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2018-07-02 Thread Grant Petersen
A trifecta, or a triple threat to our continued existence? We'll see.. we're working on a spider web frame. On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:12 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > That will make folks do a double-take. > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:1

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2018-07-02 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
That will make folks do a double-take. On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:15:30 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > It'll be a first look at our three-top tube bike! > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Bill Lindsay > wrote: > >> Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG >> Bill hits the "Refresh"

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2018-07-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Three tubes are divisive...in triplicate! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this grou

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2018-07-02 Thread Grant Petersen
It'll be a first look at our three-top tube bike! On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG > Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again > Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again > Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLA

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2018-07-02 Thread Patrick Moore
"The effect of disc-brake denial on national immigration policy." "Why lugs encourage illegal aliens." "Sanctuary cities and the grass-roots demand for long chain stays." "Family border separation caused by too much carbon fiber!" Patrick "I could do this all day long" Moore, who agrees with H.

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2018-07-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again Will

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2018-07-02 Thread Joe Bernard
"Hey, abducting children seems bad" didn't strike me as a particularly divisive statement... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunc

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2018-07-02 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
The next BLAHG will be even more not-intentionally divisive, probably. It will have more bike content in it. On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 10:59:48 AM UTC-7, Richard wrote: > > Viva De Niro!!?? > > Apparently Grant is in full agreement with De Niro's vulgar, classless > attack on the president. Th

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2018-07-02 Thread Jim Bronson
I missed the other post, but surely nobody could be upset about vulgarity towards a man who brags about how he grabs 'em in the, well, you know. Cycling content: I wish the President's motorcade would drive by me when I was riding my Rivendell so I could also flip him off like that lady in DC. I

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2018-07-02 Thread hugh flynn
Well, I think we’re missing the larger point and that is that Richard was upset that someone used course and vulgar language in reference to the President when clearly the use of course and vulgar language is reserved for the President hisself. Imagine how upset Richard must have been about the wa

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2018-07-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/01/2018 11:21 PM, Justin, Oakland wrote: I personally have no use to be united with someone who agrees with the policy of committing human rights violations. +1 There are two main areas of disagreement here: those who disagree with overtly political content on a cycling mailing lis

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2018-07-01 Thread Justin, Oakland
Don’t go thanking me! That will really divide the group. If this divides us then that is fine with me. I personally have no use to be united with someone who agrees with the policy of committing human rights violations. But that’s just me. And most people I know. -Justin, husband of a produ

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2018-07-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Apparently Trump can be a name-calling, classless, vulgar autocratic lunatic who abducts children, but I'm not allowed to be pissed off about it. I'm pissed off about it and if you disagree with me and support him, you're wrong. Get on the right side of history. -- You received this message

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2018-07-01 Thread Philip Williamson
Vulgar and classless? Apparently that’s a one-way street for some people. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-b

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2018-07-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Christopher, I'm not going to have some weird, extended conversation with you in a thread that was buried a week ago until some divisive asshole revived it. It's Sunday. Go ride your bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. T

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2018-07-01 Thread Rod Holland
Then again, as humans, we evolved a facility for quick pattern matching. Not neccessarily accurate, but quick... rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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2018-07-01 Thread Christopher Murray
Joe, Why are you at the center of every divisive, name calling thread? Have you noticed the pattern? I have. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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2018-07-01 Thread Joe Bernard
My thoughts are "Richard" - whoever that is - revived this thread a week after it died to be divisive. You don't have to ECHO MY THOUGHTS, but nothing in your post contradicts them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsub

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2018-07-01 Thread Kieran J
This goes to show there's a Dick in every crowd .. KJ On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 10:59:48 AM UTC-7, Richard wrote: > > Viva De Niro!!?? > > Apparently Grant is in full agreement with De Niro's vulgar, classless > attack on the president. That's fine, he's entitled to his opinion. Me, I'm > fre

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2018-07-01 Thread Christopher Murray
DEFINITELY NOT echoing Joe’s thoughts here. If you’ve been around long enough then you know Grant well enough to know he isn’t trying to be divisive. Caring about people and families is always a noble thing, right? In regards to this issue, I suspect there are more varied opinions amongst this g

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2018-07-01 Thread Nick Ybarra
A friendly reminder: Don't feed the trolls. On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-5, Richard wrote: > > Viva De Niro!!?? > > Apparently Grant is in full agreement with De Niro's vulgar, classless > attack on the president. That's fine, he's entitled to his opinion. Me, I'm > free to shop e

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2018-07-01 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Toodles. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Alex Wirth Rochester, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@

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2018-07-01 Thread Joe Bernard
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2018-07-01 Thread Richard
Viva De Niro!!?? Apparently Grant is in full agreement with De Niro's vulgar, classless attack on the president. That's fine, he's entitled to his opinion. Me, I'm free to shop elsewhere. My values and beliefs aren't welcome at Rivendell, so in the future, I'll spend my money elsewhere. No big

