@Jan,
Thanks so much for the info!
On a brevet I'd definitely want the fastest tire so as not to add to the
difficulty of the ride.
Would make the ride much more enjoyable to breeze along rather than
to spend the ride fighting against draggy tires.
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Wait a second...8-9 hour time difference in PBP - all things being equal
except for the tires?
That is huge.
By the way, I am not hung up on speed or anything. I am not a racer. But I
do believe that one shouldn't make the ride any harder on themselves than
it already is by adding
To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask yourself,
would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about them or brag
in any way about them to anyone? Finally, Jan has adapted to super long
rides or he must be an alienhowever I like his most recent bicycle
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:08:26 AM UTC-8, charlie wrote:
To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask
yourself, would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about
them or brag in any way about them to anyone?
I remember Grant had a blog post about
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:08:26 AM UTC-5, charlie wrote:
To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask
yourself, would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about
them or brag in any way about them to anyone?
The answer would be a resounding yes for
On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 06:09 -0800, Mike wrote:
I remember Grant had a blog post about that earlier this year. I sent
him an email saying that while I frequently engaged in rides of 80+
miles a lot of this has to do with the fact that I don't drive. I live
in Portland, OR and if I want to check
I wish I had both the conditioning and the time to ride 50 miles at a clip.
I can usually escape for 20 milers, though and it is refreshing to clear
your head and just focus on the ride instead of all the other crap in your
daily life so I can see doing more at a time one day.
On Wed, Dec 12,
At a certain fitness level (in terms of both overall training for
distance) rides in the 80-100 mile range are simply ordinary rides,
Exactly. And I would add, I don't do any specific training for
randonneuring. I don't do intervals. I don't have set training schedules
where all my
On Dec 11, 9:53 pm, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Base on Jan's post, it sounds like riding a light, fast tire on a Rando
would be better than puncture protected heavier tires due to fasterness of
tire and making the ride easier?
I wouldn't mind having to change a flat on a Rando as
I'll echo everything Mike has written here. I'll add something simple:
ADVENTURE.
Brevets are always an adventure. There's always a tad of doubt and
suffering. Exploring is poking around the hills and stopping to make tea.
Adventure holds some risk, and its rewards are deeply internal -
I don't think people need to be stuck in buckets in the sense that you
must have fun every time you get on a bike. (I believe) Grant's point
is not to label people and the reasons they get on bikes. The point
is, if you are not just riding because you believe you need to ride
so far or suffer so
On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:35, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll echo everything Mike has written here. I'll add something simple:
ADVENTURE.
Exactly!
Someone (on a brevet, I think) told me: If you don't wish you were somewhere
else at least once, it's not really an adventure.
More and
I've been randonneuring for the past 5 years and love it. I actually came
to randonneuring and Rivendell at the same time, shortly after moving to
Portland and just looking for rides and routes in the area. My first event
was a 100k populaire in the fall of 2007. I was hooked from that first
It's all relative to your personality and ability. I constantly run into
people who are amazed that I can ride 15 miles, but they probably haven't
ridden a bike since they were 8 and have the memory of a child on an ill
fit department store cruiser. On the other hand, I will usually go for
Subject: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
It's all relative to your personality and ability. I constantly run into
people
who are amazed that I can ride 15 miles, but they probably haven't ridden a
bike
since they were 8 and have the memory of a child on an ill fit department store
cruiser
I agree with you Marc, to each his/her own. A 65 mile ride, especially on a
charity ride where I have friends and family along, is absolutely perfect
for me. It is enough that I feel like I rode but it isn't enough that I
have to take the next day off or anything.
I have been hitting the
Lots of others have spoken eloquently about why the miles and the
suffering. I can only say, ditto. I love riding bicycles, and the more
time I spend on a bicycle, the happier I am. Sure, there are points where
you get tired and sore, so you rest for a bit and recover. It's amazing to
me how
You forgot to mention some funny parts, like how our abnormally fast tempo
paceline + unusually dense fog layer in Pt. Reyes = missed turn (twice)
towards Nicasio.
Or my flat tire + Mike at Black Mountain Cycles=visit to a piece of
mountain biking history.
Or 12 tall handlebar bag full of
note to self: dont upset the randoneur riders, they take this very
seriously.
joe
On Monday, December 10, 2012 2:38:44 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
Got to tag along with some SF Randonndeurs, Ely from Ruth Bags, Ray from
Mission Bags and David on their Jittery Jaunt 200k Permanent that
There's fun and there's fun. Or, as my friend Einar puts it... type 2 fun.
