[RBW] D2R2 2015

2015-08-17 Thread alford
I'll be there on my blue Sam, riding the 100km route. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-08-17 Thread islaysteve
The latest Blug has a funky map of the new dealers' locations, and a link to the updated dealers page. Very interesting. Gravel Grind is there of course. I hope to visit there soon; it's near our favorite breakfast (and lunch place), Family Meal. The swap meet in Sept sounds like fun. --

[RBW] Re: FS: mustache cockpit-nitto bars/dirt drop, shimano bar ends/levers

2015-08-17 Thread drew
last call. 160$ shipped. goes up on ebay tomorrow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Liquid Proofide?

2015-08-17 Thread Evan E.
I think fridge storage is a good idea. If it's true the Proofide contains tallow, then refrigeration will delay rancidity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Can a Blue Sam stand up to these kinds of dirt trails?

2015-08-17 Thread dougP
John: What size Smart Sams are you using? Been musing that 45s would provide a bit of extra clearance over the 40 mm Marathons I've been using. I get the odd pedal strike with my Atlantis. dougP On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 7:00:47 PM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote: I've been riding trails all

Re: [RBW] Re: Searching for a cheapo saddle with B17 like fit

2015-08-17 Thread Joe Broach
​On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Count me as one who finds the WTB SST pretty close to a B17. You can't really compare plastic and leather saddle widths directly because of the leather saddles' frames and rivets. The SST is about 145mm wide, about

[RBW] Re: Can a Blue Sam stand up to these kinds of dirt trails?

2015-08-17 Thread Surlyprof
I've been riding trails all summer with Smart Sams on the Hillborne. Almost feels like I'm back in the '80's riding southern California trails on my old '86 ('87?) Ritchey Comp. After a few shock fork MTBs, I'm back to riding rigid with the Sam. I do find that the bottom bracket is a little

[RBW] Good Error Resolution from Alex's Cycle in Japan

2015-08-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
Riv Content: It's fine to complain about Rivendell here, but first give them the chance to make it right. So, I wanted a Nitto 27F front rack and Ostrich DLX panniers. Bought domestically, from Soma for example, they would have cost me $310 + $166 + $166 + CA tax + shipping, around $700.

[RBW] WTB large saddlesack

2015-08-17 Thread dylan alverson
Looking to buy large saddlesack. Open to any color or condition. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Wheelbuilding Questions - Even tension

2015-08-17 Thread cyclotourist
Great reply! On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I have a spoke tension meter from Park

[RBW] Re: FS: Mavic MA2 wheelset, chorus hubs, Sachs 13-26 FW

2015-08-17 Thread Joel Stern
Sold, thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread ascpgh
I like toe straps, I keep a couple on the bike all the time. Through the front wheel and around the down tube makes the bike both rigid and non-rolling. Perfect for an incidental lean with more than incidental stability. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 10:52:31 AM

Re: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread cyclotourist
I love kickstands. My favorite bike accessory. Two legger, one legger, rear triangle, whatever. Just great. BTW, a short piece of fuel line wedged into the brake lever works great to keep the brake on when parking. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:21 PM, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: I like toe

[RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Mike Shaljian
Shoving in with a FS offer: I have a brand new Pletscher Twin-Legger (silver) kickstand that I bought from Rivendell months ago for my mountain bike. It turns out it's better to buy a top tube protector and lean those against things. $35 shipped anywhere in the conterminous US. Message me off

[RBW] Re: Single Speed Sam on Blug

2015-08-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
I know that may sound like a hyperbolic comparison, since I'm just a dude waiting for some pine tar soap and a John's Irish strap to his my porch, and those guys were like, in OUTER SPACE careening around in a broken vessel, but, hey, that's how it feels TO ME! Know what I mean? My shipment

[RBW] A more civilized and relaxing s24o report!

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Reimer
After last weekend's swamp adventure, it was time to dial things back a bit. I spent Friday building up my wife's Surly Cross Check with a few Riv accents - Albatross bar, bar-end shifters, green-label Jack Brown's, Brooks B17S, small Wald basket, even gave my best shot at a harlequin wrap with

RE: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Aside from the convenience of a kick stand, I am beginning to like kick stands less and less. I no longer trust them (especially on a loaded bike) to do their job without causing undue stress on a frame. For me, it's lean it or lay it down. I thought the Flickstand was a novel idea, and

[RBW] Wheelbuilding Questions - Even tension

2015-08-17 Thread Toby Whitfield
Sorry for the double post and slightly OT post here. I meant to post this to the ibob list, but put it here instead. Sorry for clogging up your inboxes. If you have anything to add, and are on both lists, I think the ibob list would be better, but happy for all advice here too