Hey Joe that's exactly it! I knew some one would pull out the arcane
Nitto-knowledge!!
Now to decide which bike will be graced by the new shiny thing Good thing
it's new-bike-day! :)
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While Fat Tire Flyer was my main influence into riding bikes with wider
tires, the short-lived magazine Mountain Bike - for the Adventure put out
by Hank Barlow was more my style. It focused more on touring back roads
and recreational riding, moreso than racing. Although racing did show up
in
Maybe the new to you Bombadil, Tony?
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:49:38 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Hey Joe that's exactly it! I knew some one would pull out the arcane
Nitto-knowledge!!
Now to decide which bike will be graced by the new shiny thing Good
thing it's
I think there are increasing options for both types of rides. Lots of
folks like to challenge themselves with epic, high mileage gravel grinders,
but I see plenty who are doing more laid back rambles. My personal motto
is Half the Distance, Twice the Time, Three Times the Fun.
One type is, I
Looks like Riv sold these about 15 years ago, according to an archived BOB
list post.
http://search.bikelist.org/beta/ViewMessage.aspx?id=57946
They probably found the last NOS stash somewhere and cleared it out, like
they did with a lot of vintage Suntour. The early catalogs are full of
Eric:
Indeed, Mountain Bike WAS an excellent magazine, and (having grown up on a
fat-tired Schwinn Typhoon), I remember in 1985 how smitten I became with
the whole idea of mountain bikes... WOW, the mere notion of riding bikes in
the back-country just blew my mind. For the entire month of
Tim, I noticed the same old link when I searched this morning. Funny, I
was working on a bike for my Mom (I'll share pictures soon) and I needed a
stem/handlebar to just test out my headset install... I looked up on the
rack of 'quality' products at the co-op and the sweeet clamp nut jumped out
Nice! I had one from a yellow Fuji Extra-Heavy Road Racer. I used the Fujita
Belt saddle for years, too. Rivendell sold through a cache of these a number of
years ago, I believe.
Philip
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If you drop the racer that is a pretty good description for all my bikes!
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Right, and GP wasn't the only one preaching that sermon. There was also Jan
Heine and to a lesser extent and more recently, VO.
I do dislike the term gravel grinding, because it has connotations of
effort and exertion. I prefer dirt-road riding, or gravel road riding, or
even mixed terrain
I couldn't agree more. My tastes in bikes have evolved but I've pretty
much arrived at wanting an mid-to-late 80's style All-Rounder bike. I
struggled with the idea of buying a full-fledged MTB for over a year but I
finally got out and tried true single-track and discovered I did not enjoy
It may be hearsay, but I believe the (book, not old zine/mag) FTF
describes a batch of Ritchey-built Moutainbikes that had incorrect ht
angle / rake... which were sold at discount t to their friends
@Specialized. Curiously, the first-gen batch of Japanese stumpjumpers
appeared! replicating the
Yes, that was pretty much the story I was referencing. This seems to imply
that the huge wheel flop my Takara has is a result of all the other bike
companies basically copying the Stumpjumper, which itself was a flawed copy
of the original Ritchey MTB's. It really makes me wonder how the
More than a mountain bike or gravel grinder I love the idea of an
all-terrain,
go anywhere, ride all day bike that can do it all (DIA):
http://www.mountainflyermagazine.com/view.php/touching-metal.html
- David G in San Diego
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Anton Tutter atut...@gmail.com wrote:
I usually push off with my left foot on the pedal and right foot on the
ground, swinging my right leg up and over the back, which works well unless
there's a kid on the back. That's when I appreciate the low top tube of my
Yuba as I have to step through and then pedal off.
Best,
Eric
Indpls,
SOLD !! Thank you
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:24:38 AM UTC-8, re...@bpa.gov wrote:
$1000 Almost complete bike.
Pictures: http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/4736517461.html
My first Rivendell Bike purchased from Rivendell May 2010. Rode the bike
in all weather conditions. I acquired
Mine just came today but I wanna return it. You want mine? I am in
Silverlake.
