[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2020-03-16 Thread Angelo Gatti
Just saw this as I am in search of canti brakes without having to break the bank with the likes of Paul's or Velo Orange (as nice as they are...). I notices the 980's and am wondering what your experience has been with these. On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:38:49 PM UTC-4, Bill

Re: [RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2019-03-25 Thread David Hays
Thanks. Just found this: http://www.cyclofiend.com/notes/bsfaq.html Identifying the year of my bike as well. > On Mar 25, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Dave Redmon wrote: > > My 1991 frame was black and said Synergy. The 1992 frame was dark green, as I >

Re: [RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2019-03-25 Thread Dave Redmon
My 1991 frame was black and said Synergy. The 1992 frame was dark green, as I recall. On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 1:34 PM David Hays <23writ...@gmail.com wrote: > My RB-T says Synergy on the crossbar and the last of the serial number is > 0121039. Anyone know what year this would be? > Thanks > David

Re: [RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2019-03-25 Thread David Hays
My RB-T says Synergy on the crossbar and the last of the serial number is 0121039. Anyone know what year this would be? Thanks David Hays Williamsville, New York > On Mar 25, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Dave Redmon wrote: > > My 1991 RB-T bike was stolen a couple years and I found a 1994 RB-T to >

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2019-03-25 Thread Dave Redmon
My 1991 RB-T bike was stolen a couple years and I found a 1994 RB-T to replace it. Cantilever post widths are significantly different. I can fit a number of brakes to my 1994 fork that would not fit my 1991 fork. Dave in Kansas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2019-03-25 Thread David Hays
Does anybody know if these will work with the RB-T? Thanks. David Hays Williamsville, New York On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:38:49 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I've got a road build coming up that will use cantilever brakes. I've got > a TON of cantilever brakes in my stash, but even

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-29 Thread Garth
Max, Apparently my reply may have been misread as I pointed to the *CR710* *for narrow spacing(they are designed for cross bikes with 33mm+/- tires)*, not the 720. The 710 costs about $20-25 each.

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-29 Thread phil k
Got a pair in. So far it's been a breeze to set up, but I ditched the straddle hanger for moon units. The spring tension seems pretty even out the box. Did not have to adjust spring tension at all so far. So in that sense, it was just slightly easier to set up than the Paul Neo Retros. Can

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-29 Thread Max S
Garth, I agree that the 720 is a good brake and a good value. In fact I have it installed on one bike, but had to move all of the spacers / washers to the outboard side of the pad holder bolt, because the canti posts are closer to each other than currently standard. It actually works fine,

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-29 Thread Belopsky
FYI these work better than other brakes I've had, but perhaps it's the lever. I have not put KoolStop pads on the Dia Compe 980 yet. Any suggestions for which? I am thinking just the Supra, same as I have on some V-brakes unless there is a better type to use on V-brakes and I'll swap -- You

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-29 Thread Garth
Max, Any cantilever intended for a cyclocross frame is by nature for narrow spacing. You might try a Tektro CR 710 for example. These are easy on the pocketbook AND work well. I replace all Tektro pads with Kool Stop blacks or salmons even before installing. I have this brake on my Bomba

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
It depends somewhat on rim width, but I think around 80-85 is generally what most v-brake/canti posts are set at these days? Builders will know, but I believe I read 80mm suggested on a framebuilding forum (Curt Goodrich?). That's what I used for my spacing when I redid some posts for a

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-28 Thread Max S
What’s the optimum post spacing (on fork and stays) for these?.. - Max “they don’t make them for narrow posts anymore” in A2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

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2018-08-26 Thread Belopsky
Ride report: Seem to work well. I'll swap for Kool Stop pads eventually. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-26 Thread Belopsky
Nice! I got my set it from RBW yesterday and installed today. Going to take a bike around the block and report back on how well they work with Tektro RL340 levers.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-24 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 4:44:37 AM UTC-4, R. Alexis wrote: *Don't know why Dia-Compe didn't come up with a different model# for these brakes* . I have been thinking the same thing, as they have no relationship to the original other than the name of the company that makes them. Both

