Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-17 Thread Belopsky
for those tempted, i am selling my shimano 105 11speed bits. see my for sale thread; -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-17 Thread Paul Y
All these opinions have helped me decide to stick with 2x8 gearing and just keep working on getting stronger. A good reminder that STI is a black box and is perfect until it's not... I plan to do audaxes so the bar end system should be considered a big plus, enough reason to forego the closer

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-17 Thread Paul Y
Hey Patrick, reread your post, I think you're right! Will try riding in a single gear and see how it feels again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-17 Thread Don Compton
Patrick, I have Ultegra 11sp on my Roadeo. At 66yo I have little or no need for high gears but still enjoy close gears on the flats and rolling hills. I have a 48-34 crankset with an Ultegra 14-28 cassette. That's a straight block 14-21 with 23,25 and 28 cogs added. It's like having an older

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread lum gim fong
Single speed riders are shiftless people.  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Brewster Fong
I run 9 speed cassette on 2 bikes, 7 speed fw on another an 11 speed on my go-fast. I'm not sure what the "advantages" are, if any, of going to 11. Well, I guess if you like closer range of the cogs, there's more of them, so that's good. You can also find stuff that may not be available in 8 or

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Hi Paul, I too have the itch. I am the original owner of a Merlin Extralight ('95 vintage). I originally spec'd it with 8-speed Dura-Ace, early brifters. After awhile running the 8-speed drivetrain I converted the crank to a triple, using a 39-tooth 'tripleizer' along with a wider bb. Run

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
This brings up an interesting question: I know it applies mostly to racing at close to 10/10s, but still: do any of you find that the easier shifting when using brifters translates into measurable speed gains, on the average? I realize that this depends on riding style and conditions, but I think

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Brewster Fong
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 9:14:58 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote: > > Campy 11/Shimano 11 are interchangeable as far as: > Campy 11 drivetrain w/ Shimano 11speed cassette or vice-versa > Agree. I'm using Sram etap with Campy 11 cassette/wheel and it works perfectly. But is there a way it

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Belopsky
Campy 11 works with 9speed Shimano Campy 10 works well with 8speed Shimano Campy 11/Shimano 11 are interchangeable as far as: Campy 11 drivetrain w/ Shimano 11speed cassette or vice-versa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Max S
Back when we were young and good looking (in the '90s), I entered some races with an old-fashioned bike, downtube shifters, etc. So did my friend, initially. He was married, so unlike me, he didn't waste time on social life, instead training seriously. He won a bunch of races with his downtube

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Tim Gavin
Yes, all three major brands offer hidden cable routing. Shimano was the holdout; they designed their system to avoid Campagnolo's patents, so they kept the east-west cable exit through 9-speed. However, some have criticized Shimano's 10-speed brifters for wearing through cables rapidly (due to

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread lum gim fong
ain’t they got brifters now that have the shifter cables running under bartape so ye can use a front bag now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Boy oh boy this thread really makes me want to get a Roadini with modern brifty bits. I don't need one! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Christopher Murray
I think brifters are great and offer some advantages. I’m going to go out on a limb and say they will make you faster (really they will make your bike faster). First, brifters lead to more shifting. Being in a more efficient gear more often will save energy over the course of a ride. Second,

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Belopsky
Curtis very much is in business. On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 3:24:15 PM UTC-5, lconley wrote: > > Tires are 44mm Snoqualmie Pass. > > Hubs are from Curtis Odom - rear is same Holey high flange as the front. > The hubs were only available as track or 11 speed which is what got me into > the

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Gotcha, Steve. Now I’ve caught up with you, I learned a lot riding poser single speed and even some riding poser fixed prior to getting the hardware. Of course, until riding the ss/fixed hardware, it is difficult to know what is the same in poser mode vs. the genuine article. From poser single

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
Oy, Patty, I was just asking your opinion of the "iron clad vow" method vs actual hardware changes.  I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing; I have no dog in the single-speed fight, having long since determined that it wasn't for me, due to biological hardware problems.  (The problems have since

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
That is a sweet set-up, Laing! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread lconley
Tires are 44mm Snoqualmie Pass. Hubs are from Curtis Odom - rear is same Holey high flange as the front. The hubs were only available as track or 11 speed which is what got me into the 11 speed in the 1st place. Not sure if Curtis is still in business - his website is no longer up. I might

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Patrick Moore
That's pretty! I don't care for double top tubes or high bars, but I do like the look. What are the tires? And what is that exotic front hub? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:58 AM, lconley wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Mayhap English is nae me first languague? I’d’ve sworn, Steve, you were, with the exception of the hyperbolic cast iron vow, in violent agreement of what I’ve said. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 8:45:05 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > What do you

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread lconley
My Sam is 11 speed - 105 derailleurs, Dura-Ace bar ends, Ultegra cassette and chain. The crank is a VO drillium which is supposedly good up to 10 speeds, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Steve said: *What do you think of the idea of instead of making hardware changes to convert a bike to single speed, simply make a cast-iron vow not to touch the shift levers? It's certainly the lazy/frugal man's way.* Sheesh! That's no fun! In order to have fun, you have to undertake a complex

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
What do you think of the idea of instead of making hardware changes to convert a bike to single speed, simply make a cast-iron vow not to touch the shift levers?   It's certainly the lazy/frugal man's way. On 01/15/2018 10:38 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Hey Paul! Is it possible you are

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Hey Paul! Is it possible you are responding to what I didn’t say as if it is what I did say? I’m not saying switch to single speed, only that riding single speed occationally will help you understand your gearing. Since you have two years under your belt of fixed riding, a muscle memory

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-15 Thread Paul Y
Haha, Justin, love it! Really, thank you all for chiming in. I like that the opinions are weighted towards simplicity... so I think I will keep my 2 x 8 speed for a while. Joe: Exactly what I was thinking when wondering whether to go STI or not. I used to have Dura Ace 7800 on another bike.

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-14 Thread Brewster Fong
Haha, as other have said, if you want more "speed" going to 11 isn't really going to do it. Fitness is the key. Nevertheless, if you need to go to 11 speed, why stop at 105?! Yes, a 105 groupo is relatively cheap - under $500: