I have spent the last few days reading a lot about Sam Hillborne! It seems
clear that people really do love this bike. Sam seems like a bike that can
do many things, though perhaps it is best suited to being somewhat of a
workhorse bike - taking people and their gear to work, around town, or
I really do appreciate everyone for sharing their thoughts on this topic.
It seems as though most people who have a Sam mostly use it for carrying a
bag or two. However, if one desired, it is possible, given the proper
wheels and tires, to make this bike a go-fastish bike, though this is
I think at the end of a 50 mile day, you'd be happier on a Sam with 38mm
tires than the go-fast bike with 25mm. You will find the bike plenty
quick and the 38 (even forty) will serve to smooth out the roads rather
than slow you down. It is argued that on most roads you will actually be
more
I doubt there's an ideal bar for s Sam, as there is no ideal build for a Sam.
The versatility is the virtue. If you want to sit up and watch the scenery, and
Albatross or similar would be great. For fast-ish road riding it's hard to beat
drops. Wide Noodles with interrupter levers feel
Fastish club ride around here pretty much means fit riders on racing
frames with skinny tires and no more luggage than a spare tube and a CO2
cartridge, going hell-bent-for leather. I wouldn't use a Sam for that kind
of riding, that's why Riv sells Roadeos, and why I keep a dedicated go-fast
I'd go with a (lugged) Boulder Bike Randonneur for a comfortable and speedy
off the rack bike. But I just told a friend to look into the Sam (looking
for an all-rounder/S24O bike) and BOOM, he ordered one!
Also the pretty blue Sam w/ cream headtube is currently at a pre-order
discount (same
The Homer/Romulus comparison is accurate. I've owned both, and they felt
practically identical.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:51:18 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:
I own one of the original green Sams, 56. I'm very close to you in height
and build. 5'10, PBH 87. I run
Sean,
I have a 56 Hillborne, single top tube, that I have had for nearly 3
years. For the first 2 years it was set up with a touring wheelset,
fenders, kickstand, front and rear nitto racks to hold small and large
trunksacks. Before buying the Hillborne, I test rode a Novara
Randonee and a
I had a 56 Sam STT and for me it was definitely more of a country
bike than a go fast-ish bike. Started with roly-polys and Noodles but
the tires just felt too narrow. Switched to Marathons then threw in
the towel. I ended up getting a Ram as the go fast-ish and saving the
pennies for the AHH as
Joe,
Good to know. No plans to get one right now, but if I'm relieved to learn
that if I am separated from the Rom by some misfortune or *force majeure *that
there is a worthy replacement.
D.G.
On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:38:04 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
The Homer/Romulus comparison
Hillborne is a complete dog going to work. It wants to head to the
hills, the creek, down random streets it's never been down before, the
ocean 40 miles away...anywhere but work! Takes all my bike whispering
skills to keep it pointed in the right direction. Now, going home is
a different story.
I'm in that same frame of mind and height etc. oddly.I own a fully
decked out Surly Trucker and a Rivendell SimpleOne plus an old Raleigh
that I can rob parts from for a Sam Hill making it my go faster
geared bicycle. I enjoy the versatility of the Trucker but I thought
of selling it toward
Sean,
I just turned 45 and commute on a 56cm Sam pretty much every day.
Commute is 15 miles RT, mostly flat in semi-urban traffic. I am 5'11
and 165-170 lbs.
With Noodles, 32 mm Supremes and a large saddlebag I average about
18-20 mph on the longer flat sections of my commute, sometimes more or
When I have my Sam set up without racks and noodles it goes fastish. A
light wheel set makes all the difference in my mind. With that set up
I can keep up with my slower roadie friends.
It is a wonderfully versatile bike as I have also thrown racks on and
toured for weeks on end. That said you
I did a ride last night on my Sam, 19 mph average for about 22 miles,
fairly flat. I have it set up with bar end friction shifters, noodles,
pari moto tires on 36 spoke, velocity dyad/phil rivy 7 speed hub wheels. I
wouldn't say it is a go fast bike, but if you want to push it you certainly
I think of my 650B Sam as a Volvo station wagon.
I don't really know for going fast, but as my commute bike I always
thought the Sam was relatively fast. I could squeeze out my 25 mile
commute in just a smudge under an hour and fifteen minutes, fully
loaded with laptop, tools, clothes, whatever.
I own one of the original green Sams, 56. I'm very close to you in height
and build. 5'10, PBH 87. I run Mavic A719s with Jack Brown Blue tires.
This bike is a wonderful commuter, set up with Noodles and a small front
rack and large rear. I have done two centuries on it. I also have a
There are Volvo station wagons, and then there are Volvo station
wagonshttp://www.t5r.org/pages/frameset.htm
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Burton burtonfl...@gmail.com wrote:
I think of my 650B Sam as a Volvo station wagon.
I don't really know for going fast, but as my commute bike I
This is oddI own a mid 80's race bike Flandria built with Campy
parts and skinny 25mm tires. I think it tips the scale at around 22
pounds but the frame is way too light for me and the tires too narrow.
On smooth flat pavement its pretty fast but honestly I don't think any
faster than one of
http://bikeraceinfo.com/tech/weight.html
This makes sense to me.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:10 PM, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
This is oddI own a mid 80's race bike Flandria built with Campy
parts and skinny 25mm tires. I think it tips the scale at around 22
pounds but the frame is
Makes sense to me as well.Being 257 I'd probably come in about 25
minutes slower in the climb the article mentioned. That settles it,
I'm losing my racing fantasies right now plus I'd probably break one
of those lightweight road bikes anyway.
On Mar 27, 8:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE
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