Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-03 Thread Leah Peterson
Doug, never. Never ,ever, ever. And yes, I pushed that bike a mile home. Glad it didn’t do this to me on the way down that hill. Scary. > On Mar 3, 2017, at 10:37 AM, dougP wrote: > > Arrrggghhh! You never had a flat with your previous tires? You are pushing > a bike

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-03 Thread dougP
Arrrggghhh! You never had a flat with your previous tires? You are pushing a bike with a FLAT tire that is only a week or 2 old? Case closed. dougP On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 8:06:10 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 03/03/2017 10:51 AM, Tim Gavin wrote: That's a good price. But, I disagree that wire bead Paselas provide 80% of the performance of standard casing Compass tires of the same size. On the suppleness scale (rock hard tires are 0, handmade tubulars are 10), I'd give standard casing Compass

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-03 Thread Ryan Fleming
Well the Kevlar Tourguard ones are CDN 50+ , but I've been very happy with their ruggedness and decent performance. So my take is, the Compass McLure's - meh...Not materially better. On the other hand, the pricey 32mm Extralight Stampede Pass tires on my road bike are superb...but not for the

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-03 Thread Tim Gavin
That's a good price. But, I disagree that wire bead Paselas provide 80% of the performance of standard casing Compass tires of the same size. On the suppleness scale (rock hard tires are 0, handmade tubulars are 10), I'd give standard casing Compass tires a 9 (9.5 for EL casing), and wire bead

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 03/03/2017 09:09 AM, Ryan Fleming wrote: Have to say, I am still a big fan of the Paselas( been using them for about 10 years) , especially for commuting. They are rugged but fine-riding tires. And at $25 each (for the tan sidewall wire bead unbelted 700x32C at Niagra Cycle) they're

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-03 Thread Ryan Fleming
Have to say, I am still a big fan of the Paselas( been using them for about 10 years) , especially for commuting. They are rugged but fine-riding tires. I did buy 2 sets of Compass McLure Passes to replace my Pasela 26 X 1.5 tires for my allrounder and X0-1; the X0-1 is one of my commuters. I

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Bruce
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Thanks for the info.   I still use paselas but will give the gravel kings a try next time new rubber is needed.  I love Pari

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Tim Gavin
Panaracer Gravel Kings are a good choice. They're similar to the lightweight Pari-Moto tires, but with an added puncture protection layer. On the suppleness scale (rock hard tires are 0, handmade tubulars are 10), I'd give them a 7 to 7.5. A good compromise tire. They've supplanted the old

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Leah Peterson
Jon, you're brilliant and you're RIGHT. The tape had shifted, and the room sliced the tube. I also took your suggestion of Panaracer tires and ran with it. I ordered new tires - Panaracer Gravel something or other - the shop owner and I sat and talked about what I wanted in a tire and what

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Learn to fix flats -- it's not hard, and if you carry a spare tube or 2 and fix the puncture proper at home, you can be back on the road in a few minutes -- usually faster than walking to your destination. The longest part is pumping the tire, and even this can be minimized and the effort reduced

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Jon Dukeman
have them check that it wasn't caused by exposed rim that cut the tube and not a puncture from a thorne. Hopefully someone will stop and fix your flat. Let me know if I can help. Jon "FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK " On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Leah Peterson

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Leah Peterson
As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear flat. All worries of offending the LBS have currently gone out the window. I will be swinging by there today asking for new tires. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, RichS wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-01 Thread RichS
I better inspect my Synergies now! Regards, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-01 Thread Jim Bronson
When I was in college I was about 300 give or take, (no judgement please had a good reason) I had a Cannondale M500 mountain bike and I used to ride it off curbs every day, at least 6-7 times a day, maybe more. When I left the sports training facility I would ride down all the stairs also, down

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-01 Thread Jim Bronson
Mine cracked and it was the non-OC. Just a data point. On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 02/28/2017 04:07 PM, LeahFoy wrote: > >> This is all very fascinating. Interesting that Steve has also had the >> Velocity wheels go bad on him. I honestly

