[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-27 Thread Alex K
Oh boy. I’ve been using the bolt that came with the single-leg Pletscher included in my buildout with a two-legged Pletscher that I bought from my LBS. I’m a front-loader, so I feel pretty confident that I’ll be all right, but this thread has got me thinking! On Monday, August 24, 2020 at

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-27 Thread Alex K
Double Pletscher Installed and loving it. Thanks for the help!!! Pics to follow... On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 10:58:37 AM UTC-7 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote: > I'm a fan of the Pletscher double and use it on my regular and currently > only rider (a beat up old Schwinn Traveler built as

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-26 Thread Mark Roland
No, you were clear. I was agreeing with you. I imagine back then when this was an issue Riv may not have spec'd plate thickness, thinking the factory would know what gauge to use in that application. Or they just used what was handy and ignored specswhoops. On Wednesday, August 26, 2020

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-25 Thread brendonoid
Sorry I wasn't clear. Rivendell had kickstand plate failures with the double leg plescher back when their kickstand plates were much thinner than they are now. I doubt the current plates would have a problem. I just measured and the old plates are 0.9 to 1mm and the new plates are 3mm. Huge

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-25 Thread Mark Roland
Yes, I can understand the mounting bolt or the kickstand legs, but not the plate. At least not the one on my Clem. I guess if the plate is not beefy enough it could be an issue. Definitely want to design it so that if anything, the kickstand itself fails before any deformation of the frame is

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-24 Thread brendonoid
The old kickstand plates pre-2013ish were A LOT thinner than they are now. It didn't shear off because i noticed in time but the double plescher had severely damaged by Sisters MUSA Sam hillborne kickstand plate (bent it badly). It isnt a single time but repeated use with panniers full of stuff

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-24 Thread Mark Roland
I am confused by this. I can't imagine the weight of a kickstand "ripping" a welded kickstand off of any bicycle. Not to mention what is the point of a kickstand plate if it can't handle a kickstand, double or knot. I assume you don't mean weight of the kickstand but maybe fully weighted

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-24 Thread Jason Fuller
Ahhh I wondered why they stopped selling the double leg, thanks for the info! On Monday, 24 August 2020 at 16:59:43 UTC-7 Dave Johnston wrote: > A few years back there reports of the weight of the double kick stand > ripping the Kickstand plate off of Rivendell bicycles, so you should >

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-24 Thread Dave Johnston
A few years back there reports of the weight of the double kick stand ripping the Kickstand plate off of Rivendell bicycles, so you should actually mount it with the long bolt and chainstay sandwich, not the shorty bolt directly to the plate. I suspect part of the problem may have been people

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-20 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I'm a fan of the Pletscher double and use it on my regular and currently only rider (a beat up old Schwinn Traveler built as single speed with 700x38(aka '42mm' Continental Speedrides) and Chocomoose bars)) but one word of caution is that it will limit tire width when unengaged and in the 'up

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-20 Thread Mark Roland
I have the double on my Clem L, which has seen some heavy grocery loads in the back o bike bags--I would guestimate north of 30lbs total. Nothing on the front rack yet (still basketless at the moment.) Recommended. On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 10:16:46 AM UTC-4, Alex K wrote: > > Just got my

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-20 Thread Edwin W
I agree with Eric. I have a double legged Joe A and it works well. AND it has fallen over a bunch of times, too... Uneven ground, uneven weight.. gotta watch out. Best thing when it is loaded is always a tree! Good luck, Edwin On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 9:16:46 AM UTC-5, Alex K wrote: >