[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread samh
Giordano bibs. I spend about $150 per bib at the year end sale at competitivecyclist, which buys me their $250-$300 model bibs. I am also someone who doesn't understand how anyone can ride more than a mile while wearing regular shorts. I've never seen any padded shorts that came with a pad

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread samh
Giordana bibs. I spend about $150 per bib at the year end sale at competitivecyclist, which buys me their $250-$300 model bibs. I am also someone who doesn't understand how anyone can ride more than a mile while wearing regular shorts. I've never seen any padded shorts that came with a pad

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread samh
Giordana bibs. I spend about $150 at the year end sale at competitivecyclist, which buys me their $250-$300 model bibs. I am also someone who doesn't understand how anyone can ride more than a mile while wearing regular shorts. I've never seen any padded shorts with a pad as comfortable as

[RBW] Re: Stolen SimpleOne (Sacramento)

2013-08-14 Thread samh
Oh, manwhat a beauty. :( I hope they catch the person. Good luck. On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:30:39 PM UTC-6, David wrote: These recovery attempts are a long-shot, but I have to try. My SimpleOne was stolen a couple weeks ago. Police report filed within 24 hours. No luck yet.

Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I wear BCG ( UnderArmor and Adiddas also make them for more $) wicking sports briefs (with Bag Balm applied to my skin first) under wool shorts. I have Joneswares and Ibex (I get them in good used condition off Ebay and remove the pads. I have some RBW wool briefs but the crotch seam in them

Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Eric Platt
Another one for the REI padded shorts which I'll wear under MUSA clothing. Like you, can do up to 20 miles in regular shorts but after that a lot of chafing occurs. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote:

[RBW] Re: Post Courage Classic Pictures

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
For what it's worth, Hugh, no I don't. I mouth the smoke and that's it. Interestingly, I can't smoke regular tobacco, but have no issues with organic. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:49:43 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Deacon, You didn't inhale though? Right. The engine is

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
I've worn merino wool underwear for years for my running and daily living. Works great biking too, though I do not live in a hot and humid climate, which I've heard challenges the merino. For shorts, I wear MUSA shorts. Rides of 70+ miles/day for multiple days on tour. With abandon, Patrick

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Kieran J
I wear MEC (Canada's REI) chamois cycling shorts under an old pair of DC skateboarding pants which I've chopped into shorts. Combined with a leather saddle like a B17, it's a great working combo. KJ On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:26:54 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: What do you Rivendell riders

Re: [RBW] Re: Post Courage Classic Pictures

2013-08-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/14/2013 07:58 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: For what it's worth, Hugh, no I don't. I mouth the smoke and that's it. Interestingly, I can't smoke regular tobacco, but have no issues with organic. Still, an excellent way to maintain your nicotine addiction, and promote cancers of the mouth,

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
polyester athletic boxer briefs and MUSA shorts - no sweat worries On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:26:54 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: What do you Rivendell riders wear on long rides? Centuries, metric or English, etc. I know there is a general anti-padded-shorts vibe that emanates from

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
Deac, I wear merino wool boxer briefs in winter (even have some knicker-length), but I do live in a hot humid climate, and the BCG or Russell Performance polyester is the choice for summer On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:32:50 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: polyester athletic boxer briefs and MUSA

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Matthew J
Musa or Musa style shorts. Base layer either Capilene or merino wool depending on weather. Few years back under heavy peer pressure from the group on a tour I tried some high end padded shorts. I found the damn things uncomfortably clammy. The pads act like a sponge gathering sweat and

Re: [RBW] Re: Post Courage Classic Pictures

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks for your concern, Steve. Nicotine addiction is minimal to nonexistent. In my 15 years of pipe smoking, I've often gone without a pipe for weeks or months (for any number of reasons) and never experienced any withdrawal or craving. But then I've never liked heavy tobacco. Cancer risk is

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Bruce
J G touring shorts (http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Mens-Touring-Shorts.html). The fleece pad works great. These cured my saddle sore problem. On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:26:54 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: What do you Rivendell riders wear on long rides? Centuries, metric or English, etc.

