[RBW] Dura Ace on new AHH
I'm working on a new Hilsen and have a Dura Ace RD-7800 GS 9/10 speed rear derailleur. Is anyone on the list using this with Silver downtube shifters and a Phil Wood Rivy hub with a 7-speed freewheel? Am I stuck with a 9-speed cassette configuration? I'm looking at my rear wheel options... Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dura Ace on new AHH
There are more knowledgeable people on the list who can correct me but I believe that a 7 speed chain will not work with a 9/10 speed derailleur and a 9/10 speed chain will not work on a 7 speed freewheel. If you wish to set up a 7 speed bike I think you will need to find a different rear derailleur. Good luck! Larry Powers just when you think that you've been gyped the bearded lady comes and does a double back flip - John Hiatt Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:24:58 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Dura Ace on new AHH From: stone...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I'm working on a new Hilsen and have a Dura Ace RD-7800 GS 9/10 speed rear derailleur. Is anyone on the list using this with Silver downtube shifters and a Phil Wood Rivy hub with a 7-speed freewheel? Am I stuck with a 9-speed cassette configuration? I'm looking at my rear wheel options... Brian _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage2_042009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dura Ace on new AHH
It'll work. I'd recommend a skinnier chain (9s), but there should be no problem. On Apr 28, 12:24 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on a new Hilsen and have a Dura Ace RD-7800 GS 9/10 speed rear derailleur. Is anyone on the list using this with Silver downtube shifters and a Phil Wood Rivy hub with a 7-speed freewheel? Am I stuck with a 9-speed cassette configuration? I'm looking at my rear wheel options... Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dura Ace on new AHH
Brian, I have used 8/9 speed chains on 7 speed freewheels. The only shifting problems I have are the rider induced ones. Angus On Apr 28, 9:40 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: It'll work. I'd recommend a skinnier chain (9s), but there should be no problem. On Apr 28, 12:24 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on a new Hilsen and have a Dura Ace RD-7800 GS 9/10 speed rear derailleur. Is anyone on the list using this with Silver downtube shifters and a Phil Wood Rivy hub with a 7-speed freewheel? Am I stuck with a 9-speed cassette configuration? I'm looking at my rear wheel options... Brian- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dura Ace on new AHH
I use a friction bar end shifter to run a 7 speed D-A freewheel on a Rich Lesnik built Phil hub. It works like a charm. The wheelset was on my Rambouillet for a while, but has moved over to a Nashbar. I noticed that an old Sachs 7 speed FW was too wide to work (chain up aginst the chainstay in smallest cog), but Shimano and Suntour are both fine. From: Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:24:58 AM Subject: [RBW] Dura Ace on new AHH I'm working on a new Hilsen and have a Dura Ace RD-7800 GS 9/10 speed rear derailleur. Is anyone on the list using this with Silver downtube shifters and a Phil Wood Rivy hub with a 7-speed freewheel? Am I stuck with a 9-speed cassette configuration? I'm looking at my rear wheel options... Brian --~--~ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dura Ace on new AHH
Just use a skinnier chain (9-speed) On Apr 28, 8:54 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I use a friction bar end shifter to run a 7 speed D-A freewheel on a Rich Lesnik built Phil hub. It works like a charm. The wheelset was on my Rambouillet for a while, but has moved over to a Nashbar. I noticed that an old Sachs 7 speed FW was too wide to work (chain up aginst the chainstay in smallest cog), but Shimano and Suntour are both fine. From: Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:24:58 AM Subject: [RBW] Dura Ace on new AHH I'm working on a new Hilsen and have a Dura Ace RD-7800 GS 9/10 speed rear derailleur. Is anyone on the list using this with Silver downtube shifters and a Phil Wood Rivy hub with a 7-speed freewheel? Am I stuck with a 9-speed cassette configuration? I'm looking at my rear wheel options... Brian --~--~ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] WTB: Nitto Top Rack (R14) or Mark's Rack and Quickbeam crankset
Title says it: I'm looking for a good-condition used rack; either R14 or Mark's Rack. Also looking for a Sugino crankset with chainguard, as comes on the Rivendell Quickbeam. Please reply off list if you have any of these that you'd like to sell. cheers, Andrew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Nitto Rando Bar dimensions?
