Both badminton and rugby are played professionally, though not so much in
the US. Same for team handball and table tennis.
Trivia: The US has never medaled in only three current Olympic events -
table tennis, team handball and badminton. We took golds in rugby back in
the 1920's.
Bill
sure. But the line for me, a pro gets a check playing their sport with or
without Olympic participation. Phelps or Bolt aren't getting those checks
without the Olympics. Who watches a pro swim league? Serena, carmelo, and
bubba OTH...
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On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 4:25:42 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
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> Dolphin's don't have thighs?:p The olympics have been open to pros for a
> while. Rosters for tennis, basketball, golf, and soccer are full of pros.
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Don't forget gymnastics, track and swimming too! With all the
FWIW, the size and shape of muscles has little and nothing to do with how
fast anyone goes. There is no one thing you can point to as to why one
rides the way they ride. Lots of theories and lots of conjecture. Half
truth's don't count as the Truth :) Take a look at the pro peloton, you'll
Dolphin's don't have thighs?:p The olympics have been open to pros for a
while. Rosters for tennis, basketball, golf, and soccer are full of pros.
On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 2:38:35 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
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> I saw some of the men's time trials today while chowing down at the sushi
I saw some of the men's time trials today while chowing down at the sushi
buffet with the wife.
Those guys have dolphin thighs. No wonder I am such a weak rider. Gotta
have respect for them. They earned the dolphion thighs and they sure do get
to enjoy going fast.
But I wondered about the pro
Sure looked to me like she slipped when she hit the center stripe.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:20:50 AM UTC-4, ascpgh wrote:
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> When picking tires for that course, I wonder how many considered the
> moisture? That section where the Dutch rider went down looked moist, like
> from
Conventional wisdom in the racing crowd says that saving weight at the rim /
tire is even more benificial than just saving weight in general. Not everyone
holds with the notion that this is significant though. I believe the topic has
been debated here in the past.
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In addition to the aerodynamic advantages of skinny tires, tubulars, etc.
in this discussion, I've always understood that *weight* out at the rim was
a big factor as well. IOW, the lighter the rim, tire, etc. the easier it
is to maintain a high momentum (cadence), hence the use of these
When picking tires for that course, I wonder how many considered the
moisture? That section where the Dutch rider went down looked moist, like
from condensing moisture. Back when special compound tires were just
landing in stores and folks buying them were finding out themselves that
their
Thanks for the clarity Mark !
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I thought of it more as an analogy. Anyway, I wasn't calling you out as
someone who doesn't know from race cars, I was simply making a point about
the whole bike racing scene, from technology to the "feel the burn" riding
lifestyle. Reading your posts, they seemed to be concerned with
Ahahaha, you know what I mean, it's a metaphor for goodness sake. I'm
not speaking of the vehicle, I'm speaking of the *intensity *of the whole
experience of a racing in a racing event*. *The bike or car or whatever is
just the means for the experience. The whole point is to win, you're
Not really. It would be very very expensive, as well as illegal, to drive
most classes of race car on the street. Yet any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk
into a bike shop and buy the exact same bicycles the pros race on. Which,
in fact, is the reason Grant wrote "Just Ride." One has nothing to do
Aerodynamics and weight certainly matter at those speeds for sure. My point
was that I don't recall whether wide tires suffer measurable aero
disadvantage in Jan's tire tests or not (or whether it was measurable at
all).
On this particular course, the last circuit has two significant climbs,
Most of them are on 25-27mm tubulars now.
Aero benefits at the speeds these athletes are racing at are real, as is
weight. You don't wear a skinsuit and have slammed stems because they look cool.
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Great points, Franklyn.
I was surprised by how much vibration I could see in the slow motion
closeups of the handlebars on sections that looked newly paved and
presumably smoother than the parts that appeared rough. This made me think
the surfaces that looked new and buttery smooth were in
On a cobbled course like Paris Roubaix, some pro racers ride 28mm
tubulars--not 42mm 650b Compass tires, but not 23mm racing tubulars either.
Pro racers can also change bikes mid-race. Chris Froome changed bike when
they began the second circuit during the Olymplic men's road race. Given
what
Well, Patrick, it was a beautiful ride and a very gallant effort... and in
defeat she was extremely gracious..I was cheering for her and gutted about
the young Dutchwoman Van Vleuten's crash. That's why I feel bike racing is
an epic sport in the truest sense of the word and I still continue to
This WSJ article by Jason Gay does a great job of capturing the bike race
in a stunningly Rivendelian spirit, as evidenced by the Headline: "Mara
Abbott's Beautiful Ride in Rio":
http://www.wsj.com/articles/mara-abbotts-beautiful-ride-in-rio-1470615782?mod=rss_Sports
With abandon,
Patrick
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Aha, the Olympics -- those things. I forgot about them. Unfortunately, no
TV ... Am trying to catch glimpses on youtube.
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>>> Patrick: I've been watching on NBColympics.com.
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A couple of things I noticed:
Rio Olympic sized-bottles didn't stay in the cages very well...you'd think
bottles would have a standard diameter but apparently not...bottles popping
out all over the place
Norwegian rider's seatpost bolt snapped , saddle slid down into the frame,
necessitating
Well yeah DP ! Some of these races come down to photo finishes of less
than an inch separating them. Wins means more $$$ in multiple ways.
Racing is hard, really hard , really really really hard, nothing like
recreation riding.
Pros also ride tubular rims and tires, which are very
Why is noone on a Rivendell?
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Och! For want of 4 seconds! Stunning skills, a horrific crash on a mountain
descent (she's at hospital and conscious) and a spectacular finish,
especially if you're Dutch or Swedish.
Patrick: I've been watching on NBColympics.com.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 11:18:47 AM
Professionals that race and make parts, frames and tires are not stupid
or ignorant as they are all about winning bike races and
sales/sponsorships. Big $$$. There is more to a bike than just the tire and
rolling resistance of that tire by itself. You've also got areodynamics and
the drag
They are remarkable atheleates aren't they.
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Tongue in cheek, Ted. It's a totally different type of riding than I (dare
I say we?) do, many people smarter than me decide what is needed to be as
fast as possible, and the cobbles are only a small percentage. It is
amazing to watch!
With abandon,
Patrick
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