[RBW] Re: Back to Earth 2

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
loved the video On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:33:35 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: A couple of months ago, my buddy Jesus Beltran of Zumpango Films and I went on a S240 to Half Moon Bay. You can read about it here. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGmF74X Again, Chin did a great job capturing the

[RBW] Re: Back to Earth 2

2013-08-14 Thread Mike
Watching that made me think The bicycle is an absolutely beautiful and wonderful machine. I loved the soundtrack. Thanks. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Back to Earth 2

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic, Manny! It does a wonderful job revealing the beauty of perseverance and the joy of being out no matter the weather. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:33:35 AM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote: A couple of months ago, my buddy Jesus Beltran of Zumpango Films and I

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Christian
As others have said, some of this (a lot?) depends on where you live and then the distance you're going to ride. For a couple of hours Ex Officio boxer briefs under almost any shorts work really well for me. But on longer rides, here in Virginia with high humidity, especially in the summer,

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Frank
I'm on the Manny program. I ride in underwear (usually Patagucci lighweight briefs or Ibex boxers, both of which are everyday garments) and MUSA shorts. All my bikes have Brooks B17 saddles in varied states of wear, which work for me and always have. I've done one-day double centuries multiple

[RBW] What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Frank Quan
Bib shorts. I ride with a road club so I buy several pair every year. I wear the new ones on longer (50 mi) and the older ones on shorter rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread BSWP
I am very comfortable with RBW's Australian wool trunk underwear, and some thin baggy nylon outer shorts (MUSA, Royal Robbins, etc.). The MUSA wool undies are too thin for my taste, while the Norwegian Devold version has a funny cut. The AustrALian wool underwear is absolutely perfect, and I

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread allenmichael
My favorites are the Patagonia stand-up shorts with the lightweight Devold wool underwear. I've done 90+ miles with a heavy load along the pacific coast and never had any trouble. Might not work as well though if it was really hot. For me, this is plenty of padding, and it breathes well.

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread allenmichael
19/20/21 in case a few can stick around another day? On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread James Warren
This is a little bit cool: If the Jamboree gets off the ground in 2014, it will coincide with the year of Rivendell's 20th Anniversery. On Aug 14, 2013, at 8:34 AM, allenmichael wrote: 19/20/21 in case a few can stick around another day? On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7,

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:15 AM, samh rbwown...@yahoo.com wrote: I am also someone who doesn't understand how anyone can ride more than a mile while wearing regular shorts. You develop protective calluses, so it works out fine. Personally, I hate the feel of tight, clammy lycra, and gave up

Re: [RBW] Re: Post Courage Classic Pictures

2013-08-14 Thread Hugh Smitham
Deacon, I apologize if in my attempt at humor and a dash of concern I have offended. I for one have lost family members to cancer related to smoking, you bring up the point about the additives which are principally to enhance the effects of nicotine...they in affect make the tobacco more

Re: [RBW] Re: Post Courage Classic Pictures

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och, Hugh! No offense taken and concern appreciated. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:58:09 AM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Deacon, I apologize if in my attempt at humor and a dash of concern I have offended. I for one have lost family members to cancer related to smoking,

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Matthew J
My favorites are the Patagonia stand-up shorts with the lightweight Devold wool underwear. I've done 90+ miles with a heavy load along the pacific coast and never had any trouble. Might not work as well though if it was really hot. For me, this is plenty of padding, and it breathes well. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread Hugh Smitham
I think as Manny say's just pick a date and place, everything else will fall into place. Jim that is cool 20 years. Liesl we should start with voting of the three locations. I'm still wishing for that fourth location. Mr Gifford Pinchot has a nice place. ~Hugh On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:48 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread Anne Paulson
Gifford Pinchot in 2015, I guess, but let's pick a location and time for next year. So far Manny's bid of China Camp (just north of SF), July 19-20, is the only specific proposal. So, faute de mieux, I guess we have to pick it? On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread RoadieRyan
It goes against Doctrine but I like bib shorts in particular Castelli or DeMarchi, I find wool boxer briefs with MUSA shorts fine for rides under 20 miles but for the longer stuff I go to the bibs. I hear great things about Ibex wool blend bibs and intend to try them some day. As for Jerseys

