is such a thing as a universally appealing name-
I remember thinking that
Not too much to ask, but isn't that what all the big bike
manufacturers do??? So, I personally don't need another one :)
On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
I don't understand why Grant refuses to market a bike that has a color
and a name that is
Then I guess that's one less bike on your list. :)
On Jan 21, 7:23 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote:
Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Annette Lein alein...@earthlink.netwrote:
Why not have interesting and off the wall names??? It makes the bikes just
that much more unique to me. The artwork for the hunqapiller looks
Add me to the list of people for whom the reaction to hunqapillar is
huh?.
It just does nothing for me. Even if I knew what it meant I'd get
tired of explaining it to people when they ask. I'm sure this will be
a beautiful bike, like all Rivendells - so why bring it down with a
screwy name?
on 1/21/10 7:07 PM, newenglandbike at matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyway, does Hunqapillar mean mammoth in some language?I'm curious
about the name.
No.
I think it has a great sense of nordic strength. I'm sure Grant will share
the derivation before its release. There's a story
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 17:02, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote:
What the heck kind of name is Hunqapiller?
For once, I immediately liked this name Hunqapiller. That feels weird to type!
I like this a lot better than the imaginary people names used for many
other recent models.
James Black
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I'm leaning positive seeing as the associated animal is a wooly mammoth,
though wooly mammoth is a fine name it its own regard. Anyway, a prime
association for a rivendell mtb/touring offering.
+1 for mammoth tire clearance.
erik
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