[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-09 Thread rperks
I would second that, our first is still not due for 2 months, and I am already setting aside a pool of money for the kiddie stoker setup, there is a guy here in town that is everywhere with his son on back. and by the looks of thenm you would never be able to get the smile off their faces. On Apr

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Michael_S
If you use a foam pad or inflatable foam pad an air mattress is redundant. Who would do something like that? ~Mike~ On Apr 8, 2:21 pm, happyriding wrote: > On Apr 8, 9:57 am, "Frederick, Steve" > wrote: > > > Michael_S wrote, in part: > > > >...You mention air mattresses. Hopefully they are e

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread ANDREW LETTON
From: Rene Sterental To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 5:02:47 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie! Thanks all for such great feedback and advice. By air matress I meant the Big Agnes Air Core Sleeping Pad that goes inside the sleeve in

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Rene Sterental wrote: > > I think the warm chocolate in the morning makes a lot of sense, so I'll be > looking into a small stove/unit based on all the multiple suggestions and > recommendations that have been going around. If all you want is a hot drink, the ador

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Rene Sterental
Thanks all for such great feedback and advice. By air matress I meant the Big Agnes Air Core Sleeping Pad that goes inside the sleeve in the BA sleeping bags. I read many great reviews about this combo, and it felt to be a very light versatile setup. By separate e-mail I've also received feedback

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Dave Craig
Thanks for this, Jim! Great article. On Apr 8, 9:46 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > While the gear recommendations above are worth your consideration, and > could make a few recommendations of products and strategies that have > worked ok for me, I believe you will learn best by doing.

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread happyriding
On Apr 8, 10:46 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > I recently linked this old Dirt Rag article about, > shall we say, bare-bones touring on the HC blog, and I think it's > worth a few minutes of reading for the > perspective.http://www.dirtragmag.com/print/article-print.php?ID=859 > Ok.

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread happyriding
On Apr 8, 9:57 am, "Frederick, Steve" wrote: > Michael_S wrote, in part: > > >...You mention air mattresses. Hopefully they are either closed cell foam or > >inflatable foam, because an air mattess provides no insulation from > >the cold ground. This will help you sleep warmer in your summer weigh

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread JoelMatthews
> Not so little anymore :) He's 6'3" and he just turned twenty. How about that! Early outdoors got him off to a good start. On Apr 8, 12:03 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:30 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> I did my first S24O with my son when he was eight months old. Why > >>

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread JoelMatthews
Wow. Guess Chicago's friend and foe Lake Michigan has really been suppressing temperatures around here. I have seen the occasional creepy crawly indoors but no flying insects outside yet. On Apr 8, 2:09 pm, doc wrote: > Joel, > > I was out the other night at dusk, riding along the Yellow Breech

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread doc
Joel, I was out the other night at dusk, riding along the Yellow Breeches, which is a nationally known trout stream, and was covered with bugs. I was tempted to take off my bandana and ride "outlaw" style; but opted to squint and limit my breathing to nose only. On Apr 8, 3:00 pm, JoelMatthews w

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread JoelMatthews
Not a bad list at all. But I must ask: Bug spray? In Pennsylvania the second weekend of April? On Apr 8, 1:49 pm, doc wrote: > I'm going to do my first S24O this Saturday.  Here is my > list:http://gspiess.wordpress.com/2010/04/08/s24o-pack-list/ > > On Apr 8, 5:17 am, Rene Sterental wrote: >

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread doc
I'm going to do my first S24O this Saturday. Here is my list: http://gspiess.wordpress.com/2010/04/08/s24o-pack-list/ On Apr 8, 5:17 am, Rene Sterental wrote: > I'm going to do my very first S24O in China Camp (Marin county, CA) on the > weekend of May 8 - 9 with my 11 year old son. I have abso

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Bill Connell
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Bill Connell wrote: > >> >> My oldest daughter's first camping trip was when she was 7-8 months >> old, but both kids are in the middle range now where they're too big >> to haul in a Burley, but not able to ri

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:30 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: >> I did my first S24O with my son when he was eight months old. Why >> wait? It's fun to tour with babies and young children. > > That is the spirit.  The little guy is going to be very comfortable in > the great outdoors with that start. > Not

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Bill Connell wrote: > >> >> My oldest daughter's first camping trip was when she was 7-8 months >> old, but both kids are in the middle range now where they're too big >> to haul in a Burley, but not able to ri

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Bill Connell wrote: > > My oldest daughter's first camping trip was when she was 7-8 months > old, but both kids are in the middle range now where they're too big > to haul in a Burley, but not able to ride any distance yet. I know that Riv doesn't make them, but

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
While the gear recommendations above are worth your consideration, and could make a few recommendations of products and strategies that have worked ok for me, I believe you will learn best by doing. The beauty of a S24O is that you only have to live with your mistakes for 24 hours or less. I recent

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Bill Connell
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: >> Have fun! I'm still a couple of years away from being able to do S24O >> rides with my kids, very much looking forward to it. > > I did my first S24O with my son when he was eight months old. Why > wait? It's fun to tour with babies and young

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread JoelMatthews
> I did my first S24O with my son when he was eight months old. Why > wait? It's fun to tour with babies and young children. That is the spirit. The little guy is going to be very comfortable in the great outdoors with that start. On Apr 8, 11:23 am, Anne Paulson wrote: > > Have fun! I'm still

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Anne Paulson
> Have fun! I'm still a couple of years away from being able to do S24O > rides with my kids, very much looking forward to it. I did my first S24O with my son when he was eight months old. Why wait? It's fun to tour with babies and young children. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eel

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Bill Connell
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Frederick, Steve wrote: > Michael_S wrote, in part: > >>...You mention air mattresses. Hopefully they are either closed cell foam or >>inflatable foam, because an air mattess provides no insulation from >>the cold ground. This will help you sleep warmer in your sum

RE: [RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Frederick, Steve
Michael_S wrote, in part: >...You mention air mattresses. Hopefully they are either closed cell foam or >inflatable foam, because an air mattess provides no insulation from >the cold ground. This will help you sleep warmer in your summer weight >bags too... Yep indeedy! I used a big comfy air ma

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Michael_S
I'm with Dave on tent size, small is best, as long as you are comfortable inside, it also is less interior space to heat up. The tent will add about 10d capability to your sleep system. You mention air mattresses. Hopefully they are either closed cell foam or inflatable foam, because an air mattess

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread Dave Craig
René You've seen this, right? http://www.rivbike.com/article/bike_camping/a_kit_for_one_night_out I'm the opposite of Anne in terms of tent size. I like smallish tents because they are usually lighter and they pack easier. Get a sleeping bag that will keep you warm. 50 degrees is a little sparse

[RBW] Re: S24O for a complete newbie!

2010-04-08 Thread manueljohnacosta
Might I suggest a sleeping bag liner if your not planning to wear something woolish when going to bed. The nights can be a little chilly and a sleeping bag liner can keep you warm and keep your sleeping bag from getting dirty. Dress in layers helps solve most issues with warmth, but not all issues.