Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-10-05 Thread RichS
What Justin said. You can also run both stays to the mid-fork braze on. Best, Rich in ATL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-10-05 Thread Ed Fausto
Hi Joe, Good to hear your feedback on these shifters. I have been looking for an alternative to the IRD shifters. Thanks gain Joe :-) On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 1:58 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > I had them on a Clem, they work great in friction. You can even use the > left in index mode if you swap the

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-10-04 Thread Joe Bernard
I had them on a Clem, they work great in friction. You can even use the left in index mode if you swap the cables. It might feel weird to your brain, but there's really no reason for the rear shifting to be on the right side. The derailers don't care where the shifter is!  -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-10-04 Thread Ed Fausto
Thanks Joe, I was really hoping it was possible. After destroying several friction shifter after my bike falls over, I moved all my shifters inside the handlebar. Ed On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:22 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Ed, the shifters are reversed with the 9-speed clicker on the left in >

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-10-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Ed, the shifters are reversed with the 9-speed clicker on the left in friction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-10-04 Thread Ed Fausto
Related to that blug, I just noticed that the red MicroShift, 9 speed SL-T09 is installed inside the handlebar. I would like to use this shifter but I thought it could not be used inside the handlebar. Edgar On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:51 AM Jonathan D. wrote: > It looks like the new front rack

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-10-04 Thread Justin, Oakland
That’s a Mark’s rack with long stays. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-10-04 Thread Jonathan D.
It looks like the new front rack for baskets can be seen on the BLUG on the MIT Atlantis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-28 Thread Drw
A 27f without lowriders is basically a VO constructeur. I’d love to see a 27f, but instead of the removable lowriders you get a slightly higher/extended permanent crossbar that would be wide enough for small panniers. There seems to be a gap in the market for non huge racks that can take a

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I always thought of my Clementine as half pug. On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 8:28:28 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: > > > I don't dislike the 8-pack/12-pack at all, but will agree it's too bulky > and clunky against the elegant lines of a rivendell frame. Looks just > right on a pugsly though. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-28 Thread iamkeith
Regarding the Surly rack: there was a picture in a newsletter or blog entry in the last year or so, where mark had figured out a superior way to mount it to a riv fork. He used the bosses on the top of the crown but, instead of using the straight struts and having to bend them, he used the

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-28 Thread Reed Kennedy
I appreciate the versatility of the Surly 8-Pack Rack, but the erector-set-style mounting gives me the heebies. Even if it works well and doesn't rattle loose it just looks... bad. I'm planning to try the Soma Champs Élysées Mini Front Rack for my new-to-me Hilsen:

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-27 Thread James Warren
r was, "I don't understand why you wouldn't it." -Original Message- >From: masmojo >Sent: Aug 27, 2018 12:27 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks > >Mark, Ive gotten rid of bikes for no other reas

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-20 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
I had a nightmarish vision that the new Basket Rack from Nitto, is going to be a gigantic platform rack with little wire loops welded on the platform for zip ties. Shudder. Clayton DDD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-20 Thread phil k
Less changing zipties every 3 months means less plastic being used. On Monday, August 20, 2018 at 2:10:31 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote: > > Isn't that what the Wald Clem Bosco Basket is? > > Laing > Cocoa FL > > On Monday, August 20, 2018 at 1:43:38 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > >> Curious: Why not

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-20 Thread Jon Dukeman
Rod I posted my Cheviot at the beginning of this thread with pics. The Jandd Extreme is pretty stout. THey advertise 40lb limit including the basket. Jon "FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK " On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Rod Holland wrote: > I've used Jandd Expedition rear racks for

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-20 Thread lconley
Isn't that what the Wald Clem Bosco Basket is? Laing Cocoa FL On Monday, August 20, 2018 at 1:43:38 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > Curious: Why not instead make a quality basket with its own sturdy > fittings? 3 sizes: small, medium and Wald Newsboy. > > > > -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-20 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Patrick asked "Why not built a quality basket?" But then what would good Rivsters do with all their zip ties? I've run a basket on a rear rack with good results. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Curious: Why not instead make a quality basket with its own sturdy fittings? 3 sizes: small, medium and Wald Newsboy. On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:14 AM, EasyRider wrote: > I predict HIGH demand for such a rack. > > I've used and broken the cheapo Sunlite front rack. Dunno if the design > has