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread SteveD
When I commute to work (12 miles one-way), I wear my padded woolies under my pants (shorts in summer, jeans in winter), and a wool jersey. This way I can just throw on a clean shirt when I get to the office. No fuss, no muss. I stopped wearing SPDs three years ago, and just use tennis shoes

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread SteveD
Oh, and on longer rides (more than 40 miles), I wear my wool jersey and shorts. Basically, just go for what's comfortable for whatever ride I'm doing; sometimes I'm just don't feel like suiting up these days. Steve DeMont Seatle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Christopher Chen
Wool boxer briefs plus swrve shorts. Honestly, I just like the look of them, and they're comfortable enough. cc On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:00 AM, SteveD stephendem...@gmail.com wrote: When I commute to work (12 miles one-way), I wear my padded woolies under my pants (shorts in summer,

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread William
1. Regular clothes for commuting. 2. Musa knickers over Devold wool undies for all distances over 20 miles when riding on a Brooks saddle. 3. Rapha bibs for all distances over 20 miles when riding on a skinny saddle. On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:26:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: What

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread William
I know there is a general anti-padded-shorts vibe that emanates from Walnut Creek. I think Grant is a LOT less anti than people seem to think. What's the worst thing Grant has ever said about padded bike shorts? In my experience, the worst thing he's ever said about padded bike shorts is his

[RBW] Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
http://www.rivbike.com/Opinel-Knife-p/knife01.htm - Someone should tell Grant that Opniel will custom-engrave knives http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Glass/P3210134crop.jpg - it would be cool to see Riv-logo knives -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] FS: 59c A. Homer Hilsen

2013-08-14 Thread PeterG
Lowered price on AHH. Frame has less than 100 miles on it. Bought this bike as a go fast build to complement my other AHH but went another way. Excellent condition. Fenders are off another Hilsen and Brooks has some scrapes on it, but everything else is either new or almost new with little

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread William
I found it pretty funny that both Opinel knives and artisan soaps are now on the new items page at Velo-Orange as well. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:03:43 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/Opinel-Knife-p/knife01.htm - Someone should tell Grant that Opniel will

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Mike Schiller
well said Bill. While baggy shorts and Exofficio briefs work well for me on more casual rides or tours, a long warm weather ride where I'm going at a good pace for me means good quality lycra shorts. I do prefer a thin pad and simple black color. Winter is wool knickers from Ibex or Ground

[RBW] Big Rivendell Sale Today Only

2013-08-14 Thread Dave Rivbike
Shout it on the rooftops. Share with your friends. All lights, all web specials, new grey/blue shorts, Olive SaddleSack Mediums, Grip Kings, and Sage tops all 10% today only. Also, free shipping on orders over $50 (continental US, not oversized) today. It all ends at midnight. Big Sam bill

[RBW] Re: Back to Earth 2

2013-08-14 Thread RoadieRyan
Very nice loved the trip by bike and the union suit ;-) makes me realize I need to S24O soon ! On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:33:35 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: A couple of months ago, my buddy Jesus Beltran of Zumpango Films and I went on a S240 to Half Moon Bay. You can read about it

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Lynne Fitz
Umm. Cycling shorts? Maybe for a few errands from home or work that are short (5 mi), I'll wear whatever I have on, but anything over that - bike-specific bottoms. I have a princess and the pea undercarriage. On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:26:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: What do you

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread shawn
When I ride my Atlantis I wear cotton briefs and regular gym shorts from Target. This combo has served me well on tour. I would like to try some wool briefs. When I ride my Roadeo I use padded underwear under my Target shorts. On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:26:54 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-14 Thread Johnny Alien
10% off that Sam special 56 today. I say go for it. That is a screaming deal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
I think diaper is a great name for padded shorts and I don't think it is mean at all. It's just snide. Of course, I must be thick skinned since I don't need one for my riding (though I have a few in reserve for those ever elusive 50 milers. Patrick diapers forever! Moore On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I agree. There ain't nothing wrong with cyclin' shorts for the 100 mile ride. If you don't like the look, then you can get the baggy mountain-biking type or wear regular shorts over them. I generally go bib-shorts or bib-knickers on 150-mile+ rides. --Perhaps there is some skin strengthening

