[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-16 Thread KenP
Over several years I went through all kinds of permutations trying to cure a problem like this; I tried different chainrings, different derailleurs, different shifters. I had changed the chairings on my Sugino XD2 to 30, 38, 53 and originally took out the spacers. The 9 speed chains and the

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-14 Thread J Schwartz
Thanks for the feedback I ended up changing the 5mm spacers to 4mm spacers, replaced the Phil 113mm BB to a UN50 110mm BB I had laying around, made some front derailleur limit adjustments and cleaned the drivetrain... Quick ride around and things seems to be shifting very well. Haven't had the

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Steve
Joel, for purposes of chaining I'd suggest ignoring the bash guard and reference your chainline as you would for a conventional double (the bash guard is irrelevant to tchainline considerations. If you happen to have a long enough meter/yardstick (or something like it) you can lay one end

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Joe Bernard
I would guess on 4mm. The worst that happens is you change em again!  On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 12:44:23 PM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote: > Well I already took the crank off > The spacers I used, which I really thought were the ones that came with > the Silver crank, are indeed 5mm > [image:

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
*Suggest calling/writing RBW.* I recall a Grant write up a few years ago comparing the Silver to the XD2 2 and I remember something about spacers on the 74mm BCD posts. If the crank is on the bike, you can measure the distance form the end of the seat tube to the teeth of the Middle and Inner

Re: [RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Btw needing spacers on a Silver crank instead of having the spacing built in is useful. You can use really thin ones to get the rings closer for a double-ring-plus-guard 11- or 12-speed drivetrain. On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:47:45 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > Judging from a photo is

Re: [RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Judging from a photo is basically impossible but I'm going to do it anyway, your spacers look wider than my 3.5. I'll betcha 3.5 is the ticket for you. On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:37:28 AM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote: > thanks for all the input > very helpfuland for the article on

Re: [RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, and my spacers are AFAIK from the 7 speed or 8 speed era -- they've been in my little drawer for decades -- and I'm using them with an 11 ("eleven") speed chain (42/28 X 10-25 10 sp cassette); it never occurred to me that I might have spacing problems and in fact I never have had any. On Sat,

Re: [RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Patrick Moore
I've not used the Silvers but some square taper triples used spacers between middle and granny; I just looked at the spacers between the 42 t ring and the 28 t granny on my Logic 110 triple (guard/42/28). On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 8:46 AM Will Boericke wrote: > I've never had to use spacers on

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread aeroperf
Typical spacing between chainrings is 5mm. However, it is all about the chainline. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Garth
Oh sheesh, how about "If the rings are not flush with where you place the spacers, well then you must add/subtract that distance from each other". Some chainrings are thicker than others. that said, it doesn't have to be exact, you simply don't want to use something much too thick, like a 5mm

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Garth
Somewhere between 3.5-3.6mm should work as that's what I measure the spacing between the large arms on every crank I own. I measured the thickness of the arm "shelves" up which the rings sit. So if the inner ring mounting holes are flush with the middle ring, it's obvious a 3.5-3.6mm spacer

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Joe Bernard
The other possibility here is you're using a narrow 10-speed chain, it might hang up a bit between the middle and small rings on a Silver crank if the shift is a little lazy. On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 8:34:25 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > I search of the webs produced 3.5mm as a common

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread RichS
Joel, If this helps, my 8 speed setup is: Guard/44/30 — but with a Sugino crank (if that makes a difference). Shifted with a Claris triple. No spacers involved and works fine. Perhaps try without the spacers and /or play with the adjustment on the derailer. Best, Rich in ATL On Saturday,

[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

2023-05-13 Thread Will Boericke
I've never had to use spacers on chainrings, but I've also never disassembled the aforementioned crank. To my mind, if you need spacers on a crankset, you've designed something wrong. On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 8:50:06 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote: > weird question...but here goes > I