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-19 Thread Philip Williamson
Me too. I’m the only person on this thread to have broken an m12 with a basket. It took 14 years. I will not change my ways. I doubled down, and had the basket welded to the rack. I expect the break the basket/rack never Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-18 Thread James Warren
I genuinely appreciated the lecture, Collin. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Ron Mc wrote: > > you should be > > On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 10:11:40 PM UTC-5, Collin A wrote:... >> >> >> Sorry for the lecture, >> Collin A > > -- > You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-18 Thread Neil Doran
I suggest we all continue to put baskets on Nitto racks, load them up, and not be stupid. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-17 Thread Joe Bernard
The screen name is yours and I love the peanut butter jar. That's so cute! 珞 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-16 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
Thank you Rich. It's as equally fun and comfortable to Ride. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-16 Thread R Shannon
Peace of mind with that rack! Your Cheviot is a beauty. Regards, Rich in ATL On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado < row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote: > A couple more photos of Cheviot with Jandd front rack > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-16 Thread Justin, Oakland
I’ve never heard of a company selling a decaleur as a weight supporting device. I’ve only heard and read of them being billed as a stabilizer. VOs initial decaleurs got a lot of flack for breaking at the weld but most of the time it appeared as if they were installed so the decaleur was load

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-15 Thread Ryan M.
Something like the Nitto big rack or Surly front rack will handle a loaded basket no problem, but the problem I see is that people are sticking that kind of load on a small rando rack and then "bikecamping" in some rugged stuff and the racks have got to eventually fail. They aren't that strong

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-15 Thread masmojo
Well, kinda what concerns me is that, if they've had issues with it where does that leave Wald? Most people run racks to support their baskets, because the Wald struts are not up to the task. (Although typically the Wald attaches to the handlebar as well) Still, failure or bending the strut

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-15 Thread Wally Estrella
I run a JIS thru the tomb stone hoop then wrap it around the bars on each side of the stem. On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 7:58:36 AM UTC-4, jandrews wrote: > > What's the best method for rigging up a an Irish strap as a semi-permanent > support between mini-front and bar or mini-front and

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-15 Thread jandrews
What's the best method for rigging up a an Irish strap as a semi-permanent support between mini-front and bar or mini-front and head tube that doesn't affect steering or get in the way? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-15 Thread Ron Mc
you should be On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 10:11:40 PM UTC-5, Collin A wrote:... > > > Sorry for the lecture, > Collin A > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-14 Thread Collin A
I agree, Patrick, definitely not as pretty as the Nitto. Part of the high load rating for the Tubus (and most rear racks for that matter) is that most of the load is transferred vertically to the eyelet bolts near the hub rather than the clamped on strut at the top. The Nitto front (or any

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
The mfr's load limit for the Fly was indeed 20 kg, or 44 lb -- 2.2 lb to the kg; I was confused. I did max it out once or twice. Not nearly as pretty as one of the Nittos though. Presently using Chauncey Matthews customs; probably less strong than the Tubuses but again, no breakage yet. On Tue,

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
The no longer made Tubus Fly was rated at 22 kg, iirc, or 44 lb. Perhaps it was 20 kg. It weighed 11 oz and attached with single, clamped-on strut at the rear caliper mounting bolt. Pretty clear weight of rack to weight of load limit ratio. I used them for 20 years, almost, on many bikes, as

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-14 Thread Collin A
Ron, the *static* weight of the load is always 10 times its mass (when working in SI, otherwise its 32.2 times the mass in slugs). The dynamic weight of your load is whatever your 12-pack of beer (about 4.5 Kg) is accelerating at (relative to gravity) just as it hits the basket again;

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Also, we, or at least I, don't know the conditions under which the Nitto racks in question failed. Me, I have carried quite heavy loads (for such light racks) but for no more than 10 or 15 miles 1-way, and generally half that or even less; and all this on paved roads. Still, I do wonder at the