That is where it is more fun afterward (finishing), than during. And
sometimes it is like that. I can think of a few truly spectacular bonks
that if I had not had a great riding partner, I'd have been done for. I am
@Jim and Steve:
Thanks for the tips and resource links.
I am in Ellicott City, MD area.
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Base on Jan's post, it sounds like riding a light, fast tire on a Rando
would be better than puncture protected heavier tires due to fasterness of
tire and making the ride easier?
I wouldn't mind having to change a flat on a Rando as much as I would on a
commute to work. So maybe I can
Sounds like you're hooked after one ride. Awesome.
On Monday, December 10, 2012 12:38:44 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
Got to tag along with some SF Randonndeurs, Ely from Ruth Bags, Ray from
Mission Bags and David on their Jittery Jaunt 200k Permanent that took us
to the small town of
I used to regularly do a Double Gap Century ride that was actually 113
mies with two major climbs and lots of big hills. Now I wonder why? I
really enjoy two hours of riding, three hours is fine, but when I cross the
four hour mark, I just want off the bike. At that point I'm no longer
And yet you would not think from reading BQ that radonneurs hate their
pastime -- where 200 km is just a short, everyday jaunt.
Me, as the man said, I'd rather stick a pencil in my eye. But to
each his own. I like hills (short ones).
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Michael Hechmer
Randonneuring and Fun:
It all depends how and with whom you ride. Having participated in four
Paris-Brest-Paris, I have observed the finishers from the fast 50-hour
riders until the 92-hour stragglers who arrive outside the time
limit.
At the front, the finishers look like people after a bike
P.S.: I wrote an pretty honest account of the Raid Pyreneen, which I
rode a few weeks after Paris-Brest-Paris in 2011. You can find it
online at
http://www.bikequarterly.com/sample_articles.html
I can assure you that if it wasn't fun, I wouldn't do it.
Jan Heine
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Whether one rides one mile or two hundred miles . to whom does one
compare but to themselves ?
Thus every ride is what one chooses to make of it :)
No ride too far no ride too short for in truth we go nowhere but
places of the hearts mind
I ride for no other reason
On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 07:37 -0800, Jan Heine wrote:
The lows, as long as they are limited, make the ups so much more
enjoyable. Seeing the sun rise after having ridden all night is a
powerful feeling. Cresting a mountain pass under a full moon is
something you won't experience unless you are a
Manny:
As always, thanks for the photos. To your question of Why?, my
observation is that there is a tremendous variation among riders regarding
when we are done, i.e., ready to be off the bike into something else.
I recall finishing a century many years ago feeling much as you describe.
The Jittery Jaunt is a very very fun ride. It's a fabulous way to spend a
day.
On Sunday, December 9, 2012 11:38:44 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
Got to tag along with some SF Randonndeurs, Ely from Ruth Bags, Ray from
Mission Bags and David on their Jittery Jaunt 200k Permanent that took
I have done a 75 miles ride this year. Had a great time, but started
getting sloppy with my handling and tired at the end. No training, just my
small commutes. We took two breaks.
I was thinking, if we were gonna push for 100, I'd probably need two
breaks for the last 25 miles.
I
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to do some touring, but don't know anyone in the area who does
it who could show me the ropes.
I bet that at least 50% of the people on this list who have toured
didn't have anyone to show them the ropes the
On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 14:31 -0800, Michael wrote:
I would like to do some touring, but don't know anyone in the area who
does it who could show me the ropes.
Where are you located?
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On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 14:41 -0800, Jim Mather wrote:
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to do some touring, but don't know anyone in the area who does
it who could show me the ropes.
I bet that at least 50% of the people on this list who
Over the years, I've met lots of people on tour who are on old MTBs, racing
bikes with P-clamped on racks, crappy luggage who are having the time of
their lives. The common thread is a sense of adventure. They just used
what they had on hand made it up as they went along. Start with an
Awesome picts Manny! Thanks for sharing, I've often wondered why some
cyclists go to the extreme, seeing those photos make me want to ride over
the horizon and just keep on going!
On Sunday, December 9, 2012 11:38:44 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
Got to tag along with some SF Randonndeurs,
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to do some touring, but don't know anyone in the area who does
it who could show me the ropes.
I bet that at least 50% of the people on
Fantastic photos, Manny! I, for one, find your story more inspiring than
discouraging. At any rate, I plan to ride farther than usual this coming
weekend!
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