On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 5:54:17 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
Straight forward looking for a Nitto Big Front Rack with the hardware for
my Alantis. Can PayPal or? Send me a private message if interested in
I am thinking about adding an accessory bar below the handlebars as a mount
for the F15. One example is the Thorn Accessory Bar T Shaped 55 mm
Extension
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/thorn-accessory-bar-t-shaped-55-mm-extension-0-deg-prod11041/?geoc=us
.
[image: Thorn Thorn Accessory Bar T Shaped
What derailleurs have you been breaking?
My Hilsen has a 44-41-24 triple setup. This originally came with a
nondescript wide-range triple front derailleur, which shifted miserably.
I then put on an old SunTour Supurbe racing derailleur. This shifts like
a dream on the 17-tooth jump from
Hi all, I thought i'd try my luck on the list for used goods.
I'm after an Atlantis, ideally 58 so i can stick with my excellent 700c
wheelset OR a 54 Hunqapillar. Cosmetic condition does not bother me! I am
located in Australia but if the price and frame are right then I'm fine
with that
About the influence thing, with practical bikes, and so on: I'm not dumb
enough or falsely humble enough to deny that Rivendell has had influence,
but to put it on ME gives me too much credit. As some have pointed out,
lots of what we're doing with bikes has been done before in some
The saddle, stock tensioning strings, and wrench.
Brown, white, red, blue strings.
The blue is recommended if you have a Bleriot. Matches good!
Briefly mounted on my new Rivendell and then removed after a couple test
rides in nice weather. Less than 30 miles on it I would guess.
It is a
more pics:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/15726385255/in/set-72157648756456368/
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Here is the album of pics:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/sets/72157648756456368/
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I love finding homes for bikes.
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SOLD !! Thank you
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My first
Believing that carbs are the sole or even primary cause of obesity requires
you to completely disregard the bulk of humanity that exists on a high carb
diet and yet is healthy.
I follow a lot of nutrition websites, including several run by folks with
PhD's in the biological sciences and who
The emotional support and affirmation is so important. Most of the
people I ride with have carbon bikes, or if we're riding off-road,
they have full-suspension mountain bikes. It can be hard to be the
only one on steel, with wider tires. Without the affirmation that I'm
not the only one, I'd have
Hugh:
I have one, which was formerly on my 61cm Atlantis. Excellent (really, like
new) condition. They're $200 new -- how about $165 shipped (I suspect the
shipping is pretty steep, given the necessarily large size of the box).
Tom
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Well, sure, Grant Petersen might be awww shucks but what 'bout Grant
Peterson? I hear that guy's a jerk
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com
wrote:
The emotional support and affirmation is so important. Most of the
people I ride with have carbon bikes, or if
I would invite anyone who is interested in alternative viewpoints to follow
the link provided here and read some of Dr. Guyenet's work. Pay particular
attention to the tasteless liquid through a straw experiment. The
results indicate that something really is different in the brains of obese
Can anyone measure for me the vertical height measurement of your Loup Loup
pass tires above your rim at their minimum inflation pressure as indicated
on the tire's sidewall, whatever that is?
So the distance the Loupys stand above the edge of the rim. I have the
grand Bois rims, I think 23mm
LOVE Cunningham's and Potts' concept. The execution of the concept.not
so much.
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:25:45 AM UTC-6, David G wrote:
More than a mountain bike or gravel grinder I love the idea of an
all-terrain,
go anywhere, ride all day bike that can do it all (DIA):
Gary Taubes writes a book. Somebody who doesn't agree says It's way more
complex than just carbs
Stephan Guyenet wirtes a blog. Somebody who doesn't agree says. It's way
more complex than just calories in vs calories out
Both critics are factually correct in saying it's more complex than
Alternative viewpoints to what? Low carb? The standard American diet? I
didn't see any new information there and I saw nothing that refutes a low
carb approach. One reality I've personally experienced, and the science
supports, is that meals high in fat (in my case, 80-90% of calories come
BAG SOLD!
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:37:41 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
Since the bike fleet has shrunk, I have some extra stuff to move along.
All prices include shipping in the US.Payment via paypal and buyer to cover
any fees.
