Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-13 Thread Anthony Coffin
Perfectly stated, Ben! I have a Lightningbolt Disc in large part because I wanted to support a small company that was disrupting the bike industry, but I was also curious about low trail. I plan to buy an Appaloosa in the next batch in a large part because of BRF, and secondly because I don't

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-13 Thread Philip Barrett
Confession; I got to work with Rory before his demons killed him. It was both a joy and a tragedy, he was such a prolific talent and one of the sweetest people you could meet. But daily in the studio, by mid-evening he had drunk himself to the point of no return and we spent the next 6 to 8

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-12 Thread Philip Williamson
I enjoy the “Bike Brand Guru = ‘70s Guitar God” game way more than I enjoy listening to ‘70s guitar gods. I only know Rory Gallagher from the Black 47 song “Rory.” I’ll watch the Russ video later, and then comment if I have anything to say. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Thursday, February 11, 2021

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Roland
Jason wrote: *Finally watched the video. Nothing too surprising in there but quite pragmatic. I think those who were immediately turned off by the "click bait" title are (understandably) reactionary towards this and missed the actual intention of the title: it's simply a quote of the question

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Roland
Jason wrote: Finally watched the video. Nothing too surprising in there but quite pragmatic. I think those who were immediately turned off by the "click bait" title are (understandably) reactionary towards this and missed the actual intention of the title: it's simply a quote of the question

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-12 Thread greenteadrinkers
Hahaha, love this. Riv> Creedence Clearwater Revival Surly> Captain Beefheart Bruce Gordon> Steely Dan Crust> Naplam Death On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: > Finally watched the video. Nothing too surprising in there but quite > pragmatic. I think those who

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-12 Thread Jason Fuller
Finally watched the video. Nothing too surprising in there but quite pragmatic. I think those who were immediately turned off by the "click bait" title are (understandably) reactionary towards this and missed the actual intention of the title: it's simply a quote of the question he apparently

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-12 Thread Den John
Well one of the interesting questions that follows from the Riv/Crust approach is whether anyone else is doing the same thing. If not, why? The only example I know of for certain is Stooge Cycles in the UK, which has an approach based on limited runs of production bikes made in a major Taiwanese

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Roland
I don't think anyone is disputing the notion that Rivendell and Crust are niche brands that have created a feeling, or lifestyle or culture around their brand. Those words sound not quite right and maybe a bit too premeditated. In the case of these two companies, the marketing angle is really

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-11 Thread Den John
I absolutely agree with Ben's point about how both Rivendell and Crust have tried to build up a subculture around their brands that is about more than just the bikes. At the same time, doing this helps people get an idea of what you can do with the bikes they make, e.g. the way the Scapegoat is a

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Party on, Garth  On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 3:34:10 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote: > Ray Lynch . Nothing Above My Shoulders But The Evening > > > On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 6:26:42 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote: > >> Which is better . ahahahahahah\a ... that's good one ! >> What's

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-11 Thread Garth
Ray Lynch . Nothing Above My Shoulders But The Evening On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 6:26:42 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote: > Which is better . ahahahahahah\a ... that's good one ! > What's better mean ? > (looking in the dictionary ) > ( shrugs shoulders ) > It's defined with more

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-11 Thread Garth
Which is better . ahahahahahah\a ... that's good one ! What's better mean ? (looking in the dictionary ) ( shrugs shoulders ) It's defined with more words. and each one of those words is defined by yet more words. Kinda wordy isn't it ? smiling Lots of words but doesn't

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-11 Thread Addison Wilhite
Ah... Reckoner...one of my favorite songs from my favorite band. And one of the first songs I learned when I purchased my first guitar in January 2020, PreCovid times. This live version is still my favorite: https://youtu.be/2FMP-9bn9N8 Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-10 Thread Ben Miller
Well, I guess this thread has gone entirely OT. On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 6:03:33 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote: > Richard Thompson is of the best I’ve seen. And a great songwriter. Right > now I’m leaning towards Robert Fripp but it’s hard to argue against > Thompson. > > As far as

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

2021-02-10 Thread rltilley
Richard Thompson is of the best I’ve seen. And a great songwriter. Right now I’m leaning towards Robert Fripp but it’s hard to argue against Thompson. As far as bikes go, for me old Riv > Crust while Crust > new Riv. I can’t really get into a lot of the newer frames Riv has put out but I love