[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-18 Thread Spencer Hawkes
My wife and I biked from Portland down into Northern California last summer and here are a few things that might apply to SF-LA: -We followed the 'Bicycling the Pacific Coast' book pretty closely and showered almost every night. The state parks all were shower equipped, just bring along a

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread Mark Reimer
And by Riding across Washington and Seattle I meant Washington and Oregon. Doh. Need more coffee. On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 3:20:07 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: I just finished an 8 day tour across Washington and Seattle and had some interesting observations regarding clothes - I

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread Mark Reimer
They'd last way longer than 3 days for sure. That was just how long I decided to go before switching. I know many people who stick with one pair. The Riv ones are probably 3 times thicker than the Mountain Equip. Co-op and Smartwool pairs I've had. They're definitely designed with a bike seat in

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread drew
i was persuaded to try the merino underwear thing, since im already on the socks and shirt wagon. i had the same experience as you though. destroyed after 2 days of riding. i was using minus33, which i guess are somewhat budget. tried buying the striped riv ones, but they are out of those and

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread John
If you're a cold person, bring a down sweater. If you're warm person, or a freshly landed meteorite as my wife calls me, down is overkill for the coast, but windbreakers are a must. On synthetics vs down or wool, I only feel cozy with down or wool. Synthetics keep me from being cold, but I

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread Mark Reimer
I just finished an 8 day tour across Washington and Seattle and had some interesting observations regarding clothes - I brought three t-shirts. I only ever wore one on the bike (merino t-shirt, stayed dry while sweating). I'd often wear no shirt at all, which was the most comfortable option.

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread Patrick Moore
FWIW, I find that decently made nylon boxers -- loose, hi-rise -- make very comfortable riding togs -- nothing comes between me and my Target nylon boxers. The nice thing about these is that, tho' they will stink and within 24 hours if you ride much in them, they are very easy to wash and very

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread drew
hugh, where are you going? im liking all the paring down suggestions. i found a good deal on a nemo gogo, so ill be trying that out. not too much smaller than my 1 man tent, and a breeze to set up/take down. packed, it's the size of medium sized cantaloupe. right now ive got a medium

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
Drew, I've used the devold for a couple years now and only worn my first pair out. They finally just disintegrated. I think they're worth every penny. Mark, Your clothing pack list is spot on. I on the other hand have a tendency to overpack. When I'm riding I really don't need much on as I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
Drew, I'm heading to Vancouver Island BC for a two week tour. I pine for the PNW and further North, VI has been on my list. Next year, I'm planning on doing the Oregon Outback like Mark just finished and then some tours in the Sierra's. I'm liking the Six Moons Designs Tent tarps for

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-06-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
The Nemo gogo is interesting, still like a tarp though a bit more versatility. Seems if you have a leak on the air frame it could be a bummer pretty small floor space height. It is a bivy though. And not cheap! Tail Winds, ~Hugh On Jun 9, 2015 4:57 PM, drew drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-31 Thread Surlyprof
For those using a thermarest pad, I always had good luck with their compact chair kit (I have an earlier version). Once you get a handle on how to fold it up, it works great. A little padding and lumbar support after a day of hiking or biking was always a welcome relief. John On Tuesday,

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-27 Thread M D Smith
I have used the Big Agnes system and I am not a huge fan. I LOVE the sleeping bag (I forget the model name, but it's a 40 degree rated down bag - perfect for all but wintertime bike touring.) It's the pad I couldn't stand... I use the bag but ditched the pad, opting for my trusty 3/4 length

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm planning to go more or less the speed of the book, so ~70 riding days and ~12 rest days. I won't slavishly follow the book, because I'm incapable of being ordered around by books. But I expect I'll go about that speed. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:54 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread hsmitham
Anne, I'm with you, I too am a side sleeper and a air mattress is a must. I've found that if I keep it slightly deflated I get a wonderful night of rest. That foam pad looks great! Super lightweight perfect for siting anywhere, just not really compressible. These days I like super

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I have had two Big Agnes pads. In both cases, they worked just great until one morning when I woke up and I was sleeping on the ground. Others have reported the same thing-- eventually they leak, unfixably. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:16 PM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Best sleep

