[RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
As far as I can see, we bike consumer types have NOTHING to complain about. There has never been such a wide selection of bikes, parts, and accessories from which to choose. 5/6/7 speed freewheels are still available (and becoming more so, not less), if that's your thing. Yeah, you can buy 10sp or 11sp systems, too, but nobody is forcing you to do that. There is no retro-grouch persecution for us to rally around, though I will concede that you'd be hard pressed to find a new rear derailleur as crappy as what was considered state-of-the-art in the 1970s. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cnYmVWvzmnkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Citroens and Hetres
Reminds me of a place (http://www.excelsiormotors.com/) I stumbled upon when living in Lexington, KY and (bike content) riding in the middle of the Bluegrass region on the way to the Woodford Reserve Distillery for a tour. The guy is a methodical mechanic to the stubborn owners of Citroens far from their maker who want their cars to work and be right. There was no reason I could imagine for so many to be in such an improbable place. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh, PA On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 9:09:49 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: I was looking at Citroen pics on flickr when I came across this shot. Thought it might appeal to the group. http://www.flickr.com/groups/citroen/pool/with/7508017116/lightbox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GRvHZ7QG30cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?
Looks like a comfortable riding position in the picture . Like many others, I have my bars about 2 higher than the saddle/rider contact interface. That usually means the stem is up all the way, or close to it. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Or is it just me (for now) (apologies for the wimpy saddle bag. Can't wait to get a more sizeable one): -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A1oC22K3xcwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Citroens and Hetres
Wait, that's an Alfa... why's it in w/ the Citroens? On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 9:05:57 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: great photo of the rando. not particularly fond of the car - no offense thought I always like the movie gag where they tear them in half and the front end keeps running http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/paint.jpg On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 8:09:49 PM UTC-6, IanA wrote: I was looking at Citroen pics on flickr when I came across this shot. Thought it might appeal to the group. http://www.flickr.com/groups/citroen/pool/with/7508017116/lightbox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rFchgJf538YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:18 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: As far as I can see, we bike consumer types have NOTHING to complain about. There has never been such a wide selection of bikes, parts, and accessories from which to choose. 5/6/7 speed freewheels are still available (and becoming more so, not less), if that's your thing. Barely available, and with a tremendously restricted availability of gearing combinations, compared to years past. Where is the old cog board that let you make custom gearing? Where do you find 5 or 6 speed freewheels for half-step gearing? Where do you find quality freewheels? Nowhere. But it's indexed shifters where the pressure gets applied. Do you like 9 speed and brifters? What do you do when your Shimano STI units fail, as they all eventually do? Can you even buy a replacement other than NOS? Yeah, you can buy 10sp or 11sp systems, too, but nobody is forcing you to do that. Yes, actually they are forcing you. Can you get a new 7, 8 or 9 speed Ultegra or Dura Ace quality STI unit? Can you get any wide range 8 speed cassette that doesn't start with 11? Can you buy a new road bike equipped with a Shimano group of 105 quality level or above with anything but 10? Can you buy any new road bike equipped with Campagnolo that isn't either 10 or 11 (and almost all 11)? There is no retro-grouch persecution for us to rally around, though I will concede that you'd be hard pressed to find a new rear derailleur as crappy as what was considered state-of-the-art in the 1970s. Inexorable pressure and the ever-present threat of obsolescence is how I'd characterize it. Persecution is putting it a bit strong, but claiming the pressure does not exist is denying the truth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
On my last rebuild on my old Raleigh, I upgraded the 5-speed freewheel from ancient Suntour to new IRD - I found the best price at Rene Herse, but I've noticed that Harris is not carrying this model any more. Rene Herse still has a few. I bought two matching for two sets of wheels, and glad I did. It's a hyperglide design, and with a new Sram chain, shifts very smoothly, and is super quiet. If you hunt around, there are still NOS venerable Suntour and Regina 5-speeds to be found on the net. Harris has Shimano Hyperglide 6-speeds. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:31:21 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: For no more 5 speed or 6 speed freewheels in production? Been reading Rivreaders and less gears on the back wheel sounds great. But I have seen the readers talking about the dwindling availabilty of these. I am guessing that as racers needed more narrow jumps, it has grown to 11-speed cassettes. I guess that as the bike companies are pushing racing gear for regular cyclists at shops, un-racers riders are taking the bait so all the demand is for the latest racing tech stuff, causing the demise of the 5/6/7 speed freewheels/cassettes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3uc-6b27nBYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Citroens and Hetres
not a Alfa, my alfa - just showing my preference. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 6:12:32 AM UTC-6, Leslie wrote: Wait, that's an Alfa... why's it in w/ the Citroens? On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 9:05:57 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: great photo of the rando. not particularly fond of the car - no offense thought I always like the movie gag where they tear them in half and the front end keeps running http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/paint.jpg On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 8:09:49 PM UTC-6, IanA wrote: I was looking at Citroen pics on flickr when I came across this shot. Thought it might appeal to the group. http://www.flickr.com/groups/citroen/pool/with/7508017116/lightbox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/x3E-_PJ9AEwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?
