[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-12 Thread Egon Conway
Wow, interesting mod. I've added a longer B-Screw to derailers to get a little more spring tension, not the most elegant solution, but no need to take the derailer body apart. I'm interested to hear how it goes if you do take it apart. Good luck. On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 5:05:15 AM UTC-7 J

Re: [RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-06 Thread Martin Alvarez
I've got an old Atlantis w crazy chain slap. I can't look at a stick on the road without the chain slapping around. The gears are always slipping on the rear as well. Drives me nuts. On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 7:16:26 PM UTC-5 KenP wrote: > With the clutch on, shifting the chain is tight

Re: [RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-06 Thread Kenneth Peyton
With the clutch on, shifting the chain is tight moving onto the big front chainring of 52 while the rear is in certain positions, plus, to remove the wheel the clutch needs to be turned off anyhow, so I just left it off. Next ride I'll test it again. The largest practical rear is 28 on my setup.

[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-06 Thread J Schwartz
So according to the drawing , *if* there's a 2nd hole for greater tension , it will be in the Outer Cage Assembly (part 10) ...which would allow the cage tension spring (part 9) to be wound up more. random photo from Park Tool website: [image: der109.jpg] I've heard, but not confirmed, that

[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-06 Thread aeroperf
Just so we know what we're talking about, here is the exploded view. https://si.shimano.com/pdfs/ev/EV-RD-M580-2367.pdf There is a spring that runs the body (2), and a spring that tensions the cage (9). As a Mechanical Engineer, if I had two of these, I'd take one apart just on general

[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-06 Thread J Schwartz
Jim That's a great suggestion ...I didn't even know that was a possibility I'll look into the stronger springs Jason On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-4 Jim M. wrote: > I would suggest replacing the spring with from an XT or XTR. You can get a > new spring for $5 or so. > > When I

[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-06 Thread Jim M.
I would suggest replacing the spring with from an XT or XTR. You can get a new spring for $5 or so. When I had too much slap and occasional thrown chain from an LX (which worked fine otherwise), I switched to an XT derailer and the problems disappeared. I assume it's mostly the chain tension

[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew P
Hi Ken, I'm curious. Why do you leave the clutch de-activated? Are there downsides to using the clutch? Thanks -Matthew On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 4:36:27 PM UTC-7 KenP wrote: > I changed my derailler to one of the newer Shimano shadow; it has a clutch > switch, but I leave said switch off

[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-05 Thread KenP
I changed my derailler to one of the newer Shimano shadow; it has a clutch switch, but I leave said switch off and it still provides more wrap and tension than my older derrailler. It's not rapid rise thouigh. I'm running 30 34 52 in front and 11-28 in back. 9 speed. KenP On Monday, April 5,

[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

2021-04-05 Thread Matthew P
Hey J. I'm interested in this. It sounds like a DIY derailleur clutch. I Google searched that and got some promising hits. If you dive into this, please share. Thanks Trying to stay on task in San Diego, -Matthew On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 5:05:15 AM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote: > Greetings > I have