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread dougP
That little Therm-a-Rest pad can also double as a knee pad. I use my flip flops for kneeling pads when messing around in my tent from the outside. That would be better. dougP On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Ryan Christbaum
Definitely a warm jacket of some sort. I live in the Berkeley hills and I only sleep with the windows open 3-5 days per year. I know a guy who once drove cabs in SF and made the best money during the summer from freezing passengers. You could also detour east of SF by 20 miles and get

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Dennis Hogan
+1 for John's Big Agnes system. I don't have it but wish I did. Am contemplating velcro to attach the bag to the pad but haven't tried the idea yet. Am also a side sleeper and find the bag and pad seem to have a -/+ relationship of mutual attraction leading to sore mornings. Dennis in PDX On

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Neil
Good start to your list. I also think you are bringing too many clothes, but preferences matter. Yes, add a headlamp. Just got back from 3 nights through southern Humboldt Co., and although it wasn't necessary, I greatly appreciated the luxury and instant warmth of my puffy coat. Oh-so-nice at

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread dougP
After seen the photos attached to Manny's post Mashley S24O Half Moon Bay, I withdraw my previous suggestion about leaving behind the down jacket. Those pix have got me thinking maybe I need one. dougP On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: so ill be riding from SF-LA

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm taking longing looks at this sitting pad:

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2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Anne, are you not taking a sleeping pad? If I use a pad to sit on (I usually don't) I just use my sleeping pad (a cut-down Thermarest Ridge foam like that). With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 3:40:13 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm taking longing looks at this sitting pad:

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread drew
we got a friend of mine one of those fancy REI chairs. it's pretty cool, and youll be the hero of any camp out if you have an extra chair or can roll a large rock well. ill probably just use my z-lite sleeping pad on this trip though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Nobody old rides the Great Divide MTB. Grin. I imagine side sleepers are allowed, though I have no idea what that has to do with foam v inflatable. Grin. I am delighted you know what works for you! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread John Bennett
Best sleep system, bar none, is made by Big Agnes. The inflatable pad fits into a sleeve integrated in the bag. No more slipping off. Fantastic! https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/SleepingBags Cheers, John On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: so ill be riding from

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ahhh. Got it. Is there a benefit for you of an air mattress over a foam? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:05:57 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: My sleeping pad is an air mattress. I don't want to expose it to the bare ground because it could get punctured. The beauty of that

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
My sleeping pad is an air mattress. I don't want to expose it to the bare ground because it could get punctured. The beauty of that little z-pad is that it's tough enough to stand some abuse. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Anne, are you not taking a

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm old, and a side sleeper. No foam for me. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Ahhh. Got it. Is there a benefit for you of an air mattress over a foam? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:05:57 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: My

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-23 Thread James P
I'd add a torch/headlamp to your list. Also, you may want to check out crazyguyonabike.com if you haven't already - there are great trip reports which might give you some route/campsite ideas. (You can filter by area etc.) For navigation, a map (or two) is not a bad idea either - Adventure

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-23 Thread John Bennett
I rode the PCH 15 years ago, and found this book to be very helpful in navigating the ride. I don't know if it's been updated recently, but it never gave me a bum steer: http://www.amazon.com/Bicycling-Pacific-Coast-Vicky-Spring/dp/0898869544 Have fun. John -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread Anne Paulson
I disagree with leave the down at home. In all the coast hiker-biker campgrounds every night, you will see people wearing those down puffies. It gets cold at night. The last time I stayed at one of the coast hiker-bikers, the one at Half Moon Bay, I brought my down puffy jacket and was glad to

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread dougP
The Ballona Creek bikeway, just below Marina del Rey, takes you to the Expo Line. Don't succumb to depression; take the train. dougP On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:22:57 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: great. this is getting good. consensus is that there are too many clothes, and now i get to

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread Eric Norris
Wow. How did I forget the BEER? http://www.adventurecycling.org/resources/blog/don-t-let-the-can-get-you-down-get-yourself-a-beer-growler-pannier/ --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On May 22, 2015, at 7:09 PM, drew drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote: i