if you really want to go crazy tall, you can get a 280mm Technomic from SJS in the UK http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-quill-stem-1-inch-prod27441/http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/core/spacer.gif http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/large/27441S050.jpg On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:38:57 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Or is it just me (for now) (apologies for the wimpy saddle bag. Can't wait to get a more sizeable one): -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EwqttLyYaW4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
If you hunt around, there are still NOS venerable Suntour and Regina 5-speeds to be found on the net. Harris has Shimano Hyperglide 6-speeds. I've assembled a fairly large horde of Sun Tour Winner Pro and 888 5 speed fws, so really should keep quiet. But ... The IRD are hard to find because they had quality problems. Shimano Hyperglide are a decided step down from Suntour and even what Shimano used to do. IMO the best multi-speed FWs on the market today are the White Industries Duos. Not all is lost, however. Jeff Jones modifies Shimano 9 speed cassette to a 6 speed that works with a single speed hubs. He builds it with the pricey and race oriented Chris King ISO ss hub in mind, but it works with other hubs as well. Maybe a manufacturer will catch on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/guoxE5fVJ1wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
though I will concede that you'd be hard pressed to find a new rear derailleur as crappy as what was considered state-of-the-art in the 1970s. Pretty much agree, although I wonder why it appears so hard for modern manufacturers to make a rear der as good looking as the Simplex were. For friction shifting, I could not be happier with my mid-90s (and relatively attractive) long cage Shimano Ultegra. They come up NOS or good used condition now and then, although less so than a few years back. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/61bTqc1AzCoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
Having gotten to the point in life where I have enough spares on the shelf to make it to the finish line, this is more an academic than actual discussion for me. With Loose Screws closing up, one of the few sources of good old stuff is now gone. There certainly are still new freewheels to be had, from IRD direct in 5,6 or 7 speeds http://store.interlocracing.com/fr76and5sp.html The ubiquitous Shimano Hyperglide https://shop.sunrisecyclery.com/item/13986?gclid=CNW9nOaqzLQCFQY5nAodvQUAHQ and some mega range cheap stuff for comfort/mountain style use. The Grouch is right that the rich selections once avail are gone, but that is the way of almost any technology. We can still make it work though. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:18 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: As far as I can see, we bike consumer types have NOTHING to complain about. There has never been such a wide selection of bikes, parts, and accessories from which to choose. 5/6/7 speed freewheels are still available (and becoming more so, not less), if that's your thing. Barely available, and with a tremendously restricted availability of gearing combinations, compared to years past. Where is the old cog board that let you make custom gearing? Where do you find 5 or 6 speed freewheels for half-step gearing? Where do you find quality freewheels? Nowhere. But it's indexed shifters where the pressure gets applied. Do you like 9 speed and brifters? What do you do when your Shimano STI units fail, as they all eventually do? Can you even buy a replacement other than NOS? Yeah, you can buy 10sp or 11sp systems, too, but nobody is forcing you to do that. Yes, actually they are forcing you. Can you get a new 7, 8 or 9 speed Ultegra or Dura Ace quality STI unit? Can you get any wide range 8 speed cassette that doesn't start with 11? Can you buy a new road bike equipped with a Shimano group of 105 quality level or above with anything but 10? Can you buy any new road bike equipped with Campagnolo that isn't either 10 or 11 (and almost all 11)? There is no retro-grouch persecution for us to rally around, though I will concede that you'd be hard pressed to find a new rear derailleur as crappy as what was considered state-of-the-art in the 1970s. Inexorable pressure and the ever-present threat of obsolescence is how I'd characterize it. Persecution is putting it a bit strong, but claiming the pressure does not exist is denying the truth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Year's Day in the Napa Valley 2013
I love the California green; it doesn't take much rain to make the place look wonderful. I've taken people thru that area who've toured in Europe been impressed with how scenic the area is. Dry Creek Rd is a whole lot nicer than Provence was one comment. Why does it have to be a competition? They are both uniquely lovely places - which also happen to be great places to ride. Napa has an overall better control over crappy new development than Provence, but try as I might, I've never been to happen upon pristine Roman and Greek ruins in Nor Cal. Eric - I have you as a contact on my Ipad Flickr Stacker (highly recommended app) - your pictures from the last few weeks are amazing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ezkav3o0tv0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: ISO pannier capable back rack
Where are you at? I have a new Riv Nitto Big Rack I bought a while back. I don't have a box but would be willing to sell it at discount to someone who can meet me in the Northwest Side of Chicago. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-i65P965gaoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
For most people, a 5,6.7 speed is a hard sell. *Perception *is EVERYTHING. more=better blah , etc. 7 is heaven for me :)I had the foresight to buy up a lifetime supply of 7sp. Sachs FW's and have collected barely used cogs along the way ;) To make a full 5,6,7 speed FW system with cogs and all today would be a labor of love. * So who loves it enough to do it* ? That's the only question to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ybLUGLvYBawJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Citroens and Hetres
Well that's MY grand-campeur. It's so very cool, and now you all know why I want a diagono-Bomb. Alex On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 8:06:07 PM UTC-8, Mike wrote: That link took me down the internet rabbit hole and led me to this: http://cycledefrance.com/2012/04/13/grand-campeur/ I think it caught my eye after riding with a couple of folks with double TT bikes earlier today. --mike On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 6:09:49 PM UTC-8, IanA wrote: I was looking at Citroen pics on flickr when I came across this shot. Thought it might appeal to the group. http://www.flickr.com/groups/citroen/pool/with/7508017116/lightbox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/V9J-Maw-bsQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
I've got 4 13-21 7 speed Shimano 600 FWs from a box I bought off the CR list and I found a ready buyer and a good price for the remaining 12 lbs of FWs and parts. Old ones are still out there. Do racers really want 10 or 11 in back? If all were using 5 speeds with dt shifters, would they beg for more cogs and sti? I wonder. Patrick Moore iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: On my last rebuild on my old Raleigh, I upgraded the 5-speed freewheel from ancient Suntour to new IRD - I found the best price at Rene Herse, but I've noticed that Harris is not carrying this model any more. Rene Herse still has a few. I bought two matching for two sets of wheels, and glad I did. It's a hyperglide design, and with a new Sram chain, shifts very smoothly, and is super quiet. If you hunt around, there are still NOS venerable Suntour and Regina 5-speeds to be found on the net. Harris has Shimano Hyperglide 6-speeds. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:31:21 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: For no more 5 speed or 6 speed freewheels in production? Been reading Rivreaders and less gears on the back wheel sounds great. But I have seen the readers talking about the dwindling availabilty of these. I am guessing that as racers needed more narrow jumps, it has grown to 11-speed cassettes. I guess that as the bike companies are pushing racing gear for regular cyclists at shops, un-racers riders are taking the bait so all the demand is for the latest racing tech stuff, causing the demise of the 5/6/7 speed freewheels/cassettes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3uc-6b27nBYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] First RBW visit
Pics or it didn't happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rTKT8zMiyAIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just riding in cold weather; also Silk Dikie, fin, and cold weather riding garb: how much is just right?, and Post Ride Drinks.
I'm not Patrick but I did get a shot of a snow ride I did just before the new year--MUSA pants are indeed great in the winter. Wool (Smartwool, mostly) under them and on top, too...not the most Rivish bike but a fun time... http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/8322712653/ Steve On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, you know what Manny says... pictures proved it happened --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ImneCXUdtSMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
Steve, I noticed recently that qbp is stocking a new line of pricey freewheels with lots of gearing options. I forget the name and I'm not in a place where I could look it up right now. I don't know if that brand has the interchangeability and customizability of old Sun Tour freewheels. But here is a case where the industry is responding to the demand for this kind of thing. There will always be people who want a carburetor instead of a fuel injector, or send handwritten letters instead of email, or old discontinued parts instead of what is currently available. Keeping an old bike on the road is one thing. Setting up a new bike deliberately with obsolete parts is to swim against the current. Many of us here fall into the latter category. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sVUqvXVJagsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
Backing up Jim, I looked to QBP and they do offer a line of freewheels from DNP. 7, 8, 9 and 10 speed freewheels (a 10 speed freewheel?!?!). All with an 11 small cog. Aside from that, they have the standard Falcon low end 5 speeders, the Shimanopores and the SunRace offerings. None of those approach the fundamental versatility that Steve P was reckoning back to. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:43:20 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Steve, I noticed recently that qbp is stocking a new line of pricey freewheels with lots of gearing options. I forget the name and I'm not in a place where I could look it up right now. I don't know if that brand has the interchangeability and customizability of old Sun Tour freewheels. But here is a case where the industry is responding to the demand for this kind of thing. There will always be people who want a carburetor instead of a fuel injector, or send handwritten letters instead of email, or old discontinued parts instead of what is currently available. Keeping an old bike on the road is one thing. Setting up a new bike deliberately with obsolete parts is to swim against the current. Many of us here fall into the latter category. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Dwa5chK-7cEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