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-01 Thread Jim Bronson
That's what mine looked like too. When I told Velocity what I was doing with it, they replaced it with an Atlas. 260-270 lb rider, Randonneuring and urban riding with a big Carradice with lots of stuff in it. On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > I've

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-01 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
It is my opinion that a decent bike shop should have known about this problem and gotten a rim replacement/wheel rebuild for you from Velocity as a matter of course. Whoever wrote your original repair ticket obviously knew something, with the comment "(not sure they even make that rim any

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-01 Thread Fullylugged
velocity replaced mine under warranty. (I sent the old wheel and they laced a new rim onto my hub) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-01 Thread Fullylugged
I have a pair of the Soma Express on my Riv Road and like them a lot. Stated size is 38mm, but they run more like 36. Very smooth. No sand slinging. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread dougP
" I get a kick out of crashing over bumps without rising out of the saddle. There's something amusing about it. You should try it. But maybe not on Velocity rims." A girl's gotta fun, right? Just opt up for a heavy duty touring rim. I have no experience with the manufacturer in question, but

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/28/2017 04:07 PM, LeahFoy wrote: This is all very fascinating. Interesting that Steve has also had the Velocity wheels go bad on him. I honestly had no idea Velocity has a history of problems with the rims or I might have contacted them. I noticed today the front wheel is still the

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread LeahFoy
This is all very fascinating. Interesting that Steve has also had the Velocity wheels go bad on him. I honestly had no idea Velocity has a history of problems with the rims or I might have contacted them. I noticed today the front wheel is still the Velocity I had prior; no cracks, but I'll be

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/28/2017 12:06 PM, Wayne Naha wrote: I thought it unusual that the rim was cracking. Not saying that the rim is defective, but perhaps has been overloaded with all the school supplies. A heavier duty rim may be in order here. Rims are consumable, but the cracking would be a concern

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
I've already mentioned the Velocity Synergies that cracked at the spoke holes. Here's what they look like: But that's not the only rim I've had that's cracked. Back in the day I had MA40s on my Spectrum. They cracked and the shop gave me a big song and dance that I was the only person in

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/28/2017 01:49 PM, Wayne Naha wrote: If Velocity is acknowledging a problem with the Synergy rims cracking, then it seems settled that this is not normal or expected wear. Too bad Leah did not kn ow about this before paying for a new wheel. Otherwise, I think a free replacement rim,

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Wayne Naha
If Velocity is acknowledging a problem with the Synergy rims cracking, then it seems settled that this is not normal or expected wear. Too bad Leah did not kn ow about this before paying for a new wheel. Otherwise, I think a free replacement rim, including new spokes, and the labor for lacing

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Ray Varella
If you go back and look at the original pics that Leah posted, you can see brake wear at the spokes and see the eyelets pulling away from the rim. I don't know how much wear that rim has but if the sidewalls are worn enough to cause the sidewalls to bulge at the spoke holes then it's a pretty

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Ryan Fleming
Garth, it's not beyond the pale of possibility either. I did have cracks on a 26" pair of Araya RM14's I think which was a bit disconcerting , but that's the only rim I can recall having an issue with.They were very light, probably too light for me and pounding around are city with its some

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Garth
Ryan, rims cracking like that is not "normal" by any means. Add to this the fact the Velocity acknowledges the Synergies cracking and offers replacements and why the are no longer made. On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 11:30:06 AM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > I think Leah mentioned that

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Leah Peterson
I would like to point out here that I am 5’ 6”, and a buck 35. Because if my rim is shot and this is unusual, I’m sure you’re imagining plausible reasons why! Lots of self-deprecating jokes are swirling through my head right now… I don’t carry that much stuff in the rear. The worst of it is in

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Wayne Naha
I thought it unusual that the rim was cracking. Not saying that the rim is defective, but perhaps has been overloaded with all the school supplies. A heavier duty rim may be in order here. Rims are consumable, but the cracking would be a concern for me. I have decades old rims with no such