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread William
I suppose I need to go look up the real definition of the word snide, then. I always considered snide to be an adjective, meaning: 1. Derogatory or mocking in an indirect way: snide remarks I also considered mean to be on the list of synonyms for snide. I do applaud your double

[RBW] FS wool cycling shorts size M / L

2013-08-14 Thread J L
With the popularity of the what do we rivs wear thread I thought I would offer these up to the group before putting them on the auction site. Icebreaker Merino Wool / Lycra padded cycling shorts Size L plus Outdoor Research quick dry baggy shorts Size L Both Black - the OR pair have been worn a

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread oldmangabe
Michael, I like Boure synthetic bibs for long rides. They have thinner pad and good placement. They have worked best for me on warm (60 degree plus) rides. The Ibex bibs work well in rain or cooler temp long rides. The Ibex have a thicker and larger pad than the Boure bibs. The wool bibs

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread oldmangabe
They are all the rage. Heritage products man, heritage products. To be fair, VO had the knives first. Most likely to mirror Riv's hatchets. It's a funny arms race brewing up. I like Opinel knives, been using one for a few years now. Still sharp, looks good. The ones Riv have are a bit

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
I think the whole diaper thing - snide or not - goes with gel padded Lightweight saddles and chafing cremes. I personally believe the more you wear, the worse the problem becomes - it becomes a sweaty padded mess. I think most on this forum have reached a similar conclusion about saddle

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread William
Yes, the funniness had nothing to do with who had them first, and I didn't intend to imply that anyone copied anyone. I only found humor in both establishments choosing to carry them this summer. Clearly both Grant and Chris used them as boys, just like countless others have. Maybe they'll

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Edwin W
Soaps Hatchets Pocket knives Leather Wool Twine Steel What middle aged white dudes like. Am I middle aged already? Young (for this demographic) at just 40, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Mike Schiller
They're certainly useful for camping. I've had a No. 8 in my backpacking kit for 20+ years. Great for food prep and misc. needs. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Though soaps I have no use for, so clearly still some Scots in there! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:44:36 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Am I white already? I thought I was Scottish. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:17:25 PM UTC-6, Edwin

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Am I white already? I thought I was Scottish. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:17:25 PM UTC-6, Edwin W wrote: Soaps Hatchets Pocket knives Leather Wool Twine Steel What middle aged white dudes like. Am I middle aged already? Young (for this demographic) at

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
My purpose in my snide remark (not really snide, more ironic) was to say that sometimes we are far, far too earnest, and that we take offense far, far too easily. FWIW, I fully agree with Toshi that bike clothing has evolved for its usefulness and that one should wear it as and when it serves its

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread erik jensen
jortz On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: My purpose in my snide remark (not really snide, more ironic) was to say that sometimes we are far, far too earnest, and that we take offense far, far too easily. FWIW, I fully agree with Toshi that bike

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Are the Opinel knives better than, say, Victorinox knives? Is it a retro thing or do they have better blades? If not Opinel or Victorinox, what is a good pocketknife for casual and occasional use, no more than 3 long -- single blade is fine. I'm no connaisseur, obviously, but I'd like to have

[RBW] Re: Big Rivendell Sale Today Only

2013-08-14 Thread thalasin
Wonderful! Placed my order late last evening so as not to miss my MUSA shorts window. No discount, no free shipping. Fiddlesticks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread Mike Williams
Hey Anne and group,I guess I was confusing in my post. I was just putting in a good word for the midwest. I live in San Fran and would have no way of hosting in the midwest. -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: So we now,

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Mike Williams
I second the jorts!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2013, at 2:05 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: jortz On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: My purpose in my snide remark (not really snide, more ironic) was to say that sometimes we are

