Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-21 Thread lconley
Rene Herse sells bolt on centerpulls. [image: Bolt on.JPG] I had the chain rest installed on my Rivendell Custom. Rivendell used to sell a clamp-on version. [image: frame (2).jpg] Laing On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 12:54:01 AM UTC-5 Bill Gibson wrote: > I see derailleurs for sale for

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-15 Thread Bill Gibson
I see derailleurs for sale for $20, and up. I bet they shift just fine with skillful installation and practice. Dura-Ace costs a little more than the Nivex Nuevo, but not much, which I guess is a statement about the place in the universe the Nivex claims. Better and lighter and cheaper than

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-15 Thread Patrick Moore
As Grant said circa 1997: "We are product driven, not market driven." I don't have a use for very wide sweepback bars or a Nivex rd, but I do admire them both for forcing the design and creation of things they love in a market where everything is flowing in the opposite direction, *and* it's not

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Jason Zakaras
I’m sure this was just being cheeky, but to ride a bike, dings and all, is to respect it… I love the look of the derailleur and wouldn’t mind adding it to a bike, I don’t think it’s that expensive to have such a unique and pleasing look added to the right bike. My .02. Which might not be as

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread John Dewey
If you were lucky enough to find one of those NOS, it'd probably be close to the cost Jan's. If you need one, cheap at twice the price! Jock On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:16:59 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote: > (Channeling my inner Paul B.) I wonder if the Suntour S-1 had the same > braze on

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread John Dewey
So…RBW. Does a $15,000 handbuilt artbike enjoy preferential treatment or does it acquire the usual beausage like any other? Like your lowly, say, old Rambouillet? https://flic.kr/p/2kafNb7 Feeling silly now  BEST / Jock Dewey Do you let it get all dinged up like your other bikes or do you

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Joe Bernard
THERE ya go. Find yourself an old Schwinn CrissCross (maybe it was CrossCut) with the S-1 braze-on and put a Nivex on it! On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:16:59 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote: > (Channeling my inner Paul B.) I wonder if the Suntour S-1 had the same > braze on spec? > [image: Screen

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Jay Lonner
I’m sympathetic to the cyclotouriste-inspired aesthetic, but agree that it seems like a very niche setup that is prone to instant obsolescence if RH stops making spare parts. If I were in the market for a new bike requiring custom fittings for a novel shifting system I’d just go for a Rohloff,

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
bmfo used two question marks in a post, but I'm not sure whether the questions were sincere or rhetorical. They were: "its still prone to being broken or bent. Then what? " Then the owner of that $15000 custom built bike will buy replacement parts from Rene Herse "Will RH be making this

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Laing pointed out that the shift levers are sold out. So is the derailer itself! At least this morning (December 13, 2022) it is. This is never going to be a high volume part. Plan your next $15000 custom bike around it, or gaze from a distance... BL in EC On Monday, December 12, 2022 at

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Brian Forsee
This thing looks cool but as a whole i think it's exceptionally silly. It may be better protected than a standard der but its still prone to being broken or bent. Then what? Will RH be making this thing 10 or 15 years down the line? Same goes for the shifter. I expect some people with a huge

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Berkeleyan
To borrow a trite phrase, The Nivex shows that RH Cycles have jumped the shark. The cost is well beyond any common rider's reach, requires retrofitment brazing, paint, and only works with a custom shifter that mounts to a downtube. Kudos to Grant and RBW for sticking it out to bring a new RD

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Mackenzy Albright
My assumption is this der setup would be a lifelong purchase? Seems like most bikes that had this originally are still functioning. I'd imagine it'd Pay for itself on a bike that was owned and ridden for manymany years. I think it's beautiful. I won't buy one any time soon. But if I ever win

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread greenteadrinkers
The shift lever looks as though it would have to be mounted only to a downtube shift boss, guessing one might have to forgo bar-end shifting. Scott On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:47:50 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > The price point + the added cost of having to modify a frame with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Brian Turner
The price point + the added cost of having to modify a frame with the proprietary braze-on it needs to mount it would make this impractical beyond the derailleur cost alone for most folks.On Dec 13, 2022, at 9:32 AM, Eliot Balogh wrote:I think Grant said ~$170. Sensah offered to do them for $350

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread J J
I love the image of the peanut gallery here! So besides the price of entry for the RD itself, there is the cost of the lever (any other hardware?), and designing a custom built bike around it or retrofitting a frame with an appropriate braze-on and cable guide, which would probably also mean

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Eliot Balogh
I think Grant said ~$170. Sensah offered to do them for $350 which he was adamantly against as he wanted them to be affordable and functional rather than something artistic that no one bought. On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 6:24 AM Shoji Takahashi wrote: > I'd love to try it-- unfortunately an

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I'd love to try it-- unfortunately an unlikely proposition for me. After seeing the RH price point, I'm scared to think what the Riv derailer will cost. shoji arlington ma On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 8:39:29 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote: > I'm intrigued but consider all the bits needed

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Bill Schairer
I'm intrigued but consider all the bits needed to make it happen and one is probably looking at more like $1,500 and, besides that, most of those added bits aren't available!? I'm still intrigued, though. Bill S San Diego On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote: > I'm

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-12 Thread Garth
I'm all peanut gallery on this one. I'm reminded of a Canadian rock band I listened to as a teen named Max Webster. They had an album called "High Class in Borrowed Shoes". I never really related much to that title until right now.. and how underneath the inflated image of "high class"

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-12 Thread lconley
Except that the shift levers are sold out! Laing On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:25:16 PM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote: > Pretty cool - but another $250 for the shift lever. Still great to see > components like this being made! > > On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:57:26 AM UTC-5 Marty

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-12 Thread DavidP
The "custom Rivendell" part is key as it requires the chainstay braze-on for the RD mount rather than the standard dropout hanger mount. -Dave On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:57:26 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote: > The Nivex is on the market now, and I really like the look of

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-12 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
That's a really cool bit, yet it's a lot to spend just to be different and stylish. What's the functional benefit to investing in one? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 10:25 AM, James M wrote: Pretty cool - but another $250 for the shift lever.  Still great to see

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-12 Thread James M
Pretty cool - but another $250 for the shift lever. Still great to see components like this being made! On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:57:26 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote: > The Nivex is on the market now, and I really like the look of it. Even at > $729.00 it feels like

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-12 Thread Luke Hendrickson
Marty! Thank you for sharing this here. I’ve often admired Jan’s rig with the Nivex and wanted a production version for myself. It’s beautiful and to the point and what’s more – I want one! Should I tire of my three pulley Suntour (and want to pony up for a frame modification + repaint), I’d

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
I hereby submit a pre-emptive APPROVE to the first person to run a Nivex RD on a Rivendell. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 7:57:26 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote: > The Nivex is on the market now, and I really like the look of it. Even at >