Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-23 Thread Mat Grewe
Ha, funny how those little differences present themselves! But that makes sense to me, the former that is... Since those "boots" would be used for hiking, as well as winter croquet, I will plan on building them around a felt insole and just enjoy the added warmth while cycling, even if it

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-23 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Mat, I held off on adding felt underfoot and was surprised that I didn’t need it cycling, whereas I did for hiking. Ground contact vs. pedal/air contact underfoot perhaps? Me being weird? Doubtless the latter. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-23 Thread Mat Grewe
Ah ha! Thanks for the winter "boot" tip! My wife and I have been talking about shoe making ( https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/villagevideo/shoemaking-instructional-video) and making a last while my foot is donning thick thick socks, and perhaps a felt insole, could be the ticket. --

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-20 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Mat, for winter, down to -20˚F, I oversize my shoes by +2 or 3 and wear boiled wool socks (multiple pair, as needed, also sized up a bit). This will get a bit trickier as I put in the leather insole which takes up room, but the essentials to any winter system are: circulation, insulation,

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-20 Thread Mat Grewe
Hey, I have looked at Chacos, but I'm not keen on their bulk. I will, however, put up with strapping a brick to my foot when it keeps my toes toasty through a Wisconsin winter! On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 1:39:54 PM UTC-5, masmojo wrote: > > Since, the beginning of summer I've been rocking

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-20 Thread masmojo
Since, the beginning of summer I've been rocking Chaco sandals, no real foot retention per se, but they grip real well on a wide/pinned platform pedal . Most of the guys I know around here also ride Chacos. I prefer them to other sandals, many of which use Neoprene, which can get sort of

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-20 Thread Ginz
I have a lightly used set of power grips I’d part with should anyone want to try them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-20 Thread Mat Grewe
I'm a size 10 and on moderately on the wide side of feet. Nothing out of the ordinary, but that 8" platform felt rather nice underfoot, especially with thin sandals. Thanks for the update Deacon, and keep us posted on how you like the urban pedals. If the Grip Kings don't work out long term,

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-20 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey, Mat! The shift to a toeclip pedal is going well. Some of it you can read about here: https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/pedals-and-shoes-for-feet-shaped-feet-and-fixed-gear-riding I’ll likely do another post after I’ve bikepacked with the Rinko MKS Urban pedals. I love how they feel underfoot,

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-07-20 Thread Mat Grewe
Alas, the rearward pedal extender met it's end after less than 6 months. It stressed enough to break at the right angle bend. I thought about making one that is stiffer out of a steel rod, but I've decided to try flat pedals for now as mid-foot pedaling and the extended toe clips have an

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Come to think of it, my Rivats have metal reinforced leather soles; they must be very old. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Re: minimalist: these are pretty minimalist. I have a pair; very nice, > though I no longer use clips and straps except on the

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Re: minimalist: these are pretty minimalist. I have a pair; very nice, though I no longer use clips and straps except on the Hon Solo. I'm tempted to go back, though. Patrick Moore, who still regrets giving away a pair of pristine, NOS Dettos circa 2001. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 5:34 PM,

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Patrick: For MKS on a budget, the "Esprit: model is a lot wider than the GR-9s I used to use and supports the foot better than the Sylvans. (For $35-odd, you don't get a correct spelling of "spirit" -- that's reserved for the more expensive models.) I didn't care for the Urbans, and quickly sold

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Things about fixed gear pedal retention I’ve learned so far: — MKS bearings, even their cheapies, feel gd underfoot. Leaning toward eventually going with the Allways pedals. — I really like Hold Fast straps, though I’m unsure how well they’ll hold up to my riding. Already a wee bit of

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
I had a fantastic conversation with the founders of Hold Fast. “We don’t have planned obsolence” was one stand out phrase, given in response to my description of the stupid riding I do and the LCG wear an upsidedown strap will encounter. “If you have a problem with it, let us know, whenever.”

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Mat. I admire your solution. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-06 Thread Mat Grewe
I do ride without socks and no issues with the clips chewing my toes. I have Xero Z-Trails and the sandals do have some extra room at the toes, which might help. I was thinking that I would have to put some twine (in true Riv fashion) around the toe area, but haven't felt the need to yet.

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wow, Matt, what an amazing hack! That’s fantastic it works for you. It’s likely beyond my hack skills, but I have to ask: do you ride in sandals without socks? The toe clip seems it would be chewing on my toes. Not to mention I’d likely bend the front and back down on my first climb. Is it

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-06 Thread Mat Grewe
Hey, what has worked for me thus far with sylvan like pedal, midfoot, floppy sandals, and simplicity is this. VO Half clips installed with 25mm bushings (easily variable) from a hardware store to allow my foot to be forward enough on the pedal. This works great, but there isn't much support

Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

2018-05-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, lads! Brian, I may take you up on your generious offer, though I’d like to learn more with the pedals I have and have coming first to have a better idea if yours are likely to work. Howard, thank you for your generious offer. As I look at the Power Grips more closely, they seem to