I think to a point you are right. However in my opinion everything evolves. I am very happy with 9-speed stuff. I was also happy with my 10 speed stuff. The only reason I am on 9-speed instead of 10 is friction shifting and chain life. I know that the one tooth jumps in fast group rides for me were a life saver for keeping up and maintaing contact with the stronger faster packs I was riding with at the time. Even in slower casual group rides it's nice to have a wide choice of cruising gears. (not needed but nice) Actually I'm hoping for some nice electronic shifting buttons / system, belt drive, powered by my dyno hub. I'll just add my bike to my AAA card and call it a day. :) Oh man.. I forgot to order my power handle bars and heated saddle. I'm guilty and will take blame .. but I am also not missing 5 speed drivetrains.. my opinion only and not saying I'm right,, just me. Kelly On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:31:21 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: For no more 5 speed or 6 speed freewheels in production? Been reading Rivreaders and less gears on the back wheel sounds great. But I have seen the readers talking about the dwindling availabilty of these. I am guessing that as racers needed more narrow jumps, it has grown to 11-speed cassettes. I guess that as the bike companies are pushing racing gear for regular cyclists at shops, un-racers riders are taking the bait so all the demand is for the latest racing tech stuff, causing the demise of the 5/6/7 speed freewheels/cassettes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ncH076z_6ekJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
that's just it Kelly there is No One To Blame Everyone is right in their perspectives. We have all these speed choices, and that's a good thing ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/McQd8wXhkT0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
I know that the one tooth jumps in fast group rides for me were a life saver for keeping up and maintaing contact with the stronger faster packs I was riding with at the time. Even in slower casual group rides it's nice to have a wide choice of cruising gears. (not needed but nice) There's the rub for me anyway. If I did club or group riding, fitting in with the crowd may be the way to go. I use my Suntour FWs on my tour and commuting bikes - and note - the hubs on both are MaxiCar, may have done something different otherwise. Aside from the earlier referenced Jeff Jones 6, I find most of the new off the shelf cassette and hub offerings are directed more to the club and group riders than touring and commuting. The vacuum, IMO, this leaves is part of the reason expensive and heavy IGHs have become so popular. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KskgOXTtqj4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)
Why did I know that Steve P would be fully familiar with 19th century photographic techniques? ;-) -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:15 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow) On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 14:57 -0800, William wrote: Is that photo-documentation of Steve Palinscar smiling? No, it's me, not my evil twin PalinSCar. He never smiles. Or is his balaclava just smooshing the sides of his face upwards? The balaclava I'm wearing is so old and worn from use it's no longer is capable of smooshing anything. It's taken years to get it this comfortable. I got a new one a couple of years ago, but it's so tight I can't wear my sunglasses when I have it on, so it stays unworn in the bike box. I had Steve pegged as one of those 19th century souls who prefers not to smile for the camera. Actually, those 19th century souls were holding still for very long exposures (20 seconds to 5 minutes). The neck braces that held their heads still were artfully concealed in the photos. Those collodion wet plates had an ISO speed of 6 - 10, and Daguerreotype was even slower. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)
That looks fun. Two chain breaks, same rider? Sheesh. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:00 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow) On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 16:47 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/8340027626/in/photostream Hmmm, can't figure out what MLK is saying about us! I assume he's saying what the Park Ranger told us when he kicked us out of the memorial: No bikes allowed! You can tell he meant it by the stern expression on his face... I am standing with the Bleriot (of course) - that's Steve Palincsar to my right with his George Longstaff (very handsome lugged bike). We rode from near National Harbor in Maryland, across the Wilson Bridge to Old Town Alexandria in Virginia, then along the Potomac River, crossing over to D.C. and regrouping at the Jefferson Memorial. Our group of 12 then toured some of the sites of DC: Martin Luther King Memorial, World War II memorial, White House, Capitol (where the House of Representatives flag was flying because they were debating the fiscal cliff bill). We passed many of the Smithsonian museums, and the Washington Monument, too. A fun time but a tour, not a fast ride. My first time on the Cycletracks in downtown DC, too: they implemented them after I retired quit commuting to downtown DC. I'd ridden on those streets before, of course, but it was rather strange riding in the left-most lane on Pennsylvania Ave. Of course, there was almost no traffic, either bicycle or motor vehicle. Joan neglected to mention another of the highlights of the ride: two chain breaks (same rider, same chain, broke twice) with accompanying roadside repairs. Joan had a multi-tool with a decent chain tool attachment that saved the day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
Perspective re-alignment: take five deep breaths and close your eyes: imagine Fausto Coppi climbing the Stelvio in a 48/18 -- my flatland cruising gear!! -- [Even though the Stelvio is two weeks away, I am already looking forward to it. I was flipping through May 2012 ProCycling Mag (the one with Ivan Basso on the cover in front of the Stelvio). On page 58, they recap the 1953 climb where Fausto started the legend and won the Giro. The thing that really stands out is he climbed the route in a massive 48x18 when the road was still gravel. I'd want a 34x25. 48x18 Doesn't really seem human.] I used to obsess about gearing: during boring staff meetings I'd work out gear combinations on scratch paper. When 9 and 10 speed drivetrains came out in the late '90s and early oughts I'd fret about whether a 2X10 was better than a close ratio 3X7. I used to favor close ratio triples. I liked a 1X10 on my gofast. But slowly I began to see the vanity of this worldly worry and slowly I began to simplify my life with -- fixed drivetrains! Life became so much more simple and rewarding. And I realized: It doesn't matter! Talk about just ride and no shoes ruze! Just jettison your cogsets and be free! You have nothing to lose but your chains! (That was Marx and Engels, but what they really meant was: Keep your chains! Just lose the extra cogs!) Slightly less feverishly: Me, I like simplicity and low dish and narrow Q, so, for Me, a 2X7 is better than a 1X10. But give me a downhill gear of 90, a low of 40 and a 60, 65, 70, and 75, and I'm happy. Again, if all racers had to use Merckx's gearing, would they really be unhappy? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I think to a point you are right. However in my opinion everything evolves. I am very happy with 9-speed stuff. I was also happy with my 10 speed stuff. The only reason I am on 9-speed instead of 10 is friction shifting and chain life. I know that the one tooth jumps in fast group rides for me were a life saver for keeping up and maintaing contact with the stronger faster packs I was riding with at the time. Even in slower casual group rides it's nice to have a wide choice of cruising gears. (not needed but nice) Actually I'm hoping for some nice electronic shifting buttons / system, belt drive, powered by my dyno hub. I'll just add my bike to my AAA card and call it a day. :) Oh man.. I forgot to order my power handle bars and heated saddle. I'm guilty and will take blame .. but I am also not missing 5 speed drivetrains.. my opinion only and not saying I'm right,, just me. Kelly On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:31:21 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: For no more 5 speed or 6 speed freewheels in production? Been reading Rivreaders and less gears on the back wheel sounds great. But I have seen the readers talking about the dwindling availabilty of these. I am guessing that as racers needed more narrow jumps, it has grown to 11-speed cassettes. I guess that as the bike companies are pushing racing gear for regular cyclists at shops, un-racers riders are taking the bait so all the demand is for the latest racing tech stuff, causing the demise of the 5/6/7 speed freewheels/cassettes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ncH076z_6ekJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
Slightly less feverishly: Me, I like simplicity and low dish and narrow Q, so, for Me, a 2X7 is better than a 1X10. But give me a downhill gear of 90, a low of 40 and a 60, 65, 70, and 75, and I'm happy. Like it. And don't leave the tour and cycle commuters the lower end stuff. We need quality just as much or more so than the racers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UftDGTUtsDYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:25:55 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Do racers really want 10 or 11 in back? If all were using 5 speeds with dt shifters, would they beg for more cogs and sti? I wonder. I appreciate the granularity of 10spd when I'm on the limit. A tightly spaced cassette helps me maintain my optimal cadence, a good rhythm and some sense of composure - it's probably a comfort thing as much as a performance thing. I only think about it on the road and when riding very hard - I just don't want to burn more matches than I have to by excessive spinning/mashing. My CX and MTBs are 8spd and that's plenty for me, even when racing. I could probably get away with 5spd on the MTB and get the same results . . .. just prefer more modern components. The road is just a different beast. As for brifters, I think they're great and I'm glad they are more or less standard issue because bike handling seems to be afterthought for a lot of amateur racers. Riding in a peloton full of twitchy riders on twitchy bikes, I like to see undistracted hands, on the bars, as much as possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sA_eOmTYZosJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just riding in cold weather; also Silk Dikie, fin, and cold weather riding garb: how much is just right?, and Post Ride Drinks.
