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And a very good one; great fun. "Penticleat." That sounds a whole lot more real-life than so many "real life" corporate names I come across, which sound like very bad satire. "Cydifex" the new antibiotic. Personally, I think the world needs an April Fools for each month of the year. On Tue, Jan

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All we can do is smile with it all Lee , as it rolls on by like a cloud in sky . and poof there it isn't ! On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 12:43:05 PM UTC-5, Lee Legrand wrote: > > Ha, it was a April Fool Joke. Boy do I feel like a knuckle head now. LOL > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at

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I like my Lems 925 shoes but haven't ridden with them yet. Crazy cold in MD right now keeps me off-bike. Too cold for me. I don't know how Patrick does in in Colorado. Maybe Colorado 15 and Maryland 15 ain't the same. But I have always been a spring/summer weather lover. Anyway, I hope the

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Ha, it was a April Fool Joke. Boy do I feel like a knuckle head now. LOL On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Lee Legrand wrote: > Really? > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Garth wrote: > >> It was an April fools joke ! >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 2,

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Really? On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Garth wrote: > It was an April fools joke ! > > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 12:15:09 PM UTC-5, Lee Legrand wrote: >> >> I am opening this discussion back up. Well, I get cycling stuff sent to >> me thru pinterest and there is a

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It was an April fools joke ! On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 12:15:09 PM UTC-5, Lee Legrand wrote: > > I am opening this discussion back up. Well, I get cycling stuff sent to > me thru pinterest and there is a minimalist cycling shoe that appeared in > 2014 offered by Shimano. I do not know

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I am opening this discussion back up. Well, I get cycling stuff sent to me thru pinterest and there is a minimalist cycling shoe that appeared in 2014 offered by Shimano. I do not know if they still have it but I figure I will at least link it hear for all to read. I still do not know if it

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Peter, A raised heel changes the gait, be it running or walking, causing greater wear and impact on the heel (as well as altering biomechanics). The “solution” you say the heel is actually created the problem. WIth the excepetion of leather soled moccasins, the uppers on my footwear fall apart

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Hi Patrick, I do not have an answer to why high heel may be worse or better and would be open just like you to the evidence. Also, I think the evidence is there but you may not be aware of it. Rarely do I see anyone mentioning anything other than the typical raised heel or giving a shoe in the

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Peter, having a durable heel assumes you are walking in a heel first manner, but it is not the only way. It also implies the heel is separate from the rest of the shoe, and the heel is the landing surface. In bare feet, I for one find landing on the heels first feels not only awkward, but

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Lee: For my mind, at any rate, the question about the benefits or detriments of heels remains open; I just haven't heard sufficiently good evidence either way and, again, the argument "all the others are doing it wrong" seems to me to be a dangerously 2-edged sword. Respectfully, I don't yet see

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Hi Patrick, I would not use the word stupid since a society is not always progressing but can remain stagnant because of cultural conditioning and society tend to change slowly or resist change. Anyway, it may be due to wear but I am not aware of the reason why shoes have heels and it may be

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Heels may well add nothing to foot health, but apparently they don't hurt, to judge by the 80 and 90 year olds I've known who wore heeled shoes and remained ambulatory until very near death without any foot complaints! I'm still open to the answer; it's obvious that millennia of people got by

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Peter: That is one difference between European, at least Swiss, attitudes, and American ones: Here, it's alost cheaper to buy a new shoe, and certainly easier, than to find a competent cobbler who replace soles and heels. In fact, most shoes up to the middle price ranges nowadays aren't even

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Hey Peter, It may last longer but what does this say about foot health? I think that is central to the minimalist shoe idea and to this post. Not how shoes last longer but is a raise heel better for your feet? On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Peter Turskovitch wrote:

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Thick heels last longer. That's what they're for. They exist to allow you to walk farther before replacing your shoes. The vast majority of shoes, for centuries, have had a little extra material in the places that wear the most. That means raised heels. Raised heels mean that your shoes can

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Hi Lum, I see how they are using it from the ad. It reminds me when I have discussions of people who buy organic chicken. What is organic chicken? Its chicken that eats organic food that is mostly some kind grain but chicken natural diets are not grain and include greens, seeds, insects and

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Werent heels made for riding in stirrups? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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Humans are highly adaptable, and we often adapt to things less than ideal and yet continue to do amazing things along the way. Democracy of the herd buying mostly raised heels doesn’t answer the question: what does a raised heel accomplish? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message

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People will wear whatever they wish, the more the merrier ! People use the idea of "this is how man was" and "this is how man evolved" therefore "this is man is supposed to be" only to promote whatever they are trying to sell you, be it goods or a way of life. These dayze we have the same

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What if I want to look like a noble orangutang on horseback? Or a hot noble? Seriously, Patrick, people have walked the length of continents on heels. I agree that there are extremes of style and that these are probably injurious, but heels have been around too long to allow me to dismiss them

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Ha! Well, if you want to look like nobility on horseback or an orangutang in heat, raised heels are the way to go. To my knowledge those are the only functional reasons for a raised heel, other than messing up body mechanics. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message

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Well, remember that what works for one will not always work for or be true for another. My bike shoes feel fine, though I do have narrow feet, and though I did go through a weeding process to leave behind only the shoes that are comfortable -- comfortable in that you don't think about them when

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Walking with a healthy gate involves a gentle heel first landing/roll onto a fully loaded foot which includes a dynamically moving arch helping support our weight as we pass over it to the next step. This does not apply to cycling. Running with a healthy gate involves a soft forefoot landing

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Hi Bruce, I think they are mixing form and function. The idea behind this is that you are supposed to have a minimalist heal on the shoe but this applies to walking and running, not cycling which has a another criteria. The rigid sole for cycling is there for a reason and is it is related to

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Hi Garth, You are right in that health is not in a body part but I think shoes are built around the idea of narrow feet and what looks good as opposed regards to a foot is supposed to look like when it is healthy. The LEMS shoes are wide box meaning they are have a box wide foot area up front