I've told this anecdote many times before, but don't let that stop me. I
once carried 50 lb on a Tubus Fly attached to a lightweight -- noticeably
lighter than my Riv Roads -- 531 1973 Motobecane Grand Record (brake bridge
mounting and the frame had fender eyelets IIRC). It handled such loads
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 3:42:11 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
I used to put my work kit into a shoulder bag and put that bag into my
Carradice Camper Longflap; I still don't understand the advantages of a big
front basket except that you don't need to undo and re-do straps.
Probably
The marmot abides.
On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-8 Jacob Kersey wrote:
> Nice marmot.
>
> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:51:18 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> My pet marmot much prefers to ride in the airy, open basket rather than
>> buckled in the dark recesses of my
Nice marmot.
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:51:18 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
> My pet marmot much prefers to ride in the airy, open basket rather than
> buckled in the dark recesses of my Sackville. It's a thing of beauty to
> watch the wind whip through her fur and hear the whistle
I do the same thing with all my bikes. I've used VeloRetro musettes tightly
wadded up and stuffed in seat wedges -- Chuck Schmidt will do custom photo
prints (there's a tech term I forget) and I have Beryl Burton at time-trial
speed and I lost Reg Harris in an all-out effort near the finish line)
A hack I now use that may be obvious to others on this list for unexpected
pop-up bike storage, such as for stopping for one small item at the store
and walking out with five or six items:
I stow a thin, light, nylon musette-type bag stuffed inside a small bar or
saddle bag. That way the
I've done quite a bit of self-supported touring over the years, mostly
solo, and I pretty quickly transitioned away from using a rear rack and
rear panniers as soon as I started riding a low-trail 650b bike (my Ocean
Air Cycles Rambler, RIP). I don't imagine I'll ever go back now. Both of my
Kai, very interesting. But this pic is beyond category!Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 2, 2024, at 10:19 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:I’ve got a bike with no top tube, and since there’s no top tube, I think it’s best to load the front so’s to avoid the certain twistability of a step-through. I
I want to see Keith P's *racing basket!*
Patrick "I can live with a racing basket" Moore
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 3:04 PM vernon brooks
wrote:
> I’ve tried out a lot of different set ups with my Atlantis and ultimately
> landed on handlebar bag with Mini front rack. Having a basket is nice for
I’ve tried out a lot of different set ups with my Atlantis and ultimately
landed on handlebar bag with Mini front rack. Having a basket is nice for
hauling stuff around, but I found it feels a little clunky and out of place
because I primarily ride drop bars. I am in the process of restoring a
Photo of Lightning Bolt, please?
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:54 PM ian m wrote:
> No harm no foul. My newest bike is a Crust Lightning Bolt currently
> sporting a front basket, wide(ish) drop bars, platform pedals, a leather
> saddle, and XTR rapid rise derailer. Everything I want out of a
No harm no foul. My newest bike is a Crust Lightning Bolt currently
sporting a front basket, wide(ish) drop bars, platform pedals, a leather
saddle, and XTR rapid rise derailer. Everything I want out of a road(ish)
bike.
On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 4:00:48 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
Good point; I was thinking about bar type and position and rider position
in this preference equation.
While I do all my grocery shopping by bike, I rarely carry 50 lb of of
stuff and when I do I have front lowriders and a smaller pair of Ortliebs
for those. A good balance is 30-35 rear and 15-20
Any reply from me would be mostly irrelevant because of the OP use case:
carrying 50 pounds of groceries. I never (never) carry 50 pounds of
groceries on a bicycle. I do often carry 1-5 pounds of stuff on general
bicycle errands. Sometimes I take bike parts down to the post office to
mail
In my experience, as handlebars get higher and closer to the rider the
better some weight in a basket works. The dual effect of reducing front end
weight (lightening the front wheel & feel) AND increasing body weight on
the rear end of the bike makes a front load seem ideal. If you ride drops,
Patrick,
Lovely photo of the flowers in the panniers.
This discussion, like many about human preferences, it's so much about our
habits and that to which we've become accustomed.
An argument can be made that flowers are better carried in a front basket
so the rider can enjoy both the view,
I concur with Patrick's assessment for his criteria.
Popping off and on a set of Ortliebs is so quick and clean, and they carry
so much, and roll up so nicely, and the handy shoulder straps make them
great for shopping, farmer's market or otherwise.
As for weight, our little ten-pound Dorkie
I, too, have tried many iterations. My go-to for my commute is saddlesack
and front basket. I can fit almost all my stuff in the saddlesack. The
front basket is for taking off my jacket or occasional stops to the library
or grocery.
When I've ridden in and stopped at a place where I'm not
I think a bike looks and feels incredibly unbalanced with just two big
stuffed rear panniers. Like many here have stated, the super noodly
rear-end just isn't desirable. And, if you're carrying so much stuff that
you're filling two big panniers, why not balance the load a bit more and
carry
I like using the front for my gear because it just seems a bit easier to
mount/dismount the bike in that configuration. Rear panniers have a time
and place, but just not for 99% of my riding.
Hey acksf78...Tell me you're on Instagram without telling me :)
*I have tried it all and I will never
Best is both worlds! A 137 up front with either my swift sugarloaf or
shopsack and 1 or 2 panniers in the rear. About all one could ask for with
nearly all day-long commuting or utilitarian purposes. I scored the most
recent version of an Ortlieb Vario off eBay. That has been the ultimate
If you ever want to bike-pack and go somewhere remote or accessible via
single track, having your luggage up in a basket, frame bag, saddlebag,
avoids the risk of catching a pannier (or both) on roots, branches, downed
trees cut just wide enough for passage, etc.
I learned this the hard way on
One reason to put some weight on the front of the bike is that all of your
(body) weight is mostly on the rear already.
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 5:26:41 PM UTC-8 Stephen wrote:
> I have basically the same reasoning as Ian, and also live in a city and
> dont want to leave bags on my bike
I have basically the same reasoning as Ian, and also live in a city and
dont want to leave bags on my bike when I lock up, plus i like my daily bag
to not look too bikey (I use the shopsacks). Convenient and easy, easier to
pile up with whatever shit i want, take a jacket or sweater off if i
IMO, baggage ought to complement the handling characteristics of the
bicycle. My benchmark idea of handling has been formed by 30 years of
riding Rivendells which, IME, do best with rear loads, or at least loads
biased toward the rear and not the front.
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 5:18 PM ian m
I'm not sure how it makes more sense to put a bag into another bag than
into a basket, but to each their own. My perspective probably comes from
living in the Bay Area where I refused to leave anything attached to my
bike that didn't look like a part of the bike or was easily removable, far
I used to put my work kit into a shoulder bag and put that bag into my
Carradice Camper Longflap; I still don't understand the advantages of a big
front basket except that you don't need to undo and re-do straps.
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:31 PM ian m wrote:
> Short and sweet answer: I can put a
Short and sweet answer: I can put a bag in my basket and take it with me
when I'm off the bike.
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 5:18:59 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
> I'm curious why so many Rivendell-listers prefer baskets to rear
> saddlebags or panniers -- saddlebags in particular
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