Yes, Wooly Warm tights under MUSA pants is an excellent winter combo. Layering up top works well too in the cold and damp. Spot Cycles (Vancouver) made some really nice heavy wool jerseys for when it gets seriously cold. Nice pic On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not Patrick but I did get a shot of a snow ride I did just before the new year--MUSA pants are indeed great in the winter. Wool (Smartwool, mostly) under them and on top, too...not the most Rivish bike but a fun time... http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/8322712653/ Steve On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, you know what Manny says... pictures proved it happened --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ImneCXUdtSMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Only ourselves to blame?
BTW, here is the link to a very nice man who services and sells freewheels. He's the one who bought my stash of old ones. http://www.freewheelspa.com/ On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Slightly less feverishly: Me, I like simplicity and low dish and narrow Q, so, for Me, a 2X7 is better than a 1X10. But give me a downhill gear of 90, a low of 40 and a 60, 65, 70, and 75, and I'm happy. Like it. And don't leave the tour and cycle commuters the lower end stuff. We need quality just as much or more so than the racers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UftDGTUtsDYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?
I tried raising my Tech Dlx on the Riv the first time I rode it. It felt like I was master of all I survey, way up there; just short of circus-worthy. But it's perfect down where it is now, what with all the spacers and head tube extension. I just purchased from another BOB a Tech Dlx to get the bars on my beater up to where the Riv's are. Still doesn't feel like the Riv's fine fit, but a heckuva lot better. Joe K On Jan 3, 8:35 am, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: if you really want to go crazy tall, you can get a 280mm Technomic from SJS in the UKhttp://www.sjscycles.co.uk/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-quill-stem-1-inch-...http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/core/spacer.gif http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/large/27441S050.jpg On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:38:57 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Or is it just me (for now) (apologies for the wimpy saddle bag. Can't wait to get a more sizeable one): -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] First RBW visit
I didn't take any pics at Riv, since I've already seen pics of pretty much everything I saw there. I did take a quick spin on one of the Appaloosa bikes, though this one had a Riv head badge, not an Appaloosa head badge. The one I tried had 650B wheels. It was a stately, regal experience to ride such a stable, upright, luxurious feeling bike. That said, it probably isn't my cup of tea. Or maybe it is. Come to think of it, I have at least one photo of the employee bike rack to post to Facebook. And I think I already posted a photo of a super-long reach caliper brake that was lying around. Makes a person wonder. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0fTGSgVulj4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?
I've got my Specialized Aero stem*, 8 cm, at near max height on the '99 57 cm Joe custom 650C fixie; this puts the bar about 3 cm below saddle. With the Sam I owned briefly I had the bar ~ 2 above saddle thanks to the long stop tube and 10 cm stem (not to mention the 46 cm Noodles) and it wasn't bad, but it didn't feel as good as the current Fargo with bar about 1 cm above saddle and a 57 cm tt and 42 Noodles. And the Fargo doesn't feel as good as the Rivs with identical setups. *Riv used to sell these way back when. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Or is it just me (for now) (apologies for the wimpy saddle bag. Can't wait to get a more sizeable one): -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A1oC22K3xcwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. attachment: images.jpeg
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
Yep, 9 and 10 spd freewheels exist. The application I know about for these rarities are electric assist rear hubs such as BionX, which use flex of the rear axle as a strain gauge to determine when the rider is pedaling, to activate the assist system. I haven't examined one of these freewheels closely, but not that I could tell much from the outside. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding, and in this case is weather these things can stand up to years of use (beyond occasional usage) and weather and not explode like the IRD and Shimano ones are known to. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:07:45 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Backing up Jim, I looked to QBP and they do offer a line of freewheels from DNP. 7, 8, 9 and 10 speed freewheels (a 10 speed freewheel?!?!). All with an 11 small cog. Aside from that, they have the standard Falcon low end 5 speeders, the Shimanopores and the SunRace offerings. None of those approach the fundamental versatility that Steve P was reckoning back to. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:43:20 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Steve, I noticed recently that qbp is stocking a new line of pricey freewheels with lots of gearing options. I forget the name and I'm not in a place where I could look it up right now. I don't know if that brand has the interchangeability and customizability of old Sun Tour freewheels. But here is a case where the industry is responding to the demand for this kind of thing. There will always be people who want a carburetor instead of a fuel injector, or send handwritten letters instead of email, or old discontinued parts instead of what is currently available. Keeping an old bike on the road is one thing. Setting up a new bike deliberately with obsolete parts is to swim against the current. Many of us here fall into the latter category. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/56VoHDUAutQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] ISO Phil bb rings
Does anyone have a pair of rings, standard English, for sale at a reasonable price? I was offered a suitable Phil bb assembly for $30 but it has no rings. Thanks. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] And the winner is...
Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/C_0NJXdV5acJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Needing a new front fork for my 51cm Bleriot...
I was finally, after many decades of bike commuting, struck by a car this morning. While I hurt, I think I'll be ok. Can't say the same for Bleriot. At the least, it will need a new fork... I'll call Rivendell later today, but maybe one of you has a lonesome fork? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7MrPv5r6fBQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congrats Liesl! Can't wait to see what you come up with. It was fun to fantasize about the possibilities if I had won, but now back to focusing on refining my current rides. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XQ-ArWcTns0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congrats! Have fun with it! (... and now back to reality for me!) -Pete in CT On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:00:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2kOUVHSYyz8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] And the winner is...
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[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HybXeXX0cpwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Needing a new front fork for my 51cm Bleriot...
Glad you're ok. Good luck with the fork hunt. --Smitty On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:07:55 AM UTC-8, Lynne Fitz wrote: I was finally, after many decades of bike commuting, struck by a car this morning. While I hurt, I think I'll be ok. Can't say the same for Bleriot. At the least, it will need a new fork... I'll call Rivendell later today, but maybe one of you has a lonesome fork? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QDk2K1GZuAUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congrats! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HybXeXX0cpwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Yeah. I was not in the contest but certainly cannot think of a better person to win. It will be fun to see the finished product. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:22:39 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D1OEC3bEpHsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Needing a new front fork for my 51cm Bleriot...
