Roberta - yes, I’ll be the happiest for sure! “Joyously upright.”
Mas - I don’t know about all that. I just like not having to lean forward or
have weight on my hands. I’ve heard it called “Sit up and beg” position, but my
husband said, “No, it’s the seated command position.” 藍藍藍
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Leah, it strikes me that what you're going for is what bikies call "a
strandie". Which is a rather loose description, but basically boils down to a
Cruiser with tall or wide & tall handlebars.
It's a common term in different coastal regions, but regionally the execution
is a big different.
Most
You will be the happiest upright bicycle rider in Nevada. That is a beautiful
tall/short stem.
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I think the seattube on my 45cm Clem L is shorter than your stem
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Miles and miles of stem...as far as the eye can see. 藍
On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 10:19:47 AM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding
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> I love this photo and your story so much - you gals are SISTER GOALS. It’s
> so great.
>
> I don’t think you have superfluous Rivs at ALL. In fact,
It looks like Soma has the extra long Technomic (280mm) in the same 50mm
reach as Leah's stem with a 25.4 clamp. A little on the steep side but I'd
say worth the piece of mind!
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/nitto-stem-technomic-quill-280mm-xl-25-4mm-4096?category=817
On Thursday,
"Just don't claim the Clem L "planes" over on iBOB or you'll be excommunicated."
Hehe, no worries, I excommunicated myself from that joint after some guy got
mad because I said carbon forks are stupid. Which they are!
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Leah,
I forgot to mention, I have less superfluity of bikes than it might sound. I
took the Roadini to Wales at Christmas so I could ride with my sister, and have
some personal transport while I was there, and she is kindly storing the
Roadini in her bike shed for times when I go to visit
Just don't claim the Clem L "planes" over on iBOB or you'll be
excommunicated.
On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 12:41:39 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> That's the funny thing about Cheviot v. Clem L (I've owned both): You
> would think the lighter Chev would feel more sprightly, but it's
That's the funny thing about Cheviot v. Clem L (I've owned both): You would
think the lighter Chev would feel more sprightly, but it's quite the stiff road
bike. The L with its way-low toptube has a flex in it that reacts (to my mind)
as a spring when you pedal. It's fun!
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Leah,
You are right about the Appaloosa and the Roadini.
Around the middle of 2018 when I was considering a step through, Rivendell were
out of stock of both the Cheviot and the Clem in my size, but Spencer had sent
me a sneak peak image of the new blue and green, and I liked both of them.
Dorothy - the blue saddle on the Appaloosa is . Your collection of Rivendells
is enviable; I’m so glad you sent us those photos. Thank you! If the Appaloosa
is the “windy day bike”, and I assume the Roadini is for speed, what are the
roles of the Cheviot and Clem? Is there a lot of overlap or
Joe,
I think it is more the issue of having enough hand strength to get the cables
snug enough. I live a mile from a bike shop with a great retrogrouch type bike
mechanic, and he always loves working on my bikes.
Leah,
The silver 2 shifters are really smooth and a nice ergonomic shape. My
Dorothy,
I'm using one Silver2 bar-end on my Clem L and love it. One excellent thing
about friction shifters is once you have them shifting across the whole rear
cassette and front chainrings, you're done. There's no clicks to dial in just
right so I suspect your LBS is going tell you, "You
Dorothy, this is so awesome. I love that you have learned to do all these
mechanical things. I can imagine the freedom and the confidence it must give a
person - I’m clapping for you from here. How did you learn these skills?
Online? From someone else? And how are you liking the Silver
In my case it has been a process towards becoming more willing to do stuff on
my bike. A couple of years ago, I was still having my wife put air in my tires,
whereas last night I changed my Cheviot from Choconorm handlebars and Sunrace
thumbies to Albatross bars and Silver bar end mounts and
My advice: put it at the safe height and ride it for a month. If you don’t get
used to it, well your month wasn’t perfect, but a month is a short time in
life, I hope! Then you will really know you need a taller one!
Good luck!
Edwin, who doesn’t like to change cockpits more than every couple
I’m really looking forward to hearing how it turns out for you! We’ll make sure
to put our heads together on this thread when we’ve both got our new stems. And
like I said earlier, you can get yours from Rivendell if you like!
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> On Jan 23, 2020, at 5:45 PM, aeroperf wrote:
And thank you for this thread. My Homer's stem looked exactly like Leah's
photo, and I just ordered the longer one from Soma.
The 51 frame is too small and I may yet get a different one, but at least
now I'll be able to ride without destroying the steerer tube.
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I think you should get the tall stem that SOMA was offering. Ok I know you've
already decided this, but I wanted to give my advice, too!
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Maybe you could just get your Clementine repainted!?
Might be cheaper/easier!
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You may well be right, Mas.
I called Rivendell and I asked about the Nitto 280 mm quill. They had never
heard of it so I sent them Soma’s link. Riv’s newsletter today told of a hefty
bill they have coming so I asked if Rivendell could get this stem and take my
order, and does it even help.
Leah, I think you are more or less at the limit; could you get the bars higher
or closer? Yeah, but reasonably how much difference would it make & at what
cost.