Carradice Super C Saddle Bag (New): $80This is a
Thanks for posting this, Chris. My own guiding principle in such matters is
nil novum sub sole and my guiding rule is that any theory (in diet as in
other matters) that purports to be radically different will go away within
a decade.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:15 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners
Incidentally, remembering the story in Daniel about the captives turning
away the rich meats offered by the king and turning out healthier than
everyone else on a diet of legumes, I was amused and appalled to see that
even this has been turned into a theory and a diet.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at
Patrick: how do you explain the Japanese? They are notorious for longevity,
low chronic ailments, and a diet low on bacon and steak and high on rice.
This is a serious question, not a challenge.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Alternative viewpoints to
Yep, I had the VO stabilizer for a while, then moved and disassembled bike
and lost the parts. It works well. Solves your problem.
Then Chris gave me another, and I haven't added it yet. Irish strap on the
front wheel when you park does the same thing. (I learned this from Chris).
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Deacon will answer as well, in his own inimitable manner, but the answer is
obvious: *because they are genetically predisposed to be that way*
Gary Taubes talks about Japan specifically in his writing. There's no
conflict or contradiction or controversy about Japan.
On Thursday, November
SOLD.
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Taube's book just gave me, and just about every Japanese, Korean, Chinese,
Thai, East Inidan, and Vietnamese person an excuse to ignore Grant's new
book, since all of our ancestors mainly ate grains--mostly rice, and never
seemed to exhibit pandemic obesity and the chronic diseases that come
Wait, didn't the irish mainly subsist on potatoes, or is that a myth? If
they did, did they have a obesity epidemic, or was the life expectancy so
short that most folks died of something else before they got fat?
Wait, what's the life expectancy of our paleo ancestors?
Franklyn
On Thursday,
Indians, Nepalese, Filipinos, Kenyans (posho), Italians, Chinese, French,
Irish, Polish, pre-modern Europeans, and on and on and on ...
Your answer doesn't work, it seems to me.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Deacon will answer as well, in his own
I'm not totally anti-Taubes and in fact, when I first read his books, I
bought it hook-line-and-sinker but further reading of other viewpoints and
more importantly, actual researchers and experts in the field (Taubes is a
journalist, albeit a very intelligent and physics educated journalist)
Do I detect irony?
Quite seriously: I don't deny that some people have benefited in some ways
from the paleo diet. What I dispute is that it represents a universal
norm. History shows that it does not do so.
I think that we have to look elsewhere for the pandemic of obesity and
chronic diseases
Researchers are now saying that a person could almost live on potatoes
alone and be healthy. They actually have almost all the nutrients
necessary to sustain life. This probably wouldn't work for someone who
already has Type 2 Diabetes but a normal weight person probably isn't going
to get
Patrick,
Excellent question. I know this gets explored and, to my mind, answered in
The Perfect Health Diet -- but the general concept is that the
traditional diet, on Okinawa for example, was very high fat (pork) and some
rice and tubers (safe starches). The newer generation(s) eating less
1. I think a vast array of diets work for different people. Do you agree?
2. I think the reason a vast array of diets work for different people
because people differ. Do you agree?
3. I think a bad combination of Diet x Genetics can have bad results. Do
you agree?
4. I think that the diet
But that doesn't explain the mainstream Japanese diet and the noted
longevity and general health of the mainstream Japanese. Nor the health of
starch eating populations over the greater part of history.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Patrick,
This doesn't answer the question! Are you saying that the Paleo diet works
well for a very small number of people?
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
1. I think a vast array of diets work for different people. Do you agree?
2. I think the reason a vast
I don't know how many people the Paleo diet does not work for. I don't
know how many people get fat on leafy greens and healthy meat. I don't
know how many people cut the sugars and get fatter. I don't know how many
people cut bread from their diet and get fatter. I do know that Paleo is
If we're going to get paleo, let's talk about lifespan. Paleo lifespan was
in the teens - it moved into the 40s with the advent of grain agriculture.
If a diet works for you, more power to you, just don't impale other healthy
people with it.
Let's talk about obesity. It's also paleo. It's
You are right, Patrick. It does not explain it. But it is explainable (and
I think part of the explanation is found in a more accurate understanding
of the mainstream Japanese diet and the actual number of calories they are
getting. They are far closer to paleo than perhaps you are thinking?).
