[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-18 Thread Andrew Stevens
Salsa ran out of their 2020 allotment in mid April, purportedly. We ordered Surlys in August, and werent given the option of sizes/models, just paid for a certain number of bikes, with a delivery timeframe is "October-February." All Surly completes have been pre-allotted to bike shops through

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-15 Thread Mark Roland
The company I work for uses kanban to determine what parts to fabricate. These are then used to build a number of different final products. This is a bit more complicated, since Rivendell doesn't actually make anything (except maybe saddle goop). They also can't really practice Just in Time

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread dougP
Last century, the Japanese figured out "just in time" inventory. The mantra was "inventory is evil", meaning better to have the money in the bank than tied up in parts. The model of announcement then pre-sale then delivery takes that to the next step. Increases cash flow & reduces storage

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread Jason Fuller
I know that this group of folks see Rivendells as immensely practical bikes, which they are, but they're also boutique, premium bikes. With this in mind I think it's pretty reasonable that one would pick out the frameset they want, save up the money, and wait for availability and be ready to go

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread Collin A
Its a bummer that you have to know you want the bike, the correct size, and know when it will be released, all without doing a test ride on a $1500+ frame. I was lucky when I bought my first Riv that I was able to test ride a Hunqapillar, Clem, and Sam to figure out size and feel. Seems like

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread Brady Smith
The Riv model is hard to explain to non bike nerds. I made a half -hearted effort at convincing my wife to let me replace my Jamis Aurora frame with a Sam when they were about to go live and she said something to the effect of “Why not just wait and make sure we don’t need this $1500 for

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Mike: Wow, this is fascinating. I wondered what would become of the bike boom after the pandemic. I world that gives more priority to bicycles is a world I can look forward to! Bikes at Rivendell... My mom’s neighbors love to bike. They biked across the entire US, coast to coast so they are

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread Jim M.
On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 11:14:03 AM UTC-8 velomann wrote: > Have you been to your LBS recently? Yes, RBW is my LBS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread Joe Bernard
I understand the reasoning for Riv to be out of bikes to sell, I'm just biased and don't like it. I think they're the greatest bicycles in the world and everyine in a bike boom should be going to shops full of them (like Schwinn when I was a kid) and buying them! On Saturday, November 14,

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread velomann
Have you been to your LBS recently? This is definitely not exclusive to Rivendell. At least here in PDX the demand continues to exceed supply, and the small repair shop I fill in for has been chronically unable to get basic parts from QBP since early summer. I've sold more bikes on CL, more

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread Marc Irwin
Bikes are selling out everywhere in the world. The local shop around the corner from me usually keeps about 300 in stock. They now have about 20 thanks to a fall shipment. It's a generally good thing I think. On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:26:54 PM UTC-5 Jim M. wrote: > Anyone else

Re: [RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-14 Thread Ben Mihovk
Isn't trying to keep a bunch of frames/products in stock at all times part of what got them into financial trouble in 2018? Grant is pretty clear about how big he wants Rivendell to be (and how big he doesn't want it to get). I don't know if this number is still the target, but I've read or

Re: [RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-13 Thread Jason Fuller
Rivendell, Crust, and bike brands of that size all operate on a budget that doesn't allow any significant inventory - pre-sales and ensuring batches are sold swiftly is key to keeping the budget balanced -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-13 Thread rltilley
Tumbleweed is about to get a batch of frames in and they don’t expect any more to come in until next summer. Sourcing is getting tougher. Even getting parts for appliance repairs is a pain. We need to get our washer fixed and our repair guy says it’s crazy how hard it is to get any parts now.

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-13 Thread Mark Roland
Bikes are mostly out of stock everywhere. Riv is lucky to be getting semi regular production runs shipped to them. Still hard to find many parts, too. Not sure what forum or thread, but I pointed out that Rivendell's business model has been going this way--batch shipments of a single model,

[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

2020-11-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Demand is nice but I'm not sure it's good that they can't keep up with it. You can't sell bikes you don't have. On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:26:54 PM UTC-8 Jim M. wrote: > Anyone else notice that bikes are mostly out of stock at RBW? I'm not sure > if that's a good thing (they're