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2018-07-01 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Echoing Joe's thoughts here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

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2018-07-01 Thread Joe Bernard
You revived this thread just to be a divisive prick. Thanks, random anonymous asshole. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+un

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2018-07-01 Thread R Shannon
Same here! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > That remark is mean spirited and certainly not one that I associate myself > with in any way. > > Patrick Moore > iPhone > >> On Jul 1, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Richard wrote: >> >> Thanks Grant, good job at di

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2018-07-01 Thread Patrick Moore
That remark is mean spirited and certainly not one that I associate myself with in any way. Patrick Moore iPhone > On Jul 1, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Richard wrote: > > Thanks Grant, good job at dividing us. > > > >> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 1:06:04 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >> I agree.

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2018-07-01 Thread hugh flynn
Having people in the same place with different viewpoints on topics (greasing square tapers anyone?) doesn’t count as division unless we agree to be excessively fragile in our collective worldview. I, for one, can take it. It’s a bit of a shocker, but I’ve come to understand that good people can vi

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2018-07-01 Thread Richard
Thanks Grant, good job at dividing us. On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 1:06:04 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I agree. Even the "Other annoying threads" thread has become annoyingly > earnest. > > In general, we are all much more intelligent when talking about bikes. > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018

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2018-06-24 Thread LBleriot
Bravo Grant! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-b

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2018-06-22 Thread Joe Bernard
The thread is about children - including babies - being torn from their parents, not unaccompanied minors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2018-06-22 Thread Max S
Patrick (and many others) make good points. To inject some facts and focus the discussion on productive matters: Blog post on Marginal Revolution “by Tyler Cowen June 21, 2018 at 8:10 pm in Data Source Law Number of unaccompanied minors, age 17 or lower, apprehended during or after border c

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2018-06-21 Thread Philip Williamson
Pot, meet kettle. Philip Edited -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send e

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2018-06-21 Thread Richard Rios
it really makes me bummed out that anyone would be irritated, annoyed, miffed, or whatever to see this topic here. I know we all want our little cubbies to hide in and time out from the world. But really isn't this an EXCEPTIONAL circumstance even among all the exceptional circumstances going on

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2018-06-21 Thread CMR
Yes, straight up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own

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2018-06-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
“It’s just not that big of a deal to be discussing our current government not only turning away refugees but splitting the families apart and prosecuting them with a crime in kangaroo courts.” This is an excellent example of needing to self edit. At least here. This is biased, inflammatory lang

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2018-06-21 Thread Ryan Merrill
Generally what goes up on the blug or blagh gets talked about. It’s just not that big of a deal to be discussing our current government not only turning away refugees but splitting the families apart and prosecuting them with a crime in kangaroo courts. -- You received this message because yo

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2018-06-21 Thread Justin, Oakland
I would further point out that many timpeople s the reason why folks talk, at length, about why they don’t want bikes made in China and in general overseas is due to the potential human rights abuses. Irony is delicious. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2018-06-21 Thread Joe Bernard
I've never read a paleo thread even though my bathroom scale says I should. I probably should read my Eat Bacon, Don't Jog book, too... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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2018-06-21 Thread Philip Williamson
Good point. All those threads irritate me mightily, but I skip them. Not always, but I should. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 12:22:24 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On 06/21/2018 11:37 AM, Christopher Murray wrote: > > What I think is sad is that when people sp

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2018-06-21 Thread Christopher Murray
So every word, sentence, or paragraph (two in this case) that Grant writes or utters is on topic on this bike forum? That’s insane. The examples you chose are things he wrote or talked about extensively. Oh, you don’t get to close the case. But thank you. Chris -- You received this message b

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2018-06-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/21/2018 11:37 AM, Christopher Murray wrote: What I think is sad is that when people speak one side of this issue they are shouted down or accused of baiting the conversation yet when people speak the other side there is praise or silence. And then people try to claim this isn’t a poli

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2018-06-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/21/2018 11:58 AM, Christopher Murray wrote: “If this thread upsets you then stop reading it and move on to another thread. It is easy to avoid reading this thread and engaging.“ That is an amazing response. Thank you. So I’m welcome to agree but not disagree? Did I say I was upset? I s

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2018-06-21 Thread Joe Bernard
Eh, I'm an idiot talking about bikes, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this gr

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2018-06-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I agree. Even the "Other annoying threads" thread has become annoyingly earnest. In general, we are all much more intelligent when talking about bikes. On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Sigh. This thread wasn’t political, until it was. > > As I read it, all people postin

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2018-06-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
Sigh. This thread wasn’t political, until it was. As I read it, all people posting here are for basic human rights. Not all people agree on who, what, where, when, or how. This disagreement in no way negates their support of human rights. Please, stop with the abundant falsifies of logic, judge

