Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-29 Thread masmojo
I prefer Cantis yes they are more fiddly, but I think that is sort of what I like about them! The good thing about V brakes is the lack of a cable housing stop, just run the housing all the way to the brake! This also makes rack & fender mounting easier. Is adjustment easier? Hmmm . . . I feel

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-28 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Got it. Many thanks, Kevin On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 6:14:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Basically, that the retarding force of the pads is in linear relationship > with the force applied to the lever, or to the travel of the levers. With V > brakes and mechanical discs, more than

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Basically, that the retarding force of the pads is in linear relationship with the force applied to the lever, or to the travel of the levers. With V brakes and mechanical discs, more than cantis in my experience, the relationship is less linear -- you pull the lever and get a certain retarding

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-27 Thread Kevin Lindsey
What exactly is "modulation" when applied to brakes? I've seen the word used - and have used it myself, truth be told - but never really seen a good definition. Thanks, Kevin Lindsey Alexandria, VA On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 6:30:27 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > To add precision: why

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-27 Thread Jim Bronson
There are Promax BMX Vbrakes out there that would probably allow for you to go to a smaller wheel, they have a pretty wide adjustment range. That said they are ugly and IMO would look out of place on a Rivendell.

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-27 Thread Patrick Moore
To add precision: why were the IRDs better than any Vs or discs or calipers I've used? Because with equal power, they had better modulation -- wonderful modulation. Not a huge advantage, but distinctly there. On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 4:25 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Once

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-27 Thread Patrick Moore
The levers may be few, but they are readily available; V brakes were the default for cyclocross until discs became popular. One disadvantage that V brakes have, that no one has mentioned, is that the pads have to be set close to the rim to be effective; This is more of an academic problem than a

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Once again, the best brakes I've ever used -- and I've used most types -- were IRD cantis with salmon pads set up by Rivendell staff and pulled, IIRC, by Tektro levers. So there is no inherent defect to cantis. How to get cantis to the sublime point of perfect function is a different question; so

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-26 Thread Patrick Moore
True, hydraulics are different -- more powerful. When I tried my next door neighbor's mtb with hydraulics, even a very light pull with a couple of fingers almost sent me over the bar. On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I might agree with you about

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-26 Thread Joe Bernard
I might agree with you about mechanical disks, but not so much hydraulic. I have them on my fast, heavy ebike, and they are significantly better at slowing that contraption down than my first iteration of this type of bike with v-brakes. But getting back to the OP's question, CX70s on my

Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

2017-03-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Drew: to follow up on my immediately earlier post, a properly working pair of brakes of any sort will find an additional 30 lb of very little consequence to their stopping power. I forgot to add: since cantis require housing stops, be sure to use stops that don't flex unduly. Some of the old