Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread Joe Bernard
I prefer threadless 'cause the adjusting I actually do is headset and bar swaps. To me the only advantage (besides looks) of quill is one I don't use: raising/lowering. Once I have a quill set I don't mess with it because I don't like marks on the stem. I'd rather just go threadless. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread Patrick Moore
Of course it can't look anything like a quilled Pearl, but it might be cold forged, be designed for unobtrusive steerer clamp bolts, have a similar bar clamp, and have the same finish, no? On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:50 PM Lum Gim Fong wrote: > I dont get this. > If it is a pop top stem for an

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I dont get this. If it is a pop top stem for an aheadset steerer then it cannot look anything like a tech or pearl. Nitto already makes pop tops in silver so take your pick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch
I agree with you in theory, but: 1) I don't like the looks of the ones I've seen, and 2) they're more expensive than a stem/riser combo, especially if you need more than one stem during fitting. If you're in trial-and-error mode then modular is an advantage. But if (for example) Nitto made

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread Philip Williamson
I’m interested to see examples of your small frame - high bars bikes set up with each method. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread Ginz
But realizing that I did not comment on convenience, I will do that now. When you have a frame with a long, long steerer with huge huge stack of spacers or a highly angled stem, it becomes quite a trigonometry problem to figure out which stem angle and extension to order to make the bars do X,

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread Ginz
Ah yes! Threaded is my choice. Sorry for the error. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread Earls61
Do you mean, “threaded is my choice”? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread Ginz
On small sized frames it is awfully tough to get the bars high on a threadless setup without having a ridiculously long steerer that looks silly or an intensely sloping top tube. For a classic looking smaller frame, threadless is my choice. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-08 Thread hugh flynn
Best of both worlds is quill stem with removable face plate. Below Orange makes some. With there were more. I've "cheated" a bit and used threadless stems with quill adapters when trying to get my fit right. Once that's done, I've always replaced with a real quill just because I find the quill

[RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch
I get the best of both worlds on about half my bikes by using a threadless stem and stem riser. The stem is threadless and has a removable faceplate so I can swap the stem without stripping the bars. It's attached to a riser that's essentially a threaded quill stem without the extension. A

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread Patrick Moore
That's not too bad, I admit, but I have also to admit that I rather yearn for the pure, cold, distant beauty of a cold-forged Nitto Pearl. Can't they do that in a threadless format? Frankly, while I have no quarrel with lugs, lugs *as such* don't rock my boat, and I rather think that ornate lugs

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Here is a good looking threadless stem: https://store.somafab.com/nilust.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread Patrick Moore
I must say that this 1 cm difference in length (9 to 10) makes a surprisingly big difference in comfort, despite the weight penalty (10 grams exactly). I'll have to just live with the weight for the sake of comfort, but that's very Rivendellian-ish-ianesque, right? And the bar is now 1/4" below

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread jack loudon
I like threadless mainly because of the removable faceplate. I change out handlebars and stems way too frequently, so a removable faceplate saves a lot of bar tape unwrapping/rewrapping. Other reasons for threadless are: (a) more rigid connection with steerer tube, which I like but others may

Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread Patrick Moore
There's a big difference between fiddling and fretting. I do fretting. True about reach for quill stems. More weight on the threadless side of the equation. Or perhaps this: I swapped out stems more times with the Matthews *because* it was so easy to do with a threadless system. I recall "putting

[RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread Daniel D.
Should've made a better decision the first time swapping stems, cost for the third stem are on you not the style :p. I feel like the reach on my roadini is a little long with a 100mm stem. I'm reluctant to swap at the moment because of the hassle involved. Threadless I would've already done

[RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread 'Tom M' via RBW Owners Bunch
Patrick, Did you really type this: "And given my antipathy to fiddling"? Seriously? I read your posts precisely because they include all kinds of fiddling (off the top of my head: tire pressure, tire sealant [various kinds]; custom cassettes, varying the Q-factor, etc.) But to your main

[RBW] Re: Threadless versus threaded stems -- convenience summary

2018-11-07 Thread Drw
I just set up my first threadless bike. Late to the game, i know. At first i couldnt really believe that the fork comes off when the stem is removed, but once i got over that, it does seem somewhat simpler... especially if you know about where you want your bars. I still think i prefer