I like the A23 rims as a lighter faster rim, but it is harder to
mount tires on them compared to the Synergy rim, for which I don't
need tools to mount a tire. Whereas, with the A23s, I definitely need
levers. This means longer flat repair times for me, but maybe it will
get easier as the tires
Toshi,
Is this with 650b or 700c tires?
On May 23, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:
I like the A23 rims as a lighter faster rim, but it is harder to
mount tires on them compared to the Synergy rim, for which I don't
need tools to mount a tire. Whereas, with the
This is my experience with 700c rims--maybe it doesn't translate to
650b--Leslie?
Toshi
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
Toshi,
Is this with 650b or 700c tires?
On May 23, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:
I like the A23 rims as a
Tires do fit more snugly on the 650B version of the A23 than on my Velocity
Synergies in 650b. That is a very very good thing, in my opinion. The
only significant shortcoming of Velocity Synergies in my opinion is that
it's very difficult to get tires to run straight on them. The A23 is a
On Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:12:52 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote:
This is my experience with 700c rims--maybe it doesn't translate to
650b--Leslie?
Toshi, my experience is about the same as yours: it depends on both the
rim, and which tire you're mounting.
My 700c Dyads have, overall, been the
I do not know if they are still made in the 650B size.
I do not know the width
That said - The Velocity Dyad is a world beater rim for a commuting bike
On Friday, May 17, 2013 1:47:09 PM UTC+10, Michael wrote:
Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b.
What's a good upgrade?
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Based on the variety of answers, a good question might be, what, in your
instance, constitutes an upgrade? Weight, strength, finish? Kind of
reminds me of Keith Bontrager's famous statement about bike parts--strong,
light, cheap--choose two.
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47:09 PM UTC-4,
maybe from a cross section profile, but the Dyad is a stronger rim than the
Synergy. It's more like the Atlas in function.
~mike
On Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:42:37 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
The Atlas is like a beefed-up Synergy; the A23 is like a lighter Dyad.
I haven't had any problems from
On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote:
maybe from a cross section profile, but the Dyad is a stronger rim than
the Synergy. It's more like the Atlas in function.
Oh, I agree... I'm running 700c Dyads, and wish the 650b ones were still
available.My first 650b
If I were up-grading, I would begin with tires. Choose lighter more
supple. That rules out cheaper but not necessarily more flat resistant.
Next I would look at hubs, unless I had a really substandard rim. If you
listen to experienced wheel builders they all rate Mavic and Velocity rims
Not sure if Dyad rims are available in sizes other than 700c but I like
mine fine and I am 260 lbs. I use Delta Cruiser tires however so they are
only about 36mm wide at around 75-80 psi. I'd prefer wider but not enough
room under the fenders with my Hillborne. The Dyad rim was recommended to
He wanted 650B rims. Velocity made a run of Dyads in 650B ( I have a set)
but they are no longer available. The Atlas is the closest thing.
~mike
On Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:57:35 AM UTC-7, charlie wrote:
Not sure if Dyad rims are available in sizes other than 700c but I like
mine fine and I
I had to get a replacement Synergy OCR rim from Velocity because the
original rim cracked around several of the eyelets. I've also found that
the Synergy rims in 650b are not very consistent in their diameter.
Different Synergy rims that I've purchased at different times have varied
in outer
The Atlas is like a beefed-up Synergy; the A23 is like a lighter Dyad.
I haven't had any problems from my Synergies, but I like my A23 rims, and
intend to keep building on them now.
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I like my A23 rims (650b) that I got from Anthony @ Longleaf; I wish the
Dyad was still available in 650b, tho'
The Atlas looks like it would be an 'upgrade', but it's going to be wider,
tho'...
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
Don't want a wider rim. Same
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:47:09 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
What's a good upgrade?
What's wrong with Synergy's that you think they need to be upgraded? They
are the favorite rim of RBW's wheel builder, so I'm not sure what could be
more Riv-ish.
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I also have A23s. And one remaining Aerohead.
(more than one 650B bike...)
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:47:09 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b.
What's a good upgrade?
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I'm with the Jims! I have two pairs of riv-built synergy rims on a 2006
saluki and a 2008 protobleriot. no cracks, no problems, no need for an
upgrade.
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I know cracking around the eyelets is/was? an issue but it cant be that
every set of synergy rims are cracking around the eyelets. Was it only an
issue with the Non-symmetrical rear setup? Mine have carried my generously
large body for a while with no issues, granted I only do about 1k miles a
Here are the answers to the questions you all had.
A: My rims are fine now. I don't want to upgrade yet, but will whenever
they need it. That's why I wanted to know. Maybe by then there will be
something new on the market anyway.
A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 13:30 -0700, Michael wrote:
A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires and any
wider and they won't fit under my Longboards.
I am under the impression that the same tire on a wider rim will be
wider when inflated.
We should get empiric confirmation of the
My experience has shown that a wider rim with the same tire results in the
same, if not slightly lower profile(height) tire. It definitely does not
get taller !
On Friday, May 17, 2013 4:30:36 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
Here are the answers to the questions you all had.
A: My rims
No real horses in this race, but
1) Atlas is a stout rim
2) Pacenti (PL23 i presume???) is a weight-weenie rim
3) Synergy, what's the problem again???
4) A23: the great unknown, to me.
On 5/17/13, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
My experience has shown that a wider rim with the same tire
Red Hetres on Atlas rim: Front 40.5mm / Rear 41.6mm. Difference is likely due
to having a higher pressure on the rear tire.
René
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On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 13:30 -0700, Michael wrote:
A: I
Forgot to add that front Atlas rim is 32 holes and rear is 36. Should be
irrelevant, but just in case. External rim width is the same for both: 25.5mm
René
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On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
No real horses in this race, but
1)
Pacenti PL23
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b.
What's a good upgrade?
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On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 17:22 -0700, René Sterental wrote:
Red Hetres on Atlas rim: Front 40.5mm / Rear 41.6mm. Difference is
likely due to having a higher pressure on the rear tire.
Thank you!
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