I've been a bit curious about the dimensions of Nitto Rando Bars as of late. Different websites list them with differing amounts of drop- some as high as 138mm, some as low as 120mm. A couple of questions: 1. When drop is measured on these bars (or an others for that matter), are is it measured as the vertical height from the clamp to the plane of the drops, or is to center to center from ramps-drops? 2. Are there differences in dimensions (aside from clamp diameter, of course) between the 26mm Nitto Rando drops and the 25.4mm bars? 3. Anybody have a pair of these bars (I'm specifically interested in the 45cm width, 25.4mm clamp ones that VO sells) and want to measure for us? I'm interested in net drop from clamp to the drops. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Nitto Rando Bar dimensions?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I've been a bit curious about the dimensions of Nitto Rando Bars as of late. Different websites list them with differing amounts of drop- some as high as 138mm, some as low as 120mm. A couple of questions: 1. When drop is measured on these bars (or an others for that matter), are is it measured as the vertical height from the clamp to the plane of the drops, or is to center to center from ramps-drops? 2. Are there differences in dimensions (aside from clamp diameter, of course) between the 26mm Nitto Rando drops and the 25.4mm bars? 3. Anybody have a pair of these bars (I'm specifically interested in the 45cm width, 25.4mm clamp ones that VO sells) and want to measure for us? I'm interested in net drop from clamp to the drops. As long as we're discussing bars. Has anyone tried the grand bois bars that bicycle quarterly is carrying, now? -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Ride report on my favorite bike; thanks Rivendell
My day off today, I was out the door before 6AM with my new Son Schmidt hub lighting the way through town. It was in the 40s so I had on woolywarm arm warmers over two jerseys, a nylon vest, Ibex tights, and full gloves. I was on my favorite bike, a Curt-built 2001 custom road http://tinyurl.com/3wsaxg painted in sage green for the country side around here. On the south side of town I started up Little Park Road http://tinyurl.com/cq3kff with the sun rising. For over an hour I climbed to get to the top, where I sat and had breakfast in the pinyon and juniper. Then I descended into the wide spot in the road called Glade Park http://www.glade-park.com/ I continued on west of Glade Park, with virtually no traffic and birds singing and southwest winds getting stronger, until I crossed the Little Dolores river. There I u-turned and headed back to Glade Park. I continued east until I connected with the Monument road http://tinyurl.com/dldj2n Then down down in the breezy sunshine past Cold Shivers into the switchback descents, through the tunnel and finally to the east gate of the Monument. I stopped there and stripped off the wool and had a tail wind back through town. Home 4 hours later after a perfectly enjoyable ride, with yard work to do. As usual this frame disappeared underneath me. But on my way back I was more and more aware what a sweet ride it is. Nimble and responsive, but stable and confidence-building in gusty buffeting winds on a steep twisty descent. Maybe Grant was right, I should have a 12cm stem instead of the 13. Absolutely he was right, standard reach brakes instead of short. Otherwise this is the perfect bike for me. I have ridden road bikes since the 70s bike boom. This one stands out amongst them all. Thank you Grant for the design, and Curt Goodrich for the build, and Rivendell for most of the parts. What a great bike! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ride report on my favorite bike; thanks Rivendell
Nice report. I got my Redwood out for a 40-mile trip to a neighboring town (Stillwater) on Saturday. Birds singing and frogs peeping and things turning green practically before our eyes. Jacket and gloves in the morning, just a longsleeve wool shirt with MUSA pants on the ride back. Lovely. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: My day off today, I was out the door before 6AM with my new Son Schmidt hub lighting the way through town. It was in the 40s so I had on woolywarm arm warmers over two jerseys, a nylon vest, Ibex tights, and full gloves. I was on my favorite bike, a Curt-built 2001 custom road http://tinyurl.com/3wsaxg painted in sage green for the country side around here. On the south side of town I started up Little Park Road http://tinyurl.com/cq3kff with the sun rising. For over an hour I climbed to get to the top, where I sat and had breakfast in the pinyon and juniper. Then I descended into the wide spot in the road called Glade Park http://www.glade-park.com/ I continued on west of Glade Park, with virtually no traffic and birds singing and southwest winds getting stronger, until I crossed the Little Dolores river. There I u-turned and headed back to Glade Park. I continued east until I connected with the Monument road http://tinyurl.com/dldj2n Then down down in the breezy sunshine past Cold Shivers into the switchback descents, through the tunnel and finally to the east gate of the Monument. I stopped there and stripped off the wool and had a tail wind back through town. Home 4 hours later after a perfectly enjoyable ride, with yard work to do. As usual this frame disappeared underneath me. But on my way back I was more and more aware what a sweet ride it is. Nimble and responsive, but stable and confidence-building in gusty buffeting winds on a steep twisty descent. Maybe Grant was right, I should have a 12cm stem instead of the 13. Absolutely he was right, standard reach brakes instead of short. Otherwise this is the perfect bike for me. I have ridden road bikes since the 70s bike boom. This one stands out amongst them all. Thank you Grant for the design, and Curt Goodrich for the build, and Rivendell for most of the parts. What a great bike! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dura Ace on new AHH
Thanks, folks. I'll be running a 9-spd chain with this setup, so I'll see how it plays out. The front derailleur is a Dura Ace 7803 to match the Sugino triple. I'll hopefully order the wheels soon so I can get this going. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: It'll work. I'd recommend a skinnier chain (9s), but there should be no problem. On Apr 28, 12:24 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on a new Hilsen and have a Dura Ace RD-7800 GS 9/10 speed rear derailleur. Is anyone on the list using this with Silver downtube shifters and a Phil Wood Rivy hub with a 7-speed freewheel? Am I stuck with a 9-speed cassette configuration? I'm looking at my rear wheel options... Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] HTA question
The 650b Rivs have particularly slack HTAs. Why is that? The (generally) wider tires? Just curious. Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Query Concerning Chain Problem
My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Chain Problem
Sounds like a bent tooth on a chainring. On Apr 28, 8:03 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Chain Problem
Interesting theory rc, have you experienced this? To the OP: What are the number of speeds, types of shifters and brand / size of chain? Phil B On Apr 28, 8:09 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Sounds like a bent tooth on a chainring. On Apr 28, 8:03 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Chain Problem
I haven't, but I'm trying to think of what could cause the same problem to repeat itself. On Apr 28, 8:33 pm, Phil B phi...@sonic.net wrote: Interesting theory rc, have you experienced this? To the OP: What are the number of speeds, types of shifters and brand / size of chain? Phil B On Apr 28, 8:09 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Sounds like a bent tooth on a chainring. On Apr 28, 8:03 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