Honestly, I think you'll get a more effective upper body workout with the bars
lower and pushing & pulling the bars towards and away
Keep in mind that swapping out your current 5cm stem for an Analog
"Tanglefoort w(Right)" 0cm stem I mentioned above gets the bars 2" closer
to you. So, you might not need your bar any higher at that point. The
w(Right) stem has a 225mm shaft height, so, though I'm not sure of its max
height
Using this stem comparison tool: http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php
The Dirt Drop would be 25mm taller than the Tallux at maximum heights,
however it'd have ~15mm reach than the Tallux when raised to the
appropriate position.
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 3:30:40 PM UTC-6, Joe
Alternatively, lower your saddle to raise your bars. You may well be
surprised. My experience is this:
When doing full squats, the most powerful, sustainable push is mid-squat.
Very few people have their saddle height set so their pedal stroke matches
the middle third of a squat, yet this is
Soma evidently has the 280 length, 50 extension, 25.4 diameter in stock -
over 2 extra inches of height! I vote go for that.
Laing
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 4:33:39 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> Maybe I’m being unreasonable. If they don’t really make stems this high
>
Maybe I’m being unreasonable. If they don’t really make stems this high and we
know my bike already has a high head tube, maybe it’s not you it’s me, you know?
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> On Jan 23, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> The 8cm DirtDrop has 186mm rise above the Max Height line.
The 8cm DirtDrop has 186mm rise above the Max Height line. I don't believe this
will give her any more height than her Tallux.
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On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 10:21:11 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
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> The fork steerer tube is weakest at the threads, When you go above the
> minimum insertion line of the stem, you run the risk of the expander at the
> bottom of the stem putting pressure on the weaker threaded part of the
How about a dirt drop? You would need the 25.4 clamp version for mountain bike
style bars.
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-dirt-drop-26-0-8cm-or-10cm?variant=17940575027311
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https://www.modernbike.com/nitto-mt-10-long-quill-stem-25.4-35d-x-80-silver
this should be able to go higher than your current stem, since the extension
itself also rises. The effective reach will probably be around the 50mm point
of your current stem.
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I am in agreement. You guys have all said the same thing which is “DON’T DO
THAT!”
Knowing the risk, I’ll gladly buy the new taller stem.. if it exists! I don’t
want to be injured (again). It turns out I’m not good at that. 路♀️
Where do you find one? My cursory searches yielded nothing.
Leah: "So with all the standing I do (because I (erroneously?) believe it
gives me an upper body workout as I pull on the bars up giant hills, this
is a risky thing, huh?"
Arm and core work happens to varying degrees with every pedal stroke. The
more you pull up on the bars in opposition to
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/nitto-stem-technomic-quill-280mm-xl-25-4mm-4096?category=817
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NITTO-Nitto-MTC-04-x-225mm-SILVER-o28-6-22-2/173450990973?hash=item28627c157d:g:de0AAOSwdqJbZfOy
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It might be fine but it might not. Is it worth the risk? Stem failures can be
dangerous depending on the how and when of it. I'd buy the longer stem and do
it right to eliminate the risk and so it would be done right. Your beautiful
bike deserves it!
Chris
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Bike Touring News has a 90 extension with 26.0 bars.
Alex's Cycle in Japan says 50 extension with 25.4 bars.$59 plus shipping
Rivendell can probably order one.
Laing
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 2:04:32 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
> Laing, can you find a link for that?
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FWIW, the Nitto NTC 280 also comes in a 50mm version.
http://nitto-tokyo.sakura.ne.jp/stem-E.html
https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-stem-1
There's also using the Nitto MTC-04-225 , sometimes called the MTC-04 long,
with a threadless stem that has positive rise, rather
I'll put it this way, E calls you on the phone and says : "I'm going to
alter your sourdough recipe, just a smidge , and it will still taste even
better, trust me".
You say ... ?
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 1:11:39 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> It’s the
Okay smartypants ahahahahahahha !!!
..what do you suppose the "min. insertion" line is there for in the
first place ?
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 1:37:52 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> I say...
>
> “You better share your recipe. You owe me, kid.”
>
> Sent
Also, and im only saying this because i recently had to encounter a
handlebar raising issue that previously had been of no concern, that max
height line should be at or below the top of the headtube of the bike.
My dad had his set like right below the top nut and thought it was ok
because
Laing, can you find a link for that?
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Yes it will get you injured. Which you already did this week so no more
injuries for you!
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The problem is with the location where the expander-bolt now falls
within the steerer -- IF it's in the threaded section, its force is
creating a stress riser which gets amplified every time you hit bump.
One of the Bruce Gordon frames I salvaged had this fate befall it,
clearly a too-high stem
Nitto makes a 280 extra tall Technomic, supposedly available as short as 70
extension.
Laing
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> So with all the standing I do (because I (erroneously?) believe it gives
> me an upper body workout as I pull on
So with all the standing I do (because I (erroneously?) believe it gives me an
upper body workout as I pull on the bars up giant hills, this is a risky thing,
huh?
What does a person do if she wants higher bars? Or should I just try to adapt
to what I have?
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> On Jan 23,
I say...
“You better share your recipe. You owe me, kid.”
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> On Jan 23, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Garth wrote:
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>
>
> I'll put it this way, E calls you on the phone and says : "I'm going to
> alter your sourdough recipe, just a smidge , and it will still taste even
>
The fork steerer tube is weakest at the threads, When you go above the
minimum insertion line of the stem, you run the risk of the expander at the
bottom of the stem putting pressure on the weaker threaded part of the stem
instead of the stronger smooth part of the stem. The steerer tube could
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