Groan: That an unintended consequence of Riv philosophy is groups of
people who are entirely too equipment-centric.
Been a part of bicycle culture for many decades before Riv even
existed, currently has dozens of totally non-Riv related (Campy only
anyone?) counterparts. And, more to my point,
Love: That GP and friends forward a bike as you are philosophy
Groan: That an unintended consequence of Riv philosophy is groups of
people who are entirely too equipment-centric.
Bob
On Apr 11, 10:34 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
Things I love
Rambouillet, Quickbeam
Quoting Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net:
Steve:
Are the Paselas you mention the TG or the non-TG version?
Non-TG.
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Well said! Grant brought sanity back to recreational cycling, practically
single-handedly as far as I can tell. (not that I've looked much.)
I found Rivendell when I was waiting for a busted collarbone to heal, surfing
for something to replace my too-small aluminum Trek road bike. (which I
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Brad thegan...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I'm really surprised at the number of people choosing to Groan about
Rivendell. Sure, nothing and nobody is perfect but what is the point
of this really? If you have the time and energy to complain about a
company so
That's one of my favorite grant posts in a long time.
wc.
On Apr 13, 7:06 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I think someone has been listening in on our conversation...
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/125
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:05 PM, tarik saleh
Ok. I can't stand being culturally out of the loop any longer. What
is beausage?
George Strickler
On Apr 13, 8:40 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
Love: Grant's cycling philosophy and writing style, his willingness to
put new ideas into the stream, and the general wackiness like
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok. I can't stand being culturally out of the loop any longer. What
is beausage?
George Strickler
It's Grant's concept of beauty through usage. The idea that the small
nicks and scratches in your bike's paint and the
Thanks for the inquiries about the panniers, but they have been sold.
The B-68 saddle is still available.
Harry
On Apr 14, 6:37 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm interested in the panniers; are these the simple canvas ones Riv sold
briefly?
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM,
Patrick,
I'm not sure where you got sermon from my post, I said peachy not
preachy. :)
Brad
On Apr 14, 6:26 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Brad thegan...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I'm really surprised at the number of people choosing to Groan about
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok. I can't stand being culturally out of the loop any longer. What
is beausage?
George Strickler
It's Grant's concept of beauty through
And it's pronounced bow SAHHHJ despite what its inventor says!
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok. I can't stand being culturally out of the loop any longer. What
is beausage?
And all that confusion over the absence of one letter.
Patrick Moore, whose life is neither preachy nor peachy.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Brad thegan...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Patrick,
I'm not sure where you got sermon from my post, I said peachy not
preachy. :)
Brad
On Apr 14,
Yes, but as persnickety as Grant can be at times, Chris from VO can be
moreso. My favorite centers around his insistence that NOBODY needs
172.5mm cranks...170 or 175 should be enough of a choice. And here I
sit, with the money for a new set of 172.5mm Sugino Alpina cranks
burning a hole in my
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus
pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, but as persnickety as Grant can be at times, Chris from VO can be
moreso. My favorite centers around his insistence that NOBODY needs
172.5mm cranks...170 or 175 should be enough of a choice. And here I
Quoting Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com:
As far as Things I like about Rivendell, just about everything. I
don't dig the rising prices, but shopping online is a buyers market.
I'd LOVE to see a tigged steel frame from Riv in the $700 range. I'd
love to be able to buy a new frame
Please stop the groaning. It's embarrassing, it's bugging Grant, and
it serves no purpose.
On Apr 14, 11:51 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
And all that confusion over the absence of one letter.
Patrick Moore, whose life is neither preachy nor peachy.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009
Oh lighten up, alla youse!
Patrick damn well gonna groan when I want to groan Moore
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Atlantean
softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com wrote:
Please stop the groaning. It's embarrassing, it's bugging Grant, and
it serves no purpose.
On Apr 14, 11:51 am,
Quoting PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com:
Oh lighten up, alla youse!
Patrick damn well gonna groan when I want to groan Moore
It's my party and I'll
Groan if I want to
Moan if I want to
And you'd groan too
If it happened to you
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Damn, is it raining everywhere? Is that why you guys ain't riding?
Wet in Kentucky,
Bill
In a message dated 4/14/2009 2:56:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com writes:
Please stop the groaning. It's embarrassing, it's bugging Grant, and
it serves no purpose.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:27 PM, bpus...@aol.com wrote:
Damn, is it raining everywhere? Is that why you guys ain't riding?
Wet in Kentucky,
65 and sunny in Minnesota ALL WEEK. Don't be surprised if we're very
very quiet on the list this week (outside of work hours anyway).