Actually, Paleo is a poor diet description, as it is really an umbrella
that hold a LOT of specific camps. Some paleo embraces white rice and
potatoes and sweet potatoes/yams as a great way to get safe starches
(starches free of anti-nutrients, like found in grains) -- so 2-4 fistfuls
of rice
There is simply too much we do not know to say the paleo lifespan was (pick
your number). This offers some reasons
why: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bone-dating-life-span/#axzz3IKPGQaXH
and this:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/life-expectancy-hunter-gatherer/#axzz3IKPtXtv5
There may even be
Well I love candy and chocolate but isn't processed sugar essentially a
poison that our body reacts to when we eat it?
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Do I detect irony?
Quite seriously: I don't deny that some people have benefited in some ways
from
I love honey, eat a few skittles and Mrs. Annie's Pecan brittle. It's not
my diet, but I have a sweet tooth. Part of that is my mother is the best
dessert cook on the planet and wow, her blackberry cobler - my dad grows
the berries in his garden. Bacon - I occasionally buy a few slcies at
as should add my honey is local wild honey - I think it helps me fight
allergies. I could be wrong, and won't write a book about it.
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 4:11:29 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
I love honey, eat a few skittles and Mrs. Annie's Pecan brittle. It's not
my diet, but I have
On 11/06/2014 05:02 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
There is simply too much we do not know to say the paleo lifespan was
(pick your number).
There never was any such thing as /the/ paleo life any more than there
was a single paleo diet. There were many different paleolithic life
styles and many
another thing I don't get. If people are out running, riding bikes, etc.
to be healthy, burn calories, increase their metabolism, why at rest stops
do they pump down gummies and energy drinks?
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 4:11:29 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
I love honey, eat a few skittles
Why do most folks lump chocolate with sugar? I love chocolate. We make our
own with coconut butter, butter, vanilla, ceylon cinnamon and cocoa powder.
No sugar required. Deep, dark, rich, ridiculous silky deliciousness. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:05:42 PM
Come on Deacon, you know most people don't go and make their own chocolate,
if only. at 50 hours a week with kids and all the other crap I am luck to
get time to drive and buy a damn chocolate bar, haha. I kid but I think
this touches on another issue with any change in eating habits-time and
Agreed, Peter. Hence part of the sin of grain subsidies. But the cost of
healthy food is far less than it at first may seem. When we factor in the
direct savings in dental costs and chronic health issues for which our
family took various medications like allergies, sinus infections, acid
Oh, and a five minute batch of chocolate lasts me three months and costs a
fraction of what a three month supply of any chocolate bar would cost, let
alone one with 90% cocoa, little to no sugar, all organic, with butter and
coconut oil, soy lecithin free, and I don't know what all else even
I agree, but you are talking about long term savings over short term costs,
for a lot of people on a fixed income the only options are short term. What
this country needs is more access to fresh foods, in that way I miss the
city, where you can go buy fruit or veggies from all around the world at
Patrick,
I take it you are going to leave us with a list of ingredients but no
recipe? While I admit I like a bit of experimentation, I'm pretty sure I'd
mess it up. So...um...just what is that recipe again?
Aloha,
Bob
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Hear hear, I do love dark chocolate, umm really all chocolate..
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com
wrote:
Patrick,
I take it you are going to leave us with a list of ingredients but no
recipe? While I admit I like a bit of experimentation, I'm pretty
Berthoud has one, Compass says theirs has one, and Boulder cycles says they
have an in-house proprietary made one.
Are they all the same or different?
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I prefer Mixed Terrain my self.
-Hugh
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:00:04 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote:
Right, and GP wasn't the only one preaching that sermon. There was also Jan
Heine and to a lesser extent and more recently, VO.
I do dislike the term gravel grinding, because it has
Deacon, so it sounds like you have 0 standover on the Quickbeam? That's
where I'm at on the 56cm Atlantis. I can straddle the top tube with both
feet flat on the ground with my shoes, not so much in socks. I recently
slid forward off the saddle for the first time riding some rough terrain
On 11/06/2014 06:20 PM, Wildcat96 wrote:
Deacon, so it sounds like you have 0 standover on the Quickbeam?
