Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-27 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
If I recall correctly, all Rivendellian Atlantises are of the “2” variety, since the name was borrowed from a Bridgestone product called Atlantis. Thusly, whether an Atlantis is from Toyo, Waterford or the Taiwanese company, they are all called Atlantis 2. -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-27 Thread Reed Kennedy
Thanks Tom, I appreciate the compliment! I'm planning to add it to a "resources" sticky over on the iBOB list sometime soon. I'm not quite sure how aligned this project is with the Riv philosophy, so I've been relatively quieter about it here. I'm also planning to write a blog post about the

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-27 Thread tc
Reed, I think this deserves the sticky thread treatment, given: - It's a lot of data that (hopefully) will be collected over time - It's a wonderful gift to the community - It would be hard to find, as this thread is entitled "New Roadeo (to me)" Tom > > -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-26 Thread Lum Gim Fong
How does your gadget work and measure tubing thickness without cutting the tube in half? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-26 Thread sameness
I'm pretty sure all the pre-MIT Atlantii sported the #2 livery, owing to the existence of a Bridgestone Atlantis ? As always, I am prepared to be wrong. Jeff "Toyo or No" Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-26 Thread Reed Kennedy
Thanks Tom! Good find, I'm glad to have that spec sheet. Looks like it goes with the earlier Toyo Atlantises, before the Atlantis^2? Of course, the problem now is figuring out which ones those are! I guess it'd be any Atlantis that doesn't have the "2" on the decals? Would love to track one down

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-26 Thread tc
Reed, this is a very cool think you're doing :) I'm not a left coaster, or I'd gladly have you measure them! I did find this Toyo Atlantis build spec, including tubing, on Sheldon's site you might find interesting for comparing your actual results:

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-25 Thread Mark R.
I thought I recognized the hubs on the bike in the background of your other bike for sale ;0) Mark Rosenberg SDCA lets see pics of the whole Roadeo! On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 12:40:05 AM UTC-7, Mike Godwin wrote: > > Ooh, ooh, I got one too! :) Found it on local CL, looking for an

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-25 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Ha! After I typed that, I was thinking, had I bought the Roadeo first, I probably would have bought the others anyway because I would have then wanted to try loaded 42x650b riding!!! Either way, you wind up being a multi-riv owner at some point!! The beauty of it is that RBW makes so many

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-24 Thread Ash
> If I would have known this I would have not bought the first 4 Rivs and > just come up out of the pocket for a Roadeo from the start. > > But then you wouldn't have known that this is _the_ one :) On Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:49:57 UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > 53cm Roadeo > >

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-22 Thread Joe Bernard
I think what you get with a Roadeo in the 55-under sizes is basically a production version of Mark Abele's custom road bikes. He's a light, fast guy and it's but to work for him. I want one! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-22 Thread Lum Gim Fong
True, but tires and wheel size/makes made no diff, in my experience between the bike models. (GB30,42/Compass28,32, 38, 42/Pasela/Swifty/Rumpkin/Marathons). Whole spectrum tried. Alleged fastest and alleged slowest tires made. 650b/700c. Twin Holla’/GB/Pacenti/Synergy/A23/CR18/,

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-22 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Keep in mind that these tubes are OS, so the 8/5/8 will flex similarly to a 9/6/9, and the 6/4.5 would translate roughly to a 7/5/7 in terms of measurable flexing properties. It of course matters more when you are comparing Rivs to vintage standard tubing steels like 531, Columbus SL, Ishiwata

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-22 Thread Lum Gim Fong
What kinda wheels you have on it? The Ram rode the same for me at any weight. Not as good on hills as Roadeo, but good enough and a fantastic, comfy ride. It also has a little more room for fenders and 32mm tires than Roadeo. I love the blue paint, too. If I ever have to repaint the Roadeo I

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Aha. That may explain the difference in your experience. I'm almost 30 lb heavier, and I'm pretty sure that the tubing on my customs is not as thinwall (Chauncey Matthews came by to pick up the '99 Joe Starck frame -- f/f/hs -- for alteration. He lifted it and said, "Huh. Not so light.") But damn,

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-22 Thread Reed Kennedy
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:39 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > As I understand it the Roadeo has significantly thinner tubing than the > Romulus and Ram I owned. Noticeable enough that my one very short ride > around the building at RBW told me I was riding a different, whippier, > snappier bike than what

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-22 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I guess the thinner wall tubing (6/4/6 DT/TT) , shorter chainstays, and hand trimmed HT lugs? The early ones had the trimmed HT lugs, iirc. You can see the points cut off. Not that that would really make any difference, I don't think. >From a Grant interview we know that the Roadeo tubing is:

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-22 Thread Mike Godwin
Ooh, ooh, I got one too! :) Found it on local CL, looking for an Atlantis at the time but this came up for a steal of a price, so who could resist? White with blue accents It too has downtube cable stops rather than shifter bosses. I would prefer shifter bosses, but for a bike in my size and

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-21 Thread Joe Bernard
As I understand it the Roadeo has significantly thinner tubing than the Romulus and Ram I owned. Noticeable enough that my one very short ride around the building at RBW told me I was riding a different, whippier, snappier bike than what I was familiar with. To my mind it was the difference

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-21 Thread Patrick Moore
That's very pretty, and built much as I would build one. You say it's much faster than your Rambouillet. I found my Ram spritely, but not as spritely as my lightest road bike, but then there was a big difference in the wheels -- MA40s with even Parigi Roubaix 29 mm 700C tires are going to be

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-21 Thread Brian Campbell
Nice! Congratulations! On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 6:49:57 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > 53cm Roadeo > > Bought the frame from lister. Built it up. > Usual Rivish component stuff. > Also: > 40cm Nitto M151F bar. > SONdeluxwidebody/Pacenti Brevet/Sapim Race spokes/VO rear Touring hub

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-21 Thread Dave Grossman
Great now I have to lust after another Riv. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-20 Thread Ryan M.
When you order a Roadeo frame you can request downtube bosses be added. I opted not to have them on mine since I knew I would be running index brifters all the time. On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 6:06:08 PM UTC-5, sameness wrote: > > That's a reeeally good looking rig! I can tell you put a

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-20 Thread Don Compton
Some Roadeo's have downtube shifter bosses. My Roadeo has them. On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 4:06:08 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote: > > That's a reeeally good looking rig! I can tell you put a lot of thought > into the build. > > (As an aside, I had no idea that the Roadeo doesn't have DT

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

2018-09-20 Thread sameness
That's a reeeally good looking rig! I can tell you put a lot of thought into the build. (As an aside, I had no idea that the Roadeo doesn't have DT shifter bosses. Guess I never noticed. You'd think of all their frames, this one would?) Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this