I have an Atlantis and a Hunqapillar fork. Don't know if they'll work on
the Bleriot.
Glad you're OK.
René
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I'll call Rivendell later today, but maybe one of you has a lonesome fork?
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons
Yeah, the tap is better--I twisted a bolt right off in a braze-on trying to clear the paint! Never did get that bolt stump removed either... Steve On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I say buy the tap.The advantage to a tap -- VS a bolt -- is the channels on the sides of the tap let the paint follow out as the tap is twisted into the thread pattern. Using a bolt pushes the shaved paint through the threads in front of it. Plus, a tap is tapered at the entry, so proper alignment onto already cut threads s much easier, and the threads will stay intact. By the way, with a properly sized tap, you won't need much torgue to shave off the paint from the threads From: William tapebu...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, December 30, 2012 9:28:06 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons And for prices, my Ace Hardware in El Cerrito had the handle for $6, and the taps for $5 each. I bought the M5 and M6, and have only used the M5. It is step 1 for any new frameset now at my workbench. On Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:23:43 AM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Like others have said... clean the threads with a tap. you'll need 3 things... a handle, an M5 tap, and a drop of oil to lube the tap/threads to prevent binding when you're reaming it out. Any hardware or home improvement store should have a tap and handle. --Smitty On Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:24:49 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: Seems like the paint was perhaps applied a bit too generously. Never had this problem on any other frame. On a couple of brazeons, I have so far been unable to get a bolt in, even when using a bit of oil and much patience in lining up the bolt. Any suggestions? I don't have a wire brush small enough to fit in the holes. Maybe nail polish on a Q- tip? Does that have any chance of working? Other ideas? Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PhC-oaj84iYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Awesome! Congrats, Liesl! Brian Seattle, WA On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I was not in the contest but certainly cannot think of a better person to win. It will be fun to see the finished product. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:22:39 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D1OEC3bEpHsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Agreed, hard to think of a better person to win! On Jan 3, 2013 1:38 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! Congrats, Liesl! Brian Seattle, WA On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I was not in the contest but certainly cannot think of a better person to win. It will be fun to see the finished product. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:22:39 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D1OEC3bEpHsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Very Very Exciting! Congrats! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BXu6cNFj1scJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Needing a new front fork for my 51cm Bleriot...
Damn, sorry to hear that! Take care of yourself Lynne. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I have an Atlantis and a Hunqapillar fork. Don't know if they'll work on the Bleriot. Glad you're OK. René On Thursday, January 3, 2013, Lynne Fitz wrote: I was finally, after many decades of bike commuting, struck by a car this morning. While I hurt, I think I'll be ok. Can't say the same for Bleriot. At the least, it will need a new fork... I'll call Rivendell later today, but maybe one of you has a lonesome fork? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7MrPv5r6fBQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Awesome! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:50 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Very Very Exciting! Congrats! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BXu6cNFj1scJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congratulations! I've seen an Appaloosa, but now I want to see what a Chica Warhorse looks like. Roger On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/J0_t2zPCWnIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
RCW posted a little while back about her admiration of a pair of Wilbury/Glorius lugs. Maybe that seed will take root. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-8, Roger wrote: Congratulations! I've seen an Appaloosa, but now I want to see what a Chica Warhorse looks like. Roger On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_-UAZiX7x1QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
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[RBW] Re: Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?
How much post do you have showing? How tall are you? What's your PBH? What's the frame size? How did you arrive at that frame size? To my eye, you could be on a larger frame, but that conclusion is based on very limited data. I'll admit that, although I understand choosing an upright position, I do not belong to the sit-up-and-beg club. For sporty riding, rolling that much of my weight backwards on the bike makes me feel unbalanced and uncentered, and restricts the contribution that my lower back and glutes make to the pedal action. I've arrived at a point somewhere between Competitive Cyclist's Eddy fit and French fit, and my constant tweaks to my position seem to always cycle back and forth within that range. As an aside, it's interesting to me that many European cycletourists have gone to flat or even trekking bars in order to achieve a relaxed upright position. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YvQmOb-weBcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Needing a new front fork for my 51cm Bleriot...
Lynne, really sorry to hear about the accident. Coming out of such things ok is a great gift. At least that was my experience. Take care of yourself and get everything checked out without delay even if it seems minor. Nerve bruises can linger a bit and sometimes lead to muscle sorenesses through compensation. Nothing to be alarmed or worried about, but I point it out to make sure you get the care you need and any compensation that you are due. Don't take anything for granted and look out for yourself. Sorry I don't have a fork, but I predict you'll find something good. And if color doesn't match, use it as an excuse to do a repaint. Spruced up bike is a great way to move on from an accident after you are healed and affairs settled. Good luck! - Jim W. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: I was finally, after many decades of bike commuting, struck by a car this morning. While I hurt, I think I'll be ok. Can't say the same for Bleriot. At the least, it will need a new fork... I'll call Rivendell later today, but maybe one of you has a lonesome fork? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7MrPv5r6fBQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congratulations indeed! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! Congrats, Liesl! Brian Seattle, WA On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I was not in the contest but certainly cannot think of a better person to win. It will be fun to see the finished product. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:22:39 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D1OEC3bEpHsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
That's super! We're all looking forward to hearing your plans, seeing some images a bit further on, and, of course, getting that first ride report. Good luck! Aloha, Bob On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:18 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations indeed! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! Congrats, Liesl! Brian Seattle, WA On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I was not in the contest but certainly cannot think of a better person to win. It will be fun to see the finished product. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:22:39 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D1OEC3bEpHsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: [GoneRiding] For Sale: 57.5cm 1993 Bridgestone RB-1/7
That's one pretty bike. I wish it fit me. I have a 47 Betty so I think it's too big. PBH is 73, saddle height s/b about 63 but I still think it's too big. I don't know how these things work. I just asked Riv what size and the Betty is perfect. Let me know if you think I may be able to ride it. On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:01:58 PM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Am forwarding this at req. of Jim G - somebody be a good BOB and go n' git it! Not the seller, but friend of... he's probably okay ;-) Happy 2013, =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- Forwarded message -- From: jim g ji...@yojimg.net javascript: Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:38:13 -0800 Finally getting around to selling my RB-1/7. 57.5cm size. Awesome, near original condition! Asking $900. Details at the CL post... http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/3513452547.html More photos are at http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDqvsa2 Please forward to iBOB and RBW -- I'm not on either of those lists these days. Thanks! -Jim G -- from jimg at yojimg dot net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BQ2hhWfF-7cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Congrats Liesl!
