[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-08-05 Thread BenG
RCW, I too spent some time in music. Do you remember hearing a universal tuning note called A440? Meaning the string, or whatever, moves 440 cycles per second. So braking causes some components on your bike to vibrate at the frequencies called high D (faster) and low E (slower). I spent less

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-08-01 Thread Takashi
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wyeArXiZAbU/U9tXVgqEFfI/AAc/eRkTnxI4gv4/s1600/belleville.jpg tires might function to increase amplitude at certain frequencies like the body of a violin (32 pasela) compared to a cello (55 big ben). I have no idea why pitch is so different, but as

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-08-01 Thread Ron Mc
On Friday, August 1, 2014 4:02:25 AM UTC-5, Takashi wrote: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wyeArXiZAbU/U9tXVgqEFfI/AAc/eRkTnxI4gv4/s1600/belleville.jpg tires might function to increase amplitude at certain frequencies like the body of a violin (32 pasela) compared to a cello

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-08-01 Thread Liesl
I am laughing because I played viola in my youth; no slight intended, I assure you! so perhaps Pasela 32's = violins Soma Xpress 38's=violas Hetres 42's = cellos Big bens 55=basses This might support my totally unfounded theory about the tone. Spoke length or rim circumference would be

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wet plus insanely steep grade single track on the Continental Divide Trail gave me some spectacular tones and pulsing beats as the brakes were clenched near full. But I was paying more attention to the trail and rocks and thousand foot drops should I bungle it, so I have no idea the tone (and

Re: [RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-30 Thread Zack B
When brakes squeal the spokes in the wheel act like strings on a musical instrument. If you want it to stop, and don't want a huge amount of playing around with it, just install a brake booster. On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:29 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: To get the ball rolling I'll guess

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-30 Thread George Schick
A timely topic for discussion, this is. I've recently encountered the same problem on one of my bikes. It is a Surly 1x1 and for years I've had a problem mounting a rear fender because the arms on the run-of-the-mill Shimano linear pull brake aren't long enough to accommodate both a fender

RE: [RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-30 Thread Larry Powers
-0700 From: bhim...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal A timely topic for discussion, this is. I've recently encountered the same problem on one of my bikes. It is a Surly 1x1 and for years I've had a problem mounting a rear fender because

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
Dear RCW, I don't like brake squeal. I don't like it so much that I never focus on what the pitch is. I'm too busy not liking it. Of course I can't carry a tune in a bucket, and mostly don't hear out of my left ear (need surgery but resist out of general life long cowardice and allergy to

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-29 Thread dougP
To get the ball rolling I'll guess wheel diameter but have no technical basis for that thought. Probably a lot of variables involved. dougP On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:02:32 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Riddle me this, Batman! What causes different pitches in brake squeal? (I got to

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-29 Thread Garth
I've used canti's for along time and never experienced a squeal I could not remedy until I started using Kool Stop Salmon pads , the smooth posted Eagle 2. As a last resort, I shortened them, cutting off the tail end(where the second channel is, use that a guide and cut right there).

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-29 Thread Liesl
I perhaps should have mentioned that I don't mind the squeal and that both bikes are stopping just fine. Mark Abele installed the Pauls just 4 months ago, and IMO he's the bomb as far as brake set-ups go. I am more struck, mostly as a musician, that the pitch is so different. I might wonder

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-29 Thread Ron Mc
The Kool Stop Dura Cartridge holders (for caliper brakes) when new are completely self-aligning - they come from the package with a concave shape that automatically aligns toe and flatness (if you follow the directions). It's because of the nifty spherical washer and ball socket which Grant

[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-07-29 Thread Garth
Isn't that the truth ! Have some F U N :-)) On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:25:55 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Mostly I am having fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving