Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-06-13 Thread Max S
Well... a few (somewhat) younger folks still riding them, I should hope, self included! I’ve ridden tubulars off and on for ~25 years now, mostly 22 mm road tires. In the last 3-4 years, I’ve been really enjoying 32 mm Vittoria XN, intended for dry hardpack cross courses, riding them on a mix

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-06-12 Thread William deRosset
> Re: association of tubulars with "roadies." These days I don't know what a > typical tubular rider would be except perhaps a > > professional racer. -- Hi, All, Old. Tubular users are all old because nobody younger than I am (50's) learned to use them and stuck with them

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-06-12 Thread Patrick Moore
I just saw this. Some very experienced recreational -- ie, non-pro, but the sort who do PBP and other brevets -- say that tubulars are simply more cushioning at a given width than equivalent wired-ons. Some also say that they are, all equal, faster. Tubular are certainly -- all equal -- lighter.

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-27 Thread Bill Schairer
Replacing tube from sheldon brown: Tube Replacement To replace the entire tube, open the tire on one side of the stem, the side that seems to be easier to re-sew after the repair. Open about eight to ten cm the usual way, so that the old tube can be pulled out by the stem. Cut the tube and

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Thank you Bill. I'm gradually absorbing tubular lore and data and, though my Libertas project is far enough in the future that it's not visible to the naked eye, I've been tempted to push "buy" for several recent list posts (boblist, I think) for old tubular wheelsets. But another person on this

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-27 Thread Corwin
Hi Max - Never used TireAlert. Interesting they offer tube replacement, but no patching. Lots more sewing to replace a tube. I don't understand how using basetape instead of glue is cheating. IMHO, the only criteria is whether the adhesive on the basetape or glue holds the tire to the rim -

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-26 Thread William deRosset
They have been with us for well over a century. No reason to think that they're going away too quickly. Right now, they are lighter, less expensive, as durable, and as easy to live with as clinchers. They do require a different skillset that requires some practice/training. I haven't had to

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-26 Thread Brewster Fong
On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 6:17:23 PM UTC-7, ted wrote: > > Re: association of tubulars with "roadies" > . These days I don't know what a typical tubular rider would be except > perhaps a professional racer. > Another reason some people are willing to ride tubular tires is because of

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-26 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:59:54 PM UTC+8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I've always been fascinated by roadies hardcore enough to ride tubulars > and doing the patching/sewing job on flats. I don't have a clue how they do > it, but it's cool! Joe, it's actually not that hard. The patching part

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Schairer
Patrick, lots of questions, may I answer below? On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Bill L, that's a nice Roadeo, even nicer with the new wheels. Bill S, > thanks for these apercus, and I welcome your enthusiasm; *I* think > *exalte's* are *nice* people! >

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Ted: As I said in an earlier post, my Libertas + tubular wheel project is scheduled for 2021, if I and the world last that long, but I'd be interested in seeing a photo of and hearing your price for your tubular wheelset -- if you'll consider shipping them. If the price is low, I might be

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread ted
Re: association of tubulars with "roadies" I guess really the association should be with "racers" though I think some folks use of the term "roadie" implies a MCFRB riding racer wana be. Back in the day high performance meant tubulars, but mostly only racers or racer wana bees bothered with

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Bill L, that's a nice Roadeo, even nicer with the new wheels. Bill S, thanks for these apercus, and I welcome your enthusiasm; *I* think *exalte's* are *nice* people! It won't be this year, since the very long-maturing 3-speed road bike project is now under way and my money and time will be spent

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Schairer
Also being a Bill, I’ll volunteer my answer to Ted’s question. I have two sets of the Vlaanderen tires, each set with about 1800 miles times 4 gives me about 7200 tire miles? I have had one puncture too large for sealant -glass cut. The tire was at about the rated mileage limit and well worn

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Ted asked if Veloflex Vlaanderen tires have latex tubes. Yes, they do. Ted asked if I am cutting em open and patching when I get flats. I've only ridden them 36 miles, one ride, and have had zero flats. At the rate of zero flats per 36 miles, I'll never get a flat! haha. My roadside

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Max S
When I was a poor student and building a bike, I scored a great deal on a wheelset via wreck.bikes Usenet group. $60. Turned out it was tubular. 藍 I read Jobst’s instructions on patching them (he was still active on the tech forum!), then put out a plea for used / punctured sewups. I got 4 of

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
I've always been fascinated by roadies hardcore enough to ride tubulars and doing the patching/sewing job on flats. I don't have a clue how they do it, but it's cool! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-24 Thread ted
So Bill, are those latex tubbed, and are you cutting em open and patching when you get flats? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-24 Thread ted
Yes but roadies are fools. The best moderate width tires give a nice ride but I’ve never ridden a 23mm clincher that rides near as well as a good hand made racing sew up. Never got a pinch flat on a sew up either. I think the European pros still race on tubulars. Of course their employers pay

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-24 Thread Bill Schairer
I love the Veloflex Vlaanderen! At 27mm, IMO, they ride better than a 38mm, “supple” clincher. I’m an old fart, flat phobe who had always been intimidated by sew-ups. I finally decided I had to try them before I died and am I glad I did. I’m not an experience sew-up retrogrouch. I’m brand

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
Vittoria Corsa Speed G+ Tubular Tire | R Cycles Cross section of a tubular (aka "sew-up") tire.  Note tube in green. On 4/24/20 9:00 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: Bill, does tubular mean tubeless? If so, do the #RivSisters get to feel the tiniest swell of pride for

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-24 Thread Bill Lindsay
Leah No, tubular does not mean tubeless. Tubulars, aka 'sewups', have the tire and tube sewn together as a single unit. It is glued onto a special rim made for the purpose. Tubulars are considered racing tires, and are considered kind of old school. Everything that isn't a tubular is

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-24 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Bill, does tubular mean tubeless? If so, do the #RivSisters get to feel the tiniest swell of pride for maybe-possibly-theoretically influencing you, a resident Riv expert? I think we’re up to 3 or 4 of us women making the tubeless conversion in the last couple of weeks. I’m joking about our

Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-24 Thread Dan McNamara
That bike just looks fast, Bill. Dan > On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > >  > A few things came together and prompted me to build up a tubular wheelset for > my Roadeo. The rims are vintage MAVIC GL330s, and the tires are super sweet > Veloflex Vlaanderen which measure a

[RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-24 Thread Bill Lindsay
A few things came together and prompted me to build up a tubular wheelset for my Roadeo. The rims are vintage MAVIC GL330s, and the tires are super sweet Veloflex Vlaanderen which measure a true 27mm. Now my Roadeo tips the scales at a legit <20 lbs. I am keeping my clincher wheelset as