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Carbon blades are the only reason to get Opinel knives that I can see, other than good value for a stainless blade. Carbon holds a sharper edge than stainless, but requires actual care (oiling as needed) to prevent rust. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:07:15 PM UTC-6,

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Christopher Chen
Don't forget the locking blade. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Carbon blades are the only reason to get Opinel knives that I can see, other than good value for a stainless blade. Carbon holds a sharper edge than stainless, but requires actual care

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
I probably have too many knives - these are the non-utilitarian, but one of them is an Opniel. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Glass/knives-1.jpg Every bike bag, every fishing bag, has a permanent knife clipped in. BTW, classic Texas BBQ is an old German butcher

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Patrick. Patrick. Patrick. Sigh. I take deep, personal offense at that. I don't care that it proves your point. I have an offensive collection and I needed this one. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:02:57 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: My purpose in my

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
Patrick, the most useful knife I've ever handled (own 3 permanently clipped in bags) is the Spyderco Native On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:07:15 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Are the Opinel knives better than, say, Victorinox knives? Is it a retro thing or do they have better blades? If

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread Liesl
There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Are you wanting active NSA surveillance on this list, Liesl? With abandon (obviously), Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:25:45 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best...

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread William
I hope your offensive collection doesn't spill over into my Irony Hall of Fame. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:21:12 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Patrick. Patrick. Patrick. Sigh. I take deep, personal offense at that. I don't care that it proves your point. I have an offensive

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ironically, yes it does, William. Otherwise it would be less offensive. I can't have an offensive collection getting defensive about it's paranoia of becoming friendly, or worse, PC. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:37:42 PM UTC-6, William wrote: I hope your

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Help me out here, a knife kneophyte. My own experience, which is with ordinary kitchen knives, is that good quality stainless steel ones -- Henckels -- are very hard for me to sharpen; while non-stainless -- Old Hickory is the brand I have -- sharpens easier and, moreover, responds to a steel

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks -- will look it up. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, the most useful knife I've ever handled (own 3 permanently clipped in bags) is the Spyderco Native On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:07:15 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Are the Opinel

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
I'm getting very confused here. Let's talk about knives. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Ironically, yes it does, William. Otherwise it would be less offensive. I can't have an offensive collection getting defensive about it's paranoia of becoming

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Matthew J
I think GP wants you to be happy on your bike. And if that means wearing padded shorts, nylon shorts, denim shorts, diapers, or nothing at all, I expect he will concur (well, maybe not on the last one). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
for my kitchen knives, I bought a Wustoff steak knife set with an empty block. I also bought the Wustoff scissors, steel and bread knife. I gradually filled the remaining holes in the block with handmade Japanese knives - Sakai, Kanatsune, Al-Mar. Stainless knives form some delta-ferrite as

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread oldmangabe
Bill, I would be into Wiffle Inc stuff! Sorry to misinterpret your post and come down on you. I find it tiring to have people frequently creating binaries by pitting Riv vs VO, or BQ vs Riv, Giants vs A's, etc, etc. I guess I need to chill and not be on the forums for a bit. Later,

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread Marc Irwin
That MSP cell has a location advantage. They are at least close to the center of the country and Minneapolis has really good service from Amtrak, people of both coasts could take a train which has full baggage service which means Amtrak can provide boxes to bring full sized bikes along.

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Amen to that. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: I think GP wants you to be happy on your bike. And if that means wearing padded shorts, nylon shorts, denim shorts, diapers, or nothing at all, I expect he will concur (well, maybe not on the last one).

[RBW] USBR 35 - west coast of Michigan

2013-08-14 Thread Kelly
Though we regularly end up off route to explore we are having a great time. Som notes if you wish to do this. There are no markings along the way so get the IMO file and the PDF. Note they don't match either but both work. If you like exacting directions and no exploring ...maybe not for

[RBW] Re: Big Front Rack loaded on a Hunqapillar... am I crazy?