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-28 Thread Ryan Fleming
I think Leah mentioned that the photo was of the old rimwhich is a consumable in my opinion. They can crack at the spokes and the braking surface can erode. Not Velocity's fault here On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:01:14 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > And you also need to contact

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-27 Thread Daniel D.
I dont know, seems like a nitpicky reason to return a tire... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-27 Thread Garth
Leah as I mentioned above you can get your exact same tire you had before, the Conti Tour Ride 42-584 27.5 x 1.5 While this is just one retailer, they do at least have them in stock. This, assuming a self install. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0035Y3HP8/ref=twister_dp_update?_encoding=UTF8=1 --

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread dougP
BMX tires in a 650B size? Are these for adult BMX bikes? Since the mechanic suggested "why not go with what you have?" & you agreed, I think you have a basis to return the BMX tires & get the ones you thought you were getting. In good faith, the owner should have at least called you to let

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread Jeffrey B
The little big bens are great tires in a 38mm width. I've got 5000+ miles on mine in lots of conditions off road and on, and they still have a ton of life left. Good luck! PS: I agree with the other posters about the sand spray dying down after a few more miles. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread Jon Dukeman
Leah, If you liked those Continentals go with them. If you want a change try Schwalbe touring tires.Not sure they have flat protection tire in your size. Did you say yours was 650b??? You might give Rivendell a call tell them you want best flat protection tire. Or ride the tires you got and see

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread Leah Peterson
Flat protection is TOTALLY priority for me. I *ducks head here* don't know how to change flats and don't really want to learn. I just want tires that do exactly what my last Continental tires did - give me zero trouble. I rode those tires thousands of miles and never a flat. So, tell me what

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
Leah, Remember if you don't ask you will never know. Ask the bike shop for an exchange. Worst case they say no.You walk away unhappy and they lose a customer.They can put the exchanged tires on another bike or sell them at a reduced price.The bike shop I worked at did that all the time.The same

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread Garth
I wouldn't let the classification "bmx" sway you Leah. Yes, it seems a very odd since bmx bikes that I know of don't have 27.5" wheels !I did finally find a website where they are listed and that is Tioga's Japanese website, gee why didn't I think to look there first ?! Ahahahaah ! It's

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread Ian A
Your new tires just need a few more miles on them. I find tires need 100 miles or so before they right. Give your new tires a bit more time and the likelihood is you'll like them just fine. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread WETH
Leah, Glad you had a good family ride. I agree those Somas would look nice on your Betty. I have the black tread version on my Romulus: (https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-new-xpress-650b-x-38-34-71-express-black-tread) I like how they ride, but I have gotten 3 flats in

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-26 Thread Leah Peterson
Hi All, It was nice enough for a family bike ride yesterday, so we took a new trails ways from home. I was hoping the sand spray would stop with some miles on the bike. I do think it's better, but still happens now and again. I was dismayed to find out these are BMX race tires? (See Garth's

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-25 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
Leah, I wonder if your new tires have a taller profile than the old ones and that might be causing all the scraping of pebbles and noise from sand and gravel scraping the fenders. My Sam and Cheviot have the same tires. The Sam has P45 fenders and I hear pebbles, & sand scraping the fender all

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-25 Thread Garth
 Seems like you may be "sticking" with them for awhile indeed! Curiously, the Racer X tires is marketed as a bmx ties (Betty BMXers). The extra grippiness is part of the design and the rubber has been "chemically etched" just in case enouh needs a little more help.

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-24 Thread Leah Peterson
Garth, I laughed out loud at the visual created with "sleigh ride down the hillside." Can't tell you why, it was just an apt description and I could feel it. I'll stick it out with these tires for awhile. I've got hope after reading that some others had the same and it improved with mileage.

