Come on Doug it wasn't that consequential was it...
~Hugh
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 5:10:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
Isn't it called the Great Divide route because it closely follows the
continental divide? As in, wayy up in the mountains? While I love my
Atlantis, and have taken it
Yes the Hungapillar would do nicely.
~Hugh
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
Quick afterthought: Jim's Hunqapillar is shod with 55 mm Big Bens looks
to have some clearance. Maybe a Hunq w/ginormous knobbies?
dougP
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 5:10:59 PM
Mike,
That ECR looks interesting. You may have stumbled me into another bike, as
I was thinking of building up my old Salsa or Trek 850 into a strictly
bike-camping rig but knowing Surly it would probably be easier to just
plunk down the cash for this beasty.
~Hugh
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we all like to have a good time and be safe, but you chose your Roadeo over
your Atlantis on the Sierra to the Sea ride because it was more appropriate
for that ride. Call it what you want.. to me that was to improve your
riding efficiency. it's about picking the right bike/tires/gear for a
Patrick, of course it will improve your climbing speed to take a few pounds
off your wheels. The fatter tires might be a little more fun going down
though. You have to pick the right tire for the whole route.
The Furious Fred's are super light... 360gms for a 29er tire!. Kinda like
Challenge
The need for tech on any trail is greatly exaggerated.
My under biked Hunqapillar (50mm duremes w/ fenders) and loaded for 10
days (no stopping to get food, but we pruified water) handled 99% of what
others on the latest/greatest MTBs with fat knobbies and no load could
ride. They had to LCG
From what I hear, in the New Mexico portions of the trail,
washboarding can't be avoided by picking a good line. At least, people
riding the New Mexico section, people who were tired of day after day
of washboard and had every incentive to avoid washboards, report they
were unable to do so.
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Absolutely. Sorry, didn't mean to give the impression that worked on the
whole route. But that's a relatively small section of the route as well,
and the travel of most shocks is 3-4. That ain't gonna help much and
you're still gonna have to stand. That's my take on it.
With abandon,
Patrick
An Adventure Cycling staff member said during one of the nightly map
meetings last year that the Great Divide route stays within 50 miles of the
Continental Divide. The actual Continental Divide is mostly wilderness
where bikes are not allowed. The Montana piece we rode varied in elevation
I rode Banff to Whitefish on the Great Divide last year. Beautiful territory
with some steep hills! I rode my Bridgestone XO-3 with 1.7 inch knobbies and
had no problems. And V-brakes were fine. I even think my touring bike with
37's would have been fine for 98% of the trail. That said, I'll
Exactly. The Great Divide MTB Trail criss-crosses the Continental Divide as
it zippers it's way down it. The highest point is around 12,700, with
most point rather below that. It's an arduous trail, but as near as I can
tell from my own experience, the requirement for suspension is the same
as
I'd love to ride the Great Divide. Not sure you need suspension/discs but
2 wide knobby tires would make it a lot more enjoyable. The whole thing
is a big chunk to bite off but a 1 week section could be really fun.
~mike
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Is a 2 knobby two inches including knobs? Or is a 2 knobby a 2 tire
and then knobs put on?
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
I'd love to ride the Great Divide. Not sure you need suspension/discs but
2 wide knobby tires would make it a lot more
a few mm isn't that big a deal if you are on something close. I'd choose
the widest tire you can fit with room for mud.
~mike
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:44:35 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
Is a 2 knobby two inches including knobs? Or is a 2 knobby a 2 tire
and then knobs put on?
On
I rode a bunch of the Montana section last year on my Disc Trucker with
26x2 Schwalbe Mondial tires. Some of it was pretty arduous, with rocks the
size of baby heads nested in a bed of loose sandy stuff (mostly accumulated
at the bottoms of big hills). It was doable for me, but I think a 2.3
Babyhead rocks, and sand, and steep hills? The Defense of 2.3 Knobbies
and Disk Brakes rests, your honor.