2013-08-14 Thread Z
Hey Shawn, I outfitted my 52 cm Bombadil with a Big Front Rack and big ol' Ortlieb back rollers during a tour this spring and really liked it. In the back I have a nitto R-14 top rack with medium saddlesack. I like having more direct control of the majority of my gear this way, and used a

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread William
I agree with this 1000% On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:59:19 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: I think GP wants you to be happy on your bike. And if that means wearing padded shorts, nylon shorts, denim shorts, diapers, or nothing at all, I expect he will concur (well, maybe not on the last

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread William
If I get offended that your offense collection ironically spilled into my Irony Hall of Fame, does my offense become a member of your offense collection or my IHoF, or BOTH!? Ouch my brain hurts On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:45:21 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Ironically, yes it does,

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread William
Gabe If that was coming down on me, I didn't take it as such. I'm typing this in my work cubicle, with a Wiffle Ball Bat leaning on my chair. I keep it in here just because it's a tactile thing to fiddle with, and it makes an impression when I carry it into a meeting. Oh crap, Bill means

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ouch my brain hurts Sorry. I didn't intend for you to enter my world. Sardonic grin. But yes, both sounds right, to answer your other question, but you have to get offended twice so we each get an original. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:58:23 PM UTC-6, William wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread cyclotourist
I did it like this, I did it like that I did it with a whiffle ball bat On 8/14/13, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Gabe If that was coming down on me, I didn't take it as such. I'm typing this in my work cubicle, with a Wiffle Ball Bat leaning on my chair. I keep it in here just

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread dougP
The Twin Cities harbor a number of subversive elements...approach with caution. BUT there is a Rivendell dealer there so you could save half the transport hassle by just buying a new bike from him :-). dougP On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:31:43 PM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: That MSP cell

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread William
I typed those Beastie Boys lyrics four different times and my internal filter said 'don't post'. I'm glad I didn't and I'm glad you did. :-) On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:15:56 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I did it like this, I did it like that I did it with a whiffle ball bat

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread cyclotourist
You all need a suitcase of courage. Patrick's knife comment was a LOLer. On 8/14/13, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Ouch my brain hurts Sorry. I didn't intend for you to enter my world. Sardonic grin. But yes, both sounds right, to answer your other question, but you have to get

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread cyclotourist
It needed to be said. RIP MCA On 8/14/13, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I typed those Beastie Boys lyrics four different times and my internal filter said 'don't post'. I'm glad I didn't and I'm glad you did. :-) On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:15:56 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread RJM
I wear bike shorts and jerseys...have a few different pairs. Two are Pearl Izumi Pro shorts that are awesome. Anykind of club riding where speed is high on the list or distances over 30 miles and I am wearing dedicated bike shorts. I also own several pairs of MUSA shorts and wear them with

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Peter Morgano
I use my carbon fiber thong, laterally stiff yet vertically compliant. :-) On Aug 14, 2013 9:10 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I wear bike shorts and jerseys...have a few different pairs. Two are Pearl Izumi Pro shorts that are awesome. Anykind of club riding where speed is high on the

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

2013-08-14 Thread Ron Mc
better than vice-versa On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:13:17 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: I use my carbon fiber thong, laterally stiff yet vertically compliant. :-) On Aug 14, 2013 9:10 PM, RJM crccp...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I wear bike shorts and jerseys...have a few different pairs.

[RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread jeffrey kane
needed indeed ... On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:03:43 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/Opinel-Knife-p/knife01.htm - Someone should tell Grant that Opniel will custom-engrave knives http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Glass/P3210134crop.jpg - it

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread allenmichael
I would likely vote for a.MSP destination. Some of my forebears left Minnesota to come to California. I've always been curious to get out there and look around. Michael Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Back to Earth 2

2013-08-14 Thread WETH
I really enjoyed watching the video. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-14 Thread Jay Lonner
Another vote for China Camp. Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA (tickled that it came up as a possible destination, not at all surprised that it didn't make the final cut) On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:42:09 PM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote: I would likely vote for a.MSP destination. Some of my

Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives

2013-08-14 Thread grant
I have a growing-old BLUG post in the saved folder that announces we're not going to keep selling Opinels. Some guys here checked to see if VO had 'em and they came up blank, but --missed it, or something. Opinels are for kitchen and picnic use, cutting soft foods and things...and that is a

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