Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-11 Thread Mark Roland
This is what I suggested he do for the Clem, which is similar to the Bombora in terms of range-- a wheelset with some skinny 48mm Switchbacks for the pack training ride, then pop on the set with 2.6" knobbies for hitting the woods. Best to have rims with same width and brakes set up to open

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-11 Thread masmojo
I fully understand the desire to consolidate, but there's a reason you have a Redwood & a Clem in the first place & that reason is still valid. If you have the space & you don't need the money then I would stand pat & possibly tweak both bikes to further distinguish them from each other. Seems

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-10 Thread Philip Williamson
I’m a maximalist. My custom go-many-places road bike has 58mm G-Ones. However, 45mm tires work the same everywhere I ride. I ride with people on 48mm tires on the same terrain, so it’s not just me. It’s like quartz vs marble countertops - the quartz is supposedly more durable and stain

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
Maths may be tricky but "half the area difference" isn't an imaginary number. On 8/10/20 2:20 PM, William deRosset wrote: Hi, All, I apologize for comparing a 47-584 to a 2.2" tire vs the 2.1" described. Maths is tricky! 47mm to 53-584 is about 1.27X by area, a little more than half the

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-10 Thread William deRosset
Hi, All, I apologize for comparing a 47-584 to a 2.2" tire vs the 2.1" described. Maths is tricky! 47mm to 53-584 is about 1.27X by area, a little more than half the area difference between a 23 and a 28-622 tire area. Best Regards, Will On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 12:15:21 PM UTC-6,

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-10 Thread William deRosset
Dear Steve, 47 to 55-584 is is about 1.37X by area and 1.38X by volume. Compare to a 23mm to 28-622 tire 1.48X by area and 1.5X by volume. I definitely notice the difference between a 23 and a 28, and between a 28 and a 32 (using the same tire casing and adjusting the tire pressure as

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-08 Thread David B
The Clem certainly is the most versatile and I'd be more inclined to load up this one for camping trips vs the Redwood. I have 2.1" Thunderburts right now which are a pretty sweet spot, but lots of options. On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 2:57:22 PM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote: > > Those are some

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-07 Thread Mark Roland
Those are some excellent examples there, Steve. Thanks for doing the work! I'm trying to eliminate bikes too. I kind of am, but they seem to be getting replaced with Rivendells. All of the Hillibike variety, which I feel is hard to come by anywhere else. I like the utility and the fun of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-07 Thread Jason Fuller
That is some poor math there, Steve, and I don't see why you need to be so argumentative. Comparing 23 and 28 is over 20% difference in width. The difference from 47mm to 52mm is about a 10% difference in width, and both are well into the "can handle any surface" size territory. "Whopping

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

2020-08-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 8/7/20 3:03 PM, Jason Fuller wrote: While I should take my own advice when I say this, I think the difference between 47c and 2.1" is almost all in one's head The difference between 47 mm ( "47c" is fingernails screeching on a blackboard) and 2.1" is a whopping 5.3mm.   5.3mm is more