Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-21 Thread Jan Heine
Agreed. I should have written leading or front edge. Especially when mounting tire wipers, they should go on the trailing (front) edge of the fender, so they don't get sucked into the fender when bigger debris hits them... I apologize for any confusion. Jan Heine Bicycle Quarterly

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-21 Thread Jan Heine
Time for one last correction. Debris hits the leading or _rear_ edge of the fender and either must go through or be slow enough that it falls back onto the road without collapsing the fender. Tire wipers are mounted on the trailing or _front_ edge of the fender. Sorry for the continued

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-19 Thread Jan Heine
Most of the classic French randonneur machines had very *generous* fender clearances, and that, together with the wide, and thus stiff, fenders, seems to be the reason why there are no reports of fender accidents. Generally, more clearance is better. At some point, it doesn't look nice, and

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-19 Thread Anton Tutter
Not to nitpick, but my engineering background compels me to explain that when looking at fender/wheel dynamics, the trailing edge would be, counterintuitively, the front edge of the fender, not the rear edge. Aerodynamically, trailing edge refers to the rear of an object going through a wind

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-17 Thread Eric Norris
I’ve read Jan’s article and various emails and comments about fender clearance, but I haven’t seen anyone address the possibility that tight fender clearances improve safety by helping to *exclude* objects from being caught between the fender and tire. If I have 1cm of clearance (about a half

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-17 Thread Michael Hechmer
I think Eric's points are very well worth considering. The tighter tolerances leave little room for error. If you load your bike in the back of the car, there is a good chance that the fender will be knocked out of your perfect line. If you are prepared to live with that tight tolerance