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2018-06-21 Thread masmojo
I find that whenever the truth gets the light shined on it; it's dismissed as one sided or it's "fake news" (sort of an oxymoron) or blame is portioned off on the Democrats, liberal snowflakes, etc. To promote vacuous things like conservatism and "family values" as if family values are something

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2018-06-21 Thread Joe Bernard
There is no "other side" of babies abducted from mothers and put in camps. This is the folly of CNN, which Jay Rosen has dubbed "the view from nowhere": Every topic gets a panel which treats it as 50/50, as if the most egregious atrocity is just another POV. Screw that. The policy was a sin, and

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2018-06-21 Thread Christopher Murray
“If this thread upsets you then stop reading it and move on to another thread. It is easy to avoid reading this thread and engaging.“ That is an amazing response. Thank you. So I’m welcome to agree but not disagree? Did I say I was upset? I should stop engaging? I’m as against family separatio

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2018-06-21 Thread Jonathan D.
I hate that political is seen as a bad thing. Most things in lthe public sphere are political and that shouldn’t be seen as bad. Our current process really wants to allow that all issues have two equally valid views. That is not true. Taking children from parents seeking asylum is one of thos

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2018-06-21 Thread Christopher Murray
What I think is sad is that when people speak one side of this issue they are shouted down or accused of baiting the conversation yet when people speak the other side there is praise or silence. And then people try to claim this isn’t a political issue. This issue has no place here. Yes, Grant m

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2018-06-21 Thread Joe Bernard
This was my tweet about it yesterday (bleeped version): Create crisis, defuse crisis he created, rinse, repeat. this guy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it

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2018-06-21 Thread masmojo
I would typically avoid discussions of this type (why I got off Facebook), but my wife was asking for my input on it, because she was confused. I said "quite frankly, I am too!"? The administration acts like this is a new situation, exacerbated by existing regulations, but how come this issue

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2018-06-21 Thread William!
What a world we live in, when standing up for basic human decency is “political”. Mattt’s opinions make it pretty clear to me that he baited the thread because he doesn’t like the Grant’s opinion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

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2018-06-21 Thread RichS
Patrick, that’s good! Made me smile. Thanks for the link to the NYT article. Love the inclusion of the value of a Wald basket. Best, Richard (Happily commuting in non-Lycra fabric on my Wald basketed Atlantis) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

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2018-06-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Not only is Grant influencing national immigration policy, he's infiltrating branded content into the NYT. Well, who else? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/smarter-living/gear-for-biking-to-work.html?action=click&module=Smarter%20Living&pgtype=Homepage -- You received this message because you

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2018-06-20 Thread Rod Holland
Thank you, Grant. Long may you wave. rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this gro

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2018-06-20 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yeah, one more time - thank you, Grant. Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

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2018-06-19 Thread Jonathan D.
Thanks Grant for speaking out. It would seem all Blahg topics are appropriste for this list. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun

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2018-06-19 Thread Richard Rios
Right on Grant! People first. Thank you for the post. Big respect for the cajones. Best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners

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2018-06-19 Thread Joe Bernard
It's different. Tonight I watched Rachel Maddow get a Breaking News sheet on her desk as her show was ending, and it was the announcement that this psychotic government is holding babies in camps. Rachel is the toughest host/anchor on cables news and when she got to the phrase "tender age facil

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2018-06-19 Thread Justin, Oakland
A) Grant posted it. I’m glad for it. B) It takes courage (or foolishness [or both {or neither}]) to voice opinions as a business. C) Grant has said and I agree that this forum can be cranky pants at time without much praise. Here’s some praise. D) Fucking seriously. -J -- You received this m

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2018-06-19 Thread Bob K.
Grant wrote: “It feels like frivolous sinning to write about bikes and poems, when Trump and Sessions are breaking up families in Texas. Is this really one of those political topics that we aren't supposed to voice an opinion on, because we're supposed to be an oasis, or because we don't want t

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2018-06-19 Thread Drw
Jesus. Grant posted it. Grant owns Rivendell. I think this safely falls within the bounds. Also it’s objectively (I thought) awful and worth thinking about. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group an

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2018-06-19 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
Mattt, feel free to ignore that simple thank you to Grant, which I second. Nothing political mentioned - just thanks. Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

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2018-06-19 Thread hugh flynn
Are basic decency and human dignity really a political position? Hugh Flynn Newburyport, MA On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:52 PM Mattt wrote: > Please do not introduce political non “bike” talk on the board. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW

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2018-06-19 Thread Mattt
Please do not introduce political non “bike” talk on the board. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.c

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2018-06-19 Thread Stephen W.
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2018-06-19 Thread Justin, Oakland
Glad to see you voice your opinion on the Blahg/Blug/whatever it was. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@

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