[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-08 Thread Lungimsam
Matt, BQ studies tire construction to determine which designs give the rider the fastest and most comfortable ride quality. It is alleged that the speed percentages measured in the BQ studies (like the slowest tire tested was ~20% slower than the fastest tire tested., iirc) adds up over long

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-07 Thread Matthew J
When I put on my Compass tires for the first time I sure as heck noticed the difference. Vittorias always seemed harsh and uninvolved. Compass smooth engaging. Not sure how those impressions could be measured under controlled conditions with power impressions. On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-07 Thread Daniel D.
I think they're using the power meters and controlled conditions to ensure measurements are as objective and repeatable as possible. Not that the differences are undetectable without such equipment. On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 9:20:16 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: > > Seems to me that if

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-06 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Seems to me that if differences can only be detected under carefully controlled conditions using power meters none of these tires are worth all the fuss and expense. I'll stick with my $20 Vittoria Randonneur's. Matt On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 12:22:40 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: > > >

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-06 Thread Edwin W
Jan, You have discovered a way to make all tires seem supple and fast rolling: ride 15 miles on rumble strips then go out on a "regular" ride. For those that don't want to spring for new tires! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-06 Thread Takashi
Thank you Jan. I have enjoyed reading your articles in blog and BQ, and they inspired me to do the test. As an amateur cyclist, my time to ride bike is limited, so I cannot say for sure how many times I will ride the same route. I like to visit places I have never seen, rather than riding same

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-06 Thread Jan Heine
Takashi, First of all, I apologize for butchering your name... Please do report on further testing you do, but I totally understand that testing is a tedious job. I can tell you when we did the rumble strip test, and I had to ride 15 miles on rumble strips over the course of a morning, I was

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-05 Thread Jan Heine
Takahashi, That is an interesting comparison. Like you, I am surprised that our Barlow Pass tires weren't super-fast. At first, I thought about why this could be... until I realized that you did only one run with each tire. You mention that yours isn't a detailed study, and you are right. It

Re: [RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-04 Thread Patrick Moore
FWIW, I've got about 1500 miles on my Furious Freds and the rear knoblets are about halfway worn down; the fronts are almost as new. Probably 50% pavement, 50% sandy dirt. On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Takashi wrote: > There are 3 types of Thunder Burts (LiteSkin,

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-04 Thread Surlyprof
Nice experiment. I'm surprised that the Mondial and Barlow Pass numbers were so close. Like you, I always thought of my Mondials as a pretty slow, heavy tire. The Barlow Pass Extralights felt light as the air inside them in comparison. I would recommend the extralights. I've ridden them

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-04 Thread dougP
Thanks for taking the trouble to test, record & post your findings. The impressions are especially helpful. Oftentimes I find the subjective feel of how a tire rides & handles to be an important factor in my perception of the performance of the tire. Good stuff. dougP On Thursday, September

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-04 Thread Takashi
There are 3 types of Thunder Burts (LiteSkin, SnakeSkin, RaceGuard), whereas there is only one type of Furious Fred. http://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad-reader/thunder-burt.html http://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad-reader/furious-fred.html Just below photos there is a chart showing grip,

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Amazing, Takashi! As most here know, my go to tires are: Thunder Burt for my Hunqapillar; Barlow Pass for my Quickbeam. I think you are on to something when you mention that heat could have been a factor with your Barlow Pass ride. I don't track speed, time, distance, etc., but hot rides are

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-03 Thread dstein
Awesome right up and thanks for sharing. Aren't the Thunder Burts also racing tires meant for short term use like the furious freds? Are are those in fact more duarable? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-03 Thread John Hawrylak
All I can say is Wow and Thank You. An excellent job and excellent report. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Tested 6 pairs of 700c (29in) tires - results and impressions

2015-09-03 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Thanks, Takashi! I'll add Thunder Burts to my list for the Hunqapillar. On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 3:35:46 AM UTC-4, Takashi wrote: > > > > I tested various 700c (29-inch) tires on a