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-24 Thread Paul Clifton
Got it. I noticed the canti clarification as I clicked post, but I still wasn't sure why it mattered. Makes sense now. My canti conversion to 622 is the worst stopping bike I have, but there are so many potential reasons for that (pads aren't nice, cable hangers are whack, straddle cable hanger

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
Igor asked which brake levers I’ll be using. I will use either SRAM S500 or S900. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-23 Thread Belopsky
What brake levers do you plan on using with these brakes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-23 Thread lconley
If I can remove the branding with Simichrome, I usually do. - Tektros were usually good for that before they started using paint instead of polishing the aluminum. IRD derailleur clamps and Microshift derailleurs too. I remember the old Universal brakes that put blue paint in the recessed

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
I took one bare arm and my smallest file with me on my commute today for some meditative filing. I knocked out the forge parting lines pretty quickly. Now is time for the biggest aesthetic decision: Do I remove the "Dia Compe" that is forged in? It's not deep, so it wouldn't be terribly

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-23 Thread Harald Kliems
I'll be curious to hear how they compare with Tektro CR-720s. I'm reasonably happy with mine, but the Diacompes are certainly prettier and also shave off a bit of weight. And people have complained that the Tektro has too much flex/play. Harald in Madison (WI) On Wednesday, August 22, 2018

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-23 Thread R. Alexis
The new Dia-Compe 980 brakes look interesting. I have the original Dia-Compe 980 brakes, http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=D2AA4D24-29A3-4F50-B3CD-C789F21E144E=117=144 in use on my 1994 Bridgestone MB-1 retro build and on my 1987 Schwinn Voyageur 27" to 700c conversion. Don't know why

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
Haha, don't worry about it. It's just a few old timers trying to show off how much we know. Nobody has said 'get off my lawn' yet. The Riv-content remains: Dia Compe 980 brakes are subjectively nice looking, objectively light weight, objectively inexpensive, and objectively in-stock at

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread John G.
I think I hijacked this thread. Apologies. I’ll DM next time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread Craig Montgomery
I've converted 3 or 4 27" canti-bikes to 700c over the decades. Zoomed down mountains fully-loaded. Never died. Craig in Tucson On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 3:17:40 PM UTC-7, lconley wrote: > > The difference between 622 and 630 is 8mm in diameter and 4mm in radius. > The 622 pad will be

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread lconley
The difference between 622 and 630 is 8mm in diameter and 4mm in radius. The 622 pad will be 4 mm (1/6 inch) closer to the canti post than the 630. If it is within the range of the standard slot for pad mounting, it is not a problem - every pad slot on a brake arm that I have seen was

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
Compass brakes are $300 for two wheels. Dia Compe 980s are $52 for two wheels. The price difference is $248. If the weight difference is 7g per wheel, then that would make that $17.71 per gram. When I'm going weight weenie, I'm looking for $1/gram opportunities. If I can throw $450 at my

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
Paul Please don't misunderstand me. I specifically referred to converting from 27" to 700c on cantilever equipped frames. If the cantilever posts are in the right place for 630mm rims, you have to run the pads quite low for 622mm rims and the mechanical advantage gets all messed up, forcing

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread Paul Clifton
Hey Bill, What are the compromises converting 27 to 700? I've never had a problem with it, and I can fit fatter tires, but I've only done it to a couple bikes. Paul in ATL On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 2:15:45 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I have no specific thoughts about the 980

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread Belopsky
Very cool. I bet they stop well and are 1/4th the price of Paul. RBW seems to be the cheapest place (and one of the only online from what i've found) to stock at current -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread John G.
Thanks. You're right. I revisit the idea of a 630 to 622 conversion periodically, and always walk away immediately. In any case, looking forward to your thoughts on the 980s on your road build. On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 2:15:45 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I have no specific

[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

2018-08-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
I have no specific thoughts about the 980 suitability for a 630 to 622 conversion. My general thoughts are that 630 to 622 conversions with cantilever brakes are always massively compromised, and I'd personally never bother with such a project. If I was helping a friend who was dead-set on