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread drew
wouldn't whiskey be the ultralight option? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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2015-05-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
I agree with Anne. It might not be the most socially responsible place to buy down clothing, but I got mine from Uniqlo. Their ultralight down jackets are super cheap, very fashionable, and it comes with its own ultralight stuffsack. I use mine for lounging in camp, and then stuff it into

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread drew
i tried to resist the down puffy jacket for a while, just because it seems like everyone in any outdoor setting has them. it truly is a great piece of travel gear though. i take mine on any and all trips, bike or un-bike related. sidenote- rei and campsaver have the patagonia nano puffs on

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread Anne Paulson
For even more getting off Highway 1, instead of exiting at Pescadero Creek Road, take Stage Road just north of San Gregorio. That takes you to Pescadero, where you can go left on Pescadero Creek Road, then take Cloverdale Gazos Creek as Bill describes. Stage Road has two moderate climbs, but

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread scott
Get a couple of diaper pins and pin them to your saddle bag. Wash your undies and shirts in the shower, wring them out, then pin them to your bag to dry for the day. Also, bring three shirts. If they are wool, bring two. Have a great ride! -- You received this message because you are

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2015-05-22 Thread Esteban
This is a few years old now, with new products to market -- but here were my post-tour thoughts after SF-SB in 2011: https://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/7-day-tour-what-i-brought/ Don't bring much in terms of clothing. In general, two versions of on-bike clothing (2 wool t-shirts, 2

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
Speaking of side routes, I highly recommend getting off Hwy1 at Pescadero Creek Road, right on Cloverdale Road, right on Gazos Creek Road. That adds a tiny bit of distance and a bit of climbing but it is removed from the Hwy 1 traffic for a bit, and takes you through a couple cute towns.

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread drew
great. this is getting good. consensus is that there are too many clothes, and now i get to justify buying some versatile quick drying stuff too. thanks for the route suggestions, and keep them coming. any chance to get off the main highway is welcome. doug, i live in LA, near downtown. i'll

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread sameness
doug, i live in LA, near downtown. i'll just be riding home from pch, which will be a depressing end to the trip, but one i feel i must make. Loop through Santa Monica and you can draft me home. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

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2015-05-22 Thread dougP
Drew: I agree with the comments that you are taking too many clothes. 2 t-shirts made of a quick dry material are adequate. One wool LS jersey one SS plus the Ts give you plenty of layering options. Rain jacket yes but leave the down at home. One pair of pants. I use a cargo net like

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-22 Thread dougP
Drew: Re: Anne's comment: There's an oil spill at Refugio State Beach, north of Santa Barbara. You have an option to go inland there. Do so. The campgrounds along the coast are closed anyway because of the spill. As of today, they are estimating weeks to months for the cleanup so likely

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
My personal secret is to ease into it. The way I ease into it is an easy first day just to Santa Cruz (90 miles from Daly City BART) and I treat myself to a bed at the youth hostel there. Then the second night I camp at Pfeiffer Big Sur. On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-21 Thread drew
Haha, a towel is on the list. don't worry, ive made that mistake before. see, im fine sleeping on the ground, but my weakness is in wanting something clean to put on when i wake up from riding all day and sleeping on the ground. hence the shirts, which are not a problem on 2 or 3 day rides. i

Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-21 Thread Anne Paulson
Gear: Three T-shirts are fine. Do laundry along the way. Are you bringing sunblock? You'll need soap for the showers. And quarters. You didn't list alcohol for the stove. A light hat with a brim is nice for when the sun is out, and I definitely recommend a wool hat for evenings. Riding on

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
I don't take extra shirts, shorts, or pants. I wear them till I wash them, then they dry on me. But eating paleo has the benefit of no BO from grains and veggie oils. I'd skip the towel. Two pair underwear and alternate/wash as needed. Enjoy! You'll have a blast. Post a tour report and photos

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
Actually, Anne, Colorado has been quite damp, and I've had nothing but rain and high humidity on quite a few of my bikepacking trips the last three years. So I stand by my no spare approach. Though I would not have pre-ventile. The damp is why I've switched from a down sleeping bag to a Wiggy

[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
Fred from Big Hero 6 has the underwear thing figured out 4 day undies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGYkNuZCnpY On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 6:08:09 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: Haha, a towel is on the list. don't worry, ive made that mistake before. see, im fine sleeping on the ground, but my