That's where I'm at on the 56cm Atlantis. I can straddle the top
tube with both feet flat on the ground with my shoes, not so much in
socks.
Do you ride much in your socks?
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The bag I got from Boulder cycles has both a plastic stiffener supplied by
Berthoud and an aluminum stiffener (a U-shaped aluminum strip the bolts to
the back and sides of the bag) supplied by Boulder. I dumped the plastic
and am just using the aluminum, which works fine. I sewed myself some
Och! Right. Sorry lads! Most cruel of me. My wife cooks like I run and
ride: by feel. So she doesn't measure and has no written recipe. I asked
for her best guess and she said:
1 cup: Cocoa butter/coconut oil/butter/ghee in preferred combo totaling 1
cup melted. Coconut oil/butter/ghee
Cost wise, we know several families of 8 who are paleo who spend $1k a
month on food (but they don't do organic or grass fed/wild caught). But
their kids are not yet teens. We have a teen and tween and two youngers and
our budget is higher than that. We also buy only organic and grass fed/wild
Yes, I'm close to zero standover on my Quickbeam. My shoes aren't thicker
than socks, but I measured by PBH barefoot, so there is a mew extra mm in
there. Never once squashed the berries. The Hunqapiller has a bit more
room, but only closer to the seat post, as it has more top tube slope.
The stiffener that comes with Berthouds is high-density cardboard.
Anton
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:27:27 PM UTC-5, NickBull wrote:
The bag I got from Boulder cycles has both a plastic stiffener supplied by
Berthoud and an aluminum stiffener (a U-shaped aluminum strip the bolts to
That's actually a better descriptive term but it doesn't quite roll off the
tongue like ATB or MTB. :)
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:14:38 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
I prefer Mixed Terrain my self.
-Hugh
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:00:04 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote:
Right, and
Any used ones out there? I'm swapping one between bikes, and figure it
might be easier to just commit!
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THERE IS ONE GROK. KNEEL BEFORE GROK!
I guess squat before Grok would make more sense.
Anyways.
-J
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:13:32 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 11/06/2014 05:02 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
There is simply too much we do not know to say the paleo lifespan was
MT
-Hugh
On Nov 6, 2014 4:39 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
That's actually a better descriptive term but it doesn't quite roll off
the tongue like ATB or MTB. :)
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:14:38 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
I prefer
A racing double has long been a recommendation for 1/2 step+granny setups,
especially on low-Q cranksets like TA Pro V and Stronglight 49. For about
six years, I've used a 70s Campy Record with a slightly wider TA triple:
50-46-26 on a Raleigh International. I've long suspected that this is
So I would guess that Compass is talking about the stock Berthoud cardboard
stiffner when they mention it in their description?
It is confusing because I have also hear of a Berthoud stiffner that is
like 1/2 or a whole pound or something? But I wouldn't think the cardboard
weighs that much.
This is a very cool stem, brutalist almost. The ones riv sold were higher rise
than the older production ones. The riv ones came from a stash of rawish
forgings that nitto found, riv requested them to have as much quill as
possible. The riv ones might have had better polish but less
Pardon the poor image quality... I met up with Tom at about 4:30 today to
pick up my new blue 56 Bombadil. It was a real pleasure meeting you Tom,
thanks for the fantastic bike!
While the bike came with a sweet Bullmoose cockpit I have a ~80 mile ride
planned for Veterans Day and I didn't
Strike that, it's a 32F I'm looking for:
http://boulderbicycle.bike/Bags-and-Racks/Nitto-Racks-and-hardware/Nitto-Campee-32F-Campee-front-rack-New-Lower-Price.html
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Any used ones out there? I'm swapping one between bikes,
I was wondering what you were gunna do with that big rack. 32F otherwise
known as the mini campee.
~mike
Carlsbad Ca
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Very Sweet Tony. Enjoy.
~Hugh
Los Angeles, CA
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:42:16 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Pardon the poor image quality... I met up with Tom at about 4:30 today to
pick up my new blue 56 Bombadil. It was a real pleasure meeting you Tom,
thanks for the fantastic
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