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Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:22 -0800, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! Agreed. Congratulations! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
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RE: [RBW] One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 16:30 +, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: That looks fun. Two chain breaks, same rider? Sheesh. Yes. It's possible the first fix wasn't perfect. It's also a fact that chains like that aren't meant to be broken in the old fashion, and any push-the-pin-in-and-out solution is strictly a temporary fix. It's just that nobody ever said how long temporary was -- and it turned out to be a lot shorter than I expected! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 16:26 +, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: Why did I know that Steve P would be fully familiar with 19th century photographic techniques? ;-) I've only read about most of them. I have made gum bichromate prints, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Good going, Liesl. I am happy for you and glad you are the one. Best to you and E. -jb On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats Liesl! Can't wait to see what you come up with. It was fun to fantasize about the possibilities if I had won, but now back to focusing on refining my current rides. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XQ-ArWcTns0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congrats Liesl! --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
What a cool contest. Congratulations on winning Liesl, and have fun on what'll undoubtedly be a heckova sweet custom! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 3:01:26 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote: Congrats Liesl! --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Wd4coKYJy_AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
What a cool contest. Congratulations Liesl, and have fun on your new custom! I look forward to seeing what you and Riv come up with! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W1NAhhwcLSMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congratulations! Happy trails, Liesl... On Thursday, January 3, 2013 3:01:26 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote: Congrats Liesl! --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tn_TbcwqdM0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] And the winner is...
Great news! Congratulations! Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Thursday, January 3, 2013, Mike wrote: Congrats Liesl! --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Congrats Liesl!
Woot woot! Congrats! On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/z51xLrfDbYwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Riv Chica Guererra Rocks On!! Salud! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Matthew J [matthewj...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:25 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: And the winner is... Yeah. I was not in the contest but certainly cannot think of a better person to win. It will be fun to see the finished product. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:22:39 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D1OEC3bEpHsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Ay, ay, ay! Geurerrano Guerrerasi Salud all the same, Leisl! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marc Schwartz [mschw...@nmsu.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:44 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: And the winner is... Riv Chica Guererra Rocks On!! Salud! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Matthew J [matthewj...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:25 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: And the winner is... Yeah. I was not in the contest but certainly cannot think of a better person to win. It will be fun to see the finished product. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:22:39 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Riv Chica Warrior... Awesome! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D1OEC3bEpHsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons
Tap is the best way.. I couldn't find mine and had to get the rack on so (don't do this at home) I just took a knife and scraped the paint off the outer side of the braze on. The bolt went right in afterwards.. :) Not to mention it covered up my laziness. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:34:50 PM UTC-6, stevef wrote: Yeah, the tap is better--I twisted a bolt right off in a braze-on trying to clear the paint! Never did get that bolt stump removed either... Steve On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Ray Shine r.s...@sbcglobal.netjavascript: wrote: I say buy the tap.The advantage to a tap -- VS a bolt -- is the channels on the sides of the tap let the paint follow out as the tap is twisted into the thread pattern. Using a bolt pushes the shaved paint through the threads in front of it. Plus, a tap is tapered at the entry, so proper alignment onto already cut threads s much easier, and the threads will stay intact. By the way, with a properly sized tap, you won't need much torgue to shave off the paint from the threads From: William tape...@gmail.com javascript: To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Sun, December 30, 2012 9:28:06 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons And for prices, my Ace Hardware in El Cerrito had the handle for $6, and the taps for $5 each. I bought the M5 and M6, and have only used the M5. It is step 1 for any new frameset now at my workbench. On Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:23:43 AM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Like others have said... clean the threads with a tap. you'll need 3 things... a handle, an M5 tap, and a drop of oil to lube the tap/threads to prevent binding when you're reaming it out. Any hardware or home improvement store should have a tap and handle. --Smitty On Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:24:49 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: Seems like the paint was perhaps applied a bit too generously. Never had this problem on any other frame. On a couple of brazeons, I have so far been unable to get a bolt in, even when using a bit of oil and much patience in lining up the bolt. Any suggestions? I don't have a wire brush small enough to fit in the holes. Maybe nail polish on a Q- tip? Does that have any chance of working? Other ideas? Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PhC-oaj84iYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hbsDo9QNJzkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Cygolite Metro Review
Iv'e had my Cygolite Metro 420 for a few commutes and night time grocery runs and it's great. I bought it from Amazon before realizing Riv was carrying the 300s on their site. I highly recommend this model and can testify that the 300 is sufficient for most uses. The situation where all off my 420 lumens is useful is also the situation I probably need long battery life and those two things are mutually exclusive. I use the day blinky during the day, the nighttime blinky on lit roads at night, and the low setting for the trail at night. It has the fancy feature of being able to turn it on and off without cycling through all the modes. Here it is on Riv priced so low you really don't need to shop around: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lt006.htm - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Jv5sDtppb6IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congrats Liesl! And thanks Grant for a great (and generous) contest that made crawling out of the holidays back into the work world something to look forward to. I had more fun thinking about winning the raffle than about any other contest I've entered and not won! Gary On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:00:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8HZGKOkJy7wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons
Steve, Please forgive my redundancy all over again, but; If that broken bolt is still stuck in the hourglass (or any) braze-on, you can carefully drill it out using a #19 or 11/64 drill. Go slowly and use a few drops of oil (Phil Tenacious works as a decent cutting oil in a pinch). After drilling, run your trusty M5 tap through (again, carefully with oil) to clean up the threads. Good luck Marc From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Steven Frederick [stl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:34 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons Yeah, the tap is better--I twisted a bolt right off in a braze-on trying to clear the paint! Never did get that bolt stump removed either... Steve On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I say buy the tap.The advantage to a tap -- VS a bolt -- is the channels on the sides of the tap let the paint follow out as the tap is twisted into the thread pattern. Using a bolt pushes the shaved paint through the threads in front of it. Plus, a tap is tapered at the entry, so proper alignment onto already cut threads s much easier, and the threads will stay intact. By the way, with a properly sized tap, you won't need much torgue to shave off the paint from the threads From: William tapebu...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, December 30, 2012 9:28:06 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons And for prices, my Ace Hardware in El Cerrito had the handle for $6, and the taps for $5 each. I bought the M5 and M6, and have only used the M5. It is step 1 for any new frameset now at my workbench. On Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:23:43 AM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Like others have said... clean the threads with a tap. you'll need 3 things... a handle, an M5 tap, and a drop of oil to lube the tap/threads to prevent binding when you're reaming it out. Any hardware or home improvement store should have a tap and handle. --Smitty On Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:24:49 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: Seems like the paint was perhaps applied a bit too generously. Never had this problem on any other frame. On a couple of brazeons, I have so far been unable to get a bolt in, even when using a bit of oil and much patience in lining up the bolt. Any suggestions? I don't have a wire brush small enough to fit in the holes. Maybe nail polish on a Q- tip? Does that have any chance of working? Other ideas? Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PhC-oaj84iYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congratulations Liesl! Hope they do it again next year. It was fun just reading about people's ideas. Got that 650b Legolas rolling around in my brain, that's for sure. Rick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Waxed Canvas Bag Instructions