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-24 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
It appears from the mechanic's notations that Leah posted that the rim was a 36-hole Velocity Synergy. On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 8:19:37 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I'm curious what those cracking rear rims were. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/24/2017 06:40 PM, Leah Peterson wrote: I took back the Bets! I don't know about these new tires, though. They seem to spit sand everywhere. I test rode it up and down the street and there was all this racket - rocks/sand spitting all over under the fenders. Weird. I don't know anything

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-24 Thread Ray Varella
The tires might not pick up as much detritus once they get a little scuffed. Hopefully. Your encounter with the fellow at the bike shop made for an interesting juxtaposition. Even when I rode 300 miles a week, I never thought it was expensive I must have been doing it wrong. Cycling is a

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-24 Thread Garth
Get the tires you want Leah ! While the shop owner may think what he put on is swell, but since you're the one that actually rides your bike(along with furry friend), that's about all there is to that. Reminds me of a back seat driver  I once had some Dunlop new auto tires that were

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-24 Thread franklyn
What rim/wheel did the bike shop order to replace your rear wheel? I am just curious about what's the "garden variety" rim brake 650b rim for LBS nowadays. Franklyn On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:41:01 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > I took back the Bets! I don't know about these new tires,

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread Ray Varella
That is a lot of bells. Perhaps you should consider adding a HonkaHoota to the mix. It would really add to his one man band handlebar. Ray Vallejo CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
I gotta get me a Rivelo bandanna. On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 2:58:37 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > I know, I know. The good news is I got the Husband Clem today so I'm back > in business, I hope. > > The other good news is the shop that worked on the Hotrock made it look > new. Wow.

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread Joe Bernard
Dats alotta bells! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread Ryan Fleming
nope afraid I don't either On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 3:45:33 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: > > Good point Ryan. I don't ever take my Rivendells places and lock them > up. I only use my beater bike for that, an 80s gas-pipe Nishiki. > > -Jim > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Ryan

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread Jim Bronson
Good point Ryan. I don't ever take my Rivendells places and lock them up. I only use my beater bike for that, an 80s gas-pipe Nishiki. -Jim On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Ryan Fleming wrote: > Jim makes a good point...custom dreams aside. That bike in Vegas

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread Ryan Fleming
Jim makes a good point...custom dreams aside. That bike in Vegas looks to be in pretty decent shape for $100. It does not look like it was ridden much. If it fits and you don't have to put too much into it it might not be a bad buy if BBITW is temporarily out of action. The Schwinn may be less

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread Jim Bronson
+albatross bars +decent saddle +decent tires Still, way cheaper than a new bike. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Edwin W wrote: > Didn't you say you were near Las Vegas? > > For $100 you can have a spare bike: > https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bik/6010365904.html > >

[RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread LeahFoy
This bike is pribably 10 minutes from me! How tempting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-21 Thread Edwin W
Didn't you say you were near Las Vegas? For $100 you can have a spare bike: https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bik/6010365904.html Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-15 Thread Ryan Fleming
They certainly do make nice tires...but I've found the 26 X 1.5'' mclure pass not nearly as durable as the Paselas w Tourguard and kevlar bead (3 flats last summer)... they replaced. I know you have a 650B wheel. Durability is something you may want to consider...the 650B Paselas I have on my

[RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-14 Thread dougP
That one was "worn out" quite a while ago, actually. While it's satisfying to eke out that last mile, tires worn down to the casing become very easy to flat, and depending on the situation potentially dangerous. Replacing before you've squeezed out the last mile can be done at home at your

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Wearing out a tire to the casing should be worn like a badge of courage. RESPECT. I'm proud of you, and glad it didn't fail far from home. Most Betty Foy owners don't accomplish that. Softies like me who have WAY too many bikes rarely accomplish that, either. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-14 Thread Leah Peterson
Bill, not only will I ask about the chain, I'm going to bring this whole reel of emails and read it to them! We'll input ALL the suggestions! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Sky Coulter wrote: > > y'know, compass makes some really nice tires. Might

[RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-14 Thread Sky Coulter
y'know, compass makes some really nice tires. Might be a fun change of pace. Sky in new west On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 4:00:48 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > I am no bike mechanic, as the following photos will prove. But I do check > things out and (mostly) notice when things are wrong,

[RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-02-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Yep. That rear tire is used up! GREAT work! Have the shop check your chain for wear at the same time. Promise? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito CA On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 4:00:48 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > I am no bike mechanic, as the following photos will prove. But I do check > things