I like underbiking, but not that far under.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
I rode a bunch of the Montana section last year on my
I have ridden the northern part of the divide, using 40mm tires fully
loaded on a regular touring bike, and I would definitely not hesitate to do
it on an Atlantis.Parts of it were gnarly, but they were not that long
and were actually kind of fun.I found that those washboard roads go
Isn't it called the Great Divide route because it closely follows the
continental divide? As in, wayy up in the mountains? While I love my
Atlantis, and have taken it some places it really wasn't meant to go, it
seems this is a ride for which a purpose built MTB is more appropriate. I
Quick afterthought: Jim's Hunqapillar is shod with 55 mm Big Bens looks
to have some clearance. Maybe a Hunq w/ginormous knobbies?
dougP
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 5:10:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
Isn't it called the Great Divide route because it closely follows the
continental divide?
My Hunq serves as a rigid 29er when it has the Big Bens. So I'd advise that if
one is confident on any 2.2ish mountain bike for a given terrain, then similar
confidence would ensue on the Hunq. Given that, you then reap all the benefits
of a top-notch touring bike. Great bike!
Keep in mind, I
Just out of curiosity, Anne, have you found out if your Atlantis, can take the
Big Bens in 55?
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On Aug 1, 2013, at 5:38 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
My Hunq serves as a rigid 29er when it has the Big Bens. So I'd advise that
if one is confident on any
I haven't checked, but I suspect it can't. I'm going to put the
Schwalbe 2.0s on my other Atlantis, the purple one I use for touring,
in preparation for the Lost Coast of California.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:45 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
Just out of curiosity, Anne, have
Good plan. I did the Unknown Coast Loop on an Atlantis a year ago. Even though
it is paved, the 700x40 knobby Extremes I used were precisely whar that
particular pavement demanded. My riding friends were envious.
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On Aug 1, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Anne Paulson
Hey Doug, most of the guys/gals who race it ( GD race) use fairly skinny
knobbies for MTB's The most common tires WTB's Nano raptor and the Conti
Race Kings only measure about 50mm wide. Sure a big fat knobby would help
but it does slow you down a bit, even for unracers.
~mike
On Thursday,
The GDR is mostly roads, not MTB trail, but the roads are remote and don't
get much maintenance in places. You COULD do it on an Atlantis, but you may be
more comfy and confident with a mountain bike.
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It has been done on cyclocross tires, but that would be too underbiked for
me. An Atlantis with 2 tires would be fine, I think. As Mike said, the
favorite tires of the racers have been relatively skinny knobbies.
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The Unknown Coast has poor paving, and the Lost Coast just south of it
is dirt. So wide tires are definitely de rigueur.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:42 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
Good plan. I did the Unknown Coast Loop on an Atlantis a year ago. Even
though it is paved, the
Wait... am I on the Riv list? Am I seeing an appeal to what racers
use? Am I seeing claims that a certain tire would slow me down?
I'll tell you what would slow me down. Crashing and breaking a bone
out in the middle of nowhere, that's what.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mike Schiller
I've read a couple of accounts of the Great Divide event, riders living on
candy bars, powdered drinks (yechchch!), no sleep, running low on water,
etc., etc. Probably wouldn't take their minimalist gear recommendations
too seriously. OTH, a couple I know road from Canada to Colorado on
There are a lot of long dirt road sections, so improving efficiency is more
about completing your planned route than overall speed. While I'm not
suggesting adopting a racing focus, optimizing your bike and gear to
increase how much fun you have along the way.
But... we all have different
oops! I meant bikepacking rig.
~mike
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When I'm touring, I don't place a high value on improving efficiency.
Actually, I don't place a high value on improving efficiency in any of
my riding: I want to be comfortable and safe and have a good time. I
like to beat people up to the top of the hill, but I like a lot of
other things about
Mike: an aside: after grunting my 35 lb Fargo with hugely heavy (800 gr
rims and tires) up 17 miles of gravel climb last week, I have decided to
equip the much lighter Rhyno Lite wheelset with sub 600 gram knobbies and
save the other set for local sand.
From your experience, will taking, say, a
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