For the DIY set I found these instructions on waxing canvas bags that might be useful. Disclaimer, I've not done this myself so I can't claim this works or is even a good idea. I imagine it might be useful for some though. The article is really about camera bags, but it's not such a far stretch to other canvas bags one might have floating around. http://www.diyphotography.net/spoil-your-camera-with-a-diy-waxed-camera-bag Aloha, Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 07:43 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Steve, I noticed recently that qbp is stocking a new line of pricey freewheels with lots of gearing options. I forget the name and I'm not in a place where I could look it up right now. I don't know if that brand has the interchangeability and customizability of old Sun Tour freewheels. But here is a case where the industry is responding to the demand for this kind of thing. There will always be people who want a carburetor instead of a fuel injector, or send handwritten letters instead of email, or old discontinued parts instead of what is currently available. Keeping an old bike on the road is one thing. Setting up a new bike deliberately with obsolete parts is to swim against the current. Many of us here fall into the latter category. Yes, but in my opinion it shouldn't be swimming against the current to want to use 7, 8 or 9 speed cassettes. It's not like a 9 speed cassette drive train is as antiquated as a carburetor. There are huge, even monumental advantages to fuel injection over carburetors. Carburetors can't deliver emissions in the range required of new production, not by a long chalk. The relative advantage of 10 sprockets over 9, on the other hand, is trivial, even meaningless to all but a few riders (and that of 11 is even more trivial), while the costs, both in terms of dollars and longevity are great. Ever narrower chains and ever thinner sprockets mean shorter service life and more delicate adjustment as well as costlier chains and cassettes (not to mention shockingly expensive Campagnolo 11 speed chain tools). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
No Liesl yet. Apparently the winner is going to be the last to know! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:28:18 PM UTC-8, Rick wrote: Congratulations Liesl! Hope they do it again next year. It was fun just reading about people's ideas. Got that 650b Legolas rolling around in my brain, that's for sure. Rick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AtgCSsGTMZ0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Thanks everyone; I'm overwhelmed. Got the totally surprise call from Dave just as I was heading out for a bike ride on my Friday -- which I'm still on. Will write a proper report when I'm back at a proper keyboard instead of an iPhone. riv chic warrior temporarily located in sunny SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4oiFirtz95IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
Can you get any wide range 8 speed cassette that doesn't start with 11? Apparently yes. IRD offers a 12-32 (among other less-wide variants). http://store.interlocracing.com/9and8spmtca.html On Thursday, January 3, 2013 4:54:56 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:18 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: As far as I can see, we bike consumer types have NOTHING to complain about. There has never been such a wide selection of bikes, parts, and accessories from which to choose. 5/6/7 speed freewheels are still available (and becoming more so, not less), if that's your thing. Barely available, and with a tremendously restricted availability of gearing combinations, compared to years past. Where is the old cog board that let you make custom gearing? Where do you find 5 or 6 speed freewheels for half-step gearing? Where do you find quality freewheels? Nowhere. But it's indexed shifters where the pressure gets applied. Do you like 9 speed and brifters? What do you do when your Shimano STI units fail, as they all eventually do? Can you even buy a replacement other than NOS? Yeah, you can buy 10sp or 11sp systems, too, but nobody is forcing you to do that. Yes, actually they are forcing you. Can you get a new 7, 8 or 9 speed Ultegra or Dura Ace quality STI unit? Can you get any wide range 8 speed cassette that doesn't start with 11? Can you buy a new road bike equipped with a Shimano group of 105 quality level or above with anything but 10? Can you buy any new road bike equipped with Campagnolo that isn't either 10 or 11 (and almost all 11)? There is no retro-grouch persecution for us to rally around, though I will concede that you'd be hard pressed to find a new rear derailleur as crappy as what was considered state-of-the-art in the 1970s. Inexorable pressure and the ever-present threat of obsolescence is how I'd characterize it. Persecution is putting it a bit strong, but claiming the pressure does not exist is denying the truth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A8YXH2CmoJoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Long Chainstays (was Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner)
At 09:52 AM 1/2/2013, William wrote: What's the downside to too-long chainstays on a touring bike? Reduced traction on loose surfaces. French constructeurs kept their chainstays short to put more of the rider's weight over the rear wheel, and low-trail geometry made it possible to put the bulk of the load in front. Mitchell Gass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
I'm new here-- so I googled Riv Chica Warrior and read the great story by Liesl. Congrats! On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:00:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/54_sPlC_ng0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner
I find the line-up at Rivendell is diverse enough that a custom would have to really be something that they aren't providing. The first thing that comes to mind is a bike ready for internal-geared-hub, maybe a Rohloff! The Appaloosa seems to be filling in that area, but I'd go for a quicker geometry. Clearance to fit big apples + fenders. V-brakes, long top tube with albatross bars. I'd honestly be happy with a custom-fitted copy of a SimpleOne! Maybe a Simpleone with 650b hetres... Dare I say put a custom chain guard? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EmCRzVk2PP0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Years Day PDX Ride?
Hi Smitty - Here are my few pics from the ride - I tried to caption them but do not think it took. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhoganahh/sets/72157632418993582/show/ BTW, Happy Birthday Dennis in PDX On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:16:25 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: 13 folks showed up for the ride today. 6 on Rivendells. Good times ensued. Plenty of stairs, steep hills, spectacular views, and cool refreshing air. Pics from the Smitty camhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157632406667191/ (no taco pics but there's one of a burrito towards the end) Path Less Pedaled Russ was working the shutter toohttp://www.flickr.com/photos/russroca/8335041811/ --Smitty On Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:41:43 AM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Just putting the feelers out to see if any Portland area Riv-sters would be interested in a New Years Day ride. I don't necessarily have a specific route or destination to suggest. Just figured I'd see if there was interest and we could go from there. --Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e1ApIXBbtHAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Still more Paul, Nitto, VO, Rivendell Parts for sale. Swift rando bag too.
I'd be happy to take the decalwur off your hands! On Wednesday, November 2, 2011 2:31:01 PM UTC-5, mkrbec wrote: Hello everyone, It seems everyone is cleaning out the old parts closet these days, and I am no exception. At the risk of entering a saturated market, I nonetheless have to get rid of quite of bit of stuff before moving at the end of the year. So come one, come all, take a look at what we've got here and get yourself a deal! A lot of this stuff is NEW or like new condition. No sales tax and prices include shipping to the lower 48. Photos can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/4xst3eh Payment thru Paypal only, thanks for looking! - - - Paul Cross Levers, silver. Like new, only used for brief experimental period. $60 shipped. Paul Cantilever brake set. One Neo-Retro and one Touring. Both silver, both lightly used. $100 for the set, shipped. Nitto 48cm Noodle Bars. Like new, with some shellac specs, $55 shipped. One Schwalbe Marathon Supreme folding tire. 26.0 x 2.0 - New in box. $50 shipped. Ortlieb Ultimate 5 Handlebar Bag, black. New in box. $75 shipped. Swift Industries, Ozette Rando Bag, Large, NEW! - Never used. $160 shipped. Nitto Mini-Front Rack - lightly used. - $80 shipped. Nitto Technomic Deluxe, 10cm. Lightly used, $40, shipped. Nitto UI-G5X Threadless Stem, 10cm. Used with shellac specs, $40 shipped. Velo-Orange 1 Threaded Decauler Kit, NEW! $20 shipped. VO Baguette Saddle or Handlebar Bag, lightly used. - $20 shipped. Bicycle Air Horn - great shape - $12 shipped. Kool Stop Brake Pads - NEW! - $5 shipped (per pair). Tektro Ultra-Ergo drilled silver alloy brake levers - lightly used. - $90 shipped. SJS/Thorn 1 1/8 accessory stem, black. NEW! - $20 shipped. Much of this is also going up on my local Craigslist, so if you really want something, don't hesitate for too long. First come, first serve. For sale until it's gone. Photos for everything can be found here: https://picasaweb.google.com/mkrbec/ForSale?authuser=0feat=directlink THANKS FOR LOOKING! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DfKXftEI-uoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congrats. On Jan 3, 1:00 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Slow Riding
Thanks for all the responses/encouragement... this has been a fun thread. On Monday, December 31, 2012 1:35:20 PM UTC-8, Tim Tetrault wrote: Perhaps because I didn't cut my teeth on a high performance road bike and I've always been more of a commuter/errand runner, I've noticed riding with other cyclist friends (who are in much better fitness than I) I am always falling off the back- yet I don't really mind. Since getting my Hilborne, I'm content to chug along in my plain clothes at 13-15 mph, stop at the library, ride to work etc... I feel no motivation or ambition to perform on a bike. Maybe it would be different if I lived in a warmer climate and purchased a Tarmac? Anybody else feel me on this? Tim/Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M1s9ujWFSowJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 13:55 -0800, William wrote: Can you get any wide range 8 speed cassette that doesn't start with 11? Apparently yes. IRD offers a 12-32 (among other less-wide variants). http://store.interlocracing.com/9and8spmtca.html Good to hear that, because in my opinion the 12-32 (originally an XTR M900 cassette but long since discontinued) was the best 8 speed combination ever offered. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Needing a new front fork for my 51cm Bleriot...
