Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-02 Thread lungimsam
Jim, 1. Where do you get those Avids for $20? Which model? Their website shows a lot of cross trainer models. 2. Also, did you find you had to make an adjustment to your seatpost after installing thin gripsters? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-02 Thread lungimsam
Jim, 1. Where do you get those Avias for $20? Which model? Their website shows a lot of cross trainer models. 2. Also, did you find you had to make an adjustment to your seatpost after installing thin gripsters? Full brevet series is quite an endorsement! Worth a try! -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-02 Thread Richard
I didn't make any adjustments to my seat height after installing thin gripsters. I used Shimano A520 pedals before. Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-02 Thread Jim Bronson
Avia Peter, size 13E, at Wal-Mart. I'm on my 3rd pair. I get about 1500 miles on each pair before the spikes wear the soles down to the point that my fit is altered. Other people may be able to get more mileage out off them that don't weigh 260 and climb out of the saddle frequently. I will

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-01 Thread lungimsam
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! The outer edges and outer edge bottoms of my feet get sore during centuries with sneakers and my other regular shoes. If I pedal with different areas of the foot, the pain seems to go away. Also, I feel like my feet got wider this year for some reason.

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
In my late 30's I went from a size 12 E to 13 because I go almost exclusively barefoot all the time. Aside from pregnancy, I'm not aware of other triggers for foot growth. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:02:26 AM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote: Thanks for the suggestions,

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-01 Thread Andrew Barden
I wear NB minimalist trail running shoes at work, and during my commute. My commuter bike had MKS pedals, which worked fine, but weren't totally comfortable. I switched to thin gripsters two weeks ago. They are great. No slipping and very supportive. On Monday, June 30, 2014 6:38:32 PM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-01 Thread Daniel D.
The only problem is the cleat cover is a slippery hard plastic on the 2013 shimano shoe I have not softer rubber like the rest of the sole. Never really caused a problem and it gets ground down with use. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:06:44 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: Keeping the cleat sole

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-01 Thread Richard
I've been using Thin Gripster pedals for about 2 months now. They're one fine pedal, and with the pinned spikes, have a great grip. I was so impressed with the spikes that I bought a bag from Rivendell and installed them on my MKS Grip King pedals. Definitely an improvement, they were slippery

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-01 Thread jpp
Yes riding a spd shoe but leaving the insert works. I have seen people do it and it is fine. I personally ride in light hiking shoes that tend to have a stiffer sole then sneakers and grip well. I also know shoe companies have made specific biking shoes like Teva. Plus I have met guys

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-01 Thread Jim Bronson
False economy? Are those Tevas really that good? I would only pay $110.00 for cycling shoes specific to flat pedals if it had some very discernable differences from the cheap crosstrainers I use now. They would also have to last a very, very long time, because I can buy 5 pairs of the

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-07-01 Thread Jeff Ong
My girlfriend uses Shimano road shoes (not a super-roadie design, more of a sport-touring shoe) with the inserts still in place, on platform pedals in the stoker position of our tandem. She likes the improved stiffness. I'm not sure how grippy they are, though. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-06-30 Thread IanA
A better combination could be trail runners on sneaker pedals. For long distance riding I think I prefer to use mountain bike shoes, clipped in, but for touring it is inconvenient to carry off-the-bike footwear and cycling shoes as off bike footwear are not good (YMMV). I have done a few

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-06-30 Thread Jim Bronson
I personally use thin gripsters with Avia cross-trainers, it's been good enough for a full brevet series this spring. The shoes cost less than $20 for a pair. On Jun 30, 2014 6:19 PM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: A better combination could be trail runners on sneaker pedals. For long

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-06-30 Thread Dave Brandt
I road with Adidas Sambas for several years and have now switched to Adidas Bouldering shoes. They give extra support in the sole so the foot doesn't flex downward. I am very happy with them and I definitely recommend them.

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-06-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Per Ian's prompting, here is my take on pedals: Based on my experience, there is no reason a stiff soled shoe is required except for compensating for weak feet -- and doing so misses an opportunity to strengthen your feet. -- I use VP Vice and VO Sabot. I do not notice a practicable difference

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-06-30 Thread Jim Bronson
Barefoot? Do you take the spikes out of the pedals you use? I can clearly see the spikes in the pics of the VP Vice. Btw what is the difference between the VP Vice and the VP-001 aka Thin Gripster? Is the Vice larger? On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-06-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yes, I use broad, flat pedals. No, my theory does not require small pedals. When I run barefoot my whole forefoot, outside foot, and heel contact the ground at the respective times. The foot is designed to land (when running) on the forefoot. I suppose if one views the shoe as an extension of

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-06-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yes, I remove the spikes, on at least one side. Currently I only have 4 of the rounded spikes that come with the Sabot pedals on one side, for when I wear shoes with the QB. The VP Vice has a slightly more congruous surface pattern (smaller holes) than the Thin Gripster, which I have not

[RBW] Re: Touring click in shoes without using the click in on platforms/rat traps feasable?

2014-06-29 Thread Joe Bernard
My guess would be no. Non-clip/click pedals rely on a reasonable amount of compression in the bottom of the shoe to create a bit of 'bite' on the pedal platform. I suspect a clipless-design shoe would be too hard and slip around on those pedals. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Sunday, June 29,