--
Bill Connell
It's nice and mostly sunny here, and I've already put in 18 miles* (thanks
to leaving my keys at the PO and having to double back to retrieve them).
And I anticipate 11 1/2 miles home, *with* a tailwind!
* That included torking 45 lbs -- a PB -- (yep, weighed the two Jannd
Packers) up a very,
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
65 and sunny in Minnesota ALL WEEK. Don't be surprised if we're very
very quiet on the list this week (outside of work hours anyway).
I second that (especially the outside of work hours pat)! Rode my bike to
work today
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
65 and sunny in Minnesota ALL WEEK. Don't be surprised if we're very
very quiet on the list this week (outside of work hours anyway).
I second that (especially the outside of work hours pat)! Rode my bike to
work today
Since we're now giving weather reports, ride reports and in some cases
telling other list members what they should and shouldn't be doing, perhaps
this is a good time to start a new topic with appropriate subject info and
let this one whither.
- Jim / minimalistically list-admining, as this week
Grant's personal bikes are the epitomy of beausage.
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-998
Hopefully the link will work and take you to the picture of Grant's
AHH. That bike looks so perfect.
Also check this old shot of his Saluki. Be sure to scroll down to the
It looks like everyone's favorite Rivendellish web comic, Yehuda Moon and
the Kickstand Cyclery, is on an indefinite hiatus (which makes it the
Rambouillet of web comics).
http://www.yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2009-04-14
It's via this list that I first found Yehuda, and many topics mulled
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 11:50 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
And it's pronounced bow SAHHHJ despite what its inventor says!
It definitely does not rhyme with sausage
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Peter Merryman merry...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks like everyone's favorite Rivendellish web comic, Yehuda Moon and
the Kickstand Cyclery, is on an indefinite hiatus (which makes it the
Rambouillet of web comics).
Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Peter Merryman merry...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks like everyone's favorite Rivendellish web comic, Yehuda Moon and
the Kickstand Cyclery, is on an indefinite hiatus (which makes it the
Rambouillet of web comics).
You could source a Bleriot frame for your wife, and around the price
you want to pay, there are a few floating around still.
People have had success with a 650b to 700c conversion of that model.
In an archive search I found this:
I'm interested in the amount of comment my original question has
provoked. From all that I can learn from reading and sales
interactions RBW seems like a good company. I like their bikes (I have
3), but nothing is perfect and all great things are worthy of
criticism and that should be encouraged
Rivendell is a fascinating company to me, on many levels. The groans (to
me) are actually what I love most about them. I bought their wool penant and
have it on my office wall...only because I loved the product description
all time worst seller. I thought the Bombadil double top tubes were
Maybe Yehuda is off in search of a Ram?
_
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Subject: [RBW] Have a relaxing hiatus, Yehuda Moon...
I groan at the lifestyle/philosophy part. RBW is only a bike
company. I like some of the bikes, I like some of the stuff they sell,
I like some of the approach they espouse. The libertarian in me reacts
against going with everything and joining the RBW club entirely. Which
reminds me of a story a
TIG welded Riv = Surly Long Haul Trucker
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:47 AM, palin...@his.com wrote:
Quoting Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com:
As far as Things I like about Rivendell, just about everything. I
don't dig the rising prices, but shopping online is a buyers market.
I'd
I too will miss the comic. Like Pete, I found out about the strip
through this list. (And like others, thanks Rick for doing the
strip.)
Wouldn't it be great to see a Yehuda strip in the Reader? (Just a
suggestion.)
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Apr 14, 5:05�pm, Peter Merryman
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 16:51 -0700, JL wrote:
You could source a Bleriot frame for your wife, and around the price
you want to pay, there are a few floating around still.
People have had success with a 650b to 700c conversion of that model.
In an archive search I found this:
Here, here. Yehuda captured the spirit and essence of many things
discussed in this very forum. I shall miss it dearly in the interim.
On Apr 14, 8:54 pm, Kelly kingtw...@gmail.com wrote:
I too will miss the Yehuda Moon series as I checked in daily. I will
probably buy the books because I
This is the only Lone Wolf cyclist I'm aware of:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wb8bAl1P-N0/Scd_PFqVkpI/Go0/OmfzWsq8zUw/s1600-h/lonewolf.jpg
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:01 PM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.eduwrote:
I groan at the lifestyle/philosophy part. RBW is only a bike
company.
Selling this:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=all#product=20-075
as it doesn't play nice with my fork and fenders, so I opted for a
mark's rack.
I purchased this from Curtis as part of the ostrich package, all
hardware is included, it has been used but still has
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