Lynn - I'm sorry to hear about the accident, happened to me once as well (20 years of commuting). I hope you don't hurt worse tomorrow and can take a day to rest a bit.Good luck with the fork search, I'm sure Grant can help.JoanOn 01/03/13, Lynne Fitzfitzb...@comcast.net wrote:I was finally, after many decades of bike commuting, struck by a car this morning. While I hurt, I think I'll be ok. Can't say the same for Bleriot. At the least, it will need a new fork...I'll call Rivendell later today, but maybe one of you has a lonesome fork?-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7MrPv5r6fBQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congrats Liesl, Once again, I must live vicariously through others. I can't wait to see what you come up with for your custom. Very exciting! Rusty On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:00:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xxJm-LqhmbcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
I find myself almost disturbingly unconcerned with the makeup of a drivetrain as long as it works for the bike it's on, and I can find the bits somewhere (I always can). 6-and-7speed freewheels, 8-speed cassettes, friction, indexed downtube, indexed trigger shifters, sidepulls, dual-pivots, cantis, V-brakes, and disks. I tend to like lugged-steel frames, Brooks saddles, and uprightish bars. Other than that, it's important to me that the drivetrain look nice and work well, but I seem to find something good about just about every variation of age/technology/number-of-cogs. And yes, I would love to set my Saluki up with Shimano electronic shifting on a Moustache Bar :) Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-8, William wrote: Can you get any wide range 8 speed cassette that doesn't start with 11? Apparently yes. IRD offers a 12-32 (among other less-wide variants). http://store.interlocracing.com/9and8spmtca.html On Thursday, January 3, 2013 4:54:56 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:18 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: As far as I can see, we bike consumer types have NOTHING to complain about. There has never been such a wide selection of bikes, parts, and accessories from which to choose. 5/6/7 speed freewheels are still available (and becoming more so, not less), if that's your thing. Barely available, and with a tremendously restricted availability of gearing combinations, compared to years past. Where is the old cog board that let you make custom gearing? Where do you find 5 or 6 speed freewheels for half-step gearing? Where do you find quality freewheels? Nowhere. But it's indexed shifters where the pressure gets applied. Do you like 9 speed and brifters? What do you do when your Shimano STI units fail, as they all eventually do? Can you even buy a replacement other than NOS? Yeah, you can buy 10sp or 11sp systems, too, but nobody is forcing you to do that. Yes, actually they are forcing you. Can you get a new 7, 8 or 9 speed Ultegra or Dura Ace quality STI unit? Can you get any wide range 8 speed cassette that doesn't start with 11? Can you buy a new road bike equipped with a Shimano group of 105 quality level or above with anything but 10? Can you buy any new road bike equipped with Campagnolo that isn't either 10 or 11 (and almost all 11)? There is no retro-grouch persecution for us to rally around, though I will concede that you'd be hard pressed to find a new rear derailleur as crappy as what was considered state-of-the-art in the 1970s. Inexorable pressure and the ever-present threat of obsolescence is how I'd characterize it. Persecution is putting it a bit strong, but claiming the pressure does not exist is denying the truth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HGNJApKA81IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] And the winner is...
Congratulations, Leisl, wonderful way to start the New Year!JoanOn 01/03/13, Joe Bernardjoerem...@gmail.com wrote:Liesl Chatman!!-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/C_0NJXdV5acJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] And the winner is...
Congratulations! And don't listen to what any of us suggest it should be! jim m wc ca On 01/03/13, Joe Bernardjoerem...@gmail.com wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Awesome...I remember your story about catching and shaming a would-be bike thief. Can't think of a more worthy recipient of a Rivendell custom!. I'm waiting to see what you and Grant come up with...you'll love it. Congratulations again Ryan in Winnipeg Congratualtions On Thursday, January 3, 2013 3:49:48 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote: Thanks everyone; I'm overwhelmed. Got the totally surprise call from Dave just as I was heading out for a bike ride on my Friday -- which I'm still on. Will write a proper report when I'm back at a proper keyboard instead of an iPhone. riv chic warrior temporarily located in sunny SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GnfKrod9gjcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Only ourselves to blame?
Steve I have that 8 speed XTR 12-32 on my Bombadil with one to spare, so I'm right there with you on that. The bummer about the IRD 12-32 is that it has a super goofy cliff right in the middle where both you and I tend to live. Get this: It's a 12-14-16-18-*20*-24-28-32. Jumps of 2-2-2-2-4-4-4. Really unfortunate. It would be *so* much better if that 20 was a 21. 2-2-2-3-3-4-4 is the right way to go. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:17:30 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 13:55 -0800, William wrote: Can you get any wide range 8 speed cassette that doesn't start with 11? Apparently yes. IRD offers a 12-32 (among other less-wide variants). http://store.interlocracing.com/9and8spmtca.html Good to hear that, because in my opinion the 12-32 (originally an XTR M900 cassette but long since discontinued) was the best 8 speed combination ever offered. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CsvutebWumoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxed Canvas Bag Instructions
Supposedly this works on canvas Toms and Vans too. - Ryan On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:29:17 PM UTC-8, Statrixbob wrote: For the DIY set I found these instructions on waxing canvas bags that might be useful. Disclaimer, I've not done this myself so I can't claim this works or is even a good idea. I imagine it might be useful for some though. The article is really about camera bags, but it's not such a far stretch to other canvas bags one might have floating around. http://www.diyphotography.net/spoil-your-camera-with-a-diy-waxed-camera-bag Aloha, Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfhar...@gmail.com javascript: statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F4jxe4PJOMIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Needing a new front fork for my 51cm Bleriot...
Lynne, bummed to hear about this. I hope you feel better soon. If Rivendell doesn't have a fork for you, I bet Joshua (http:// www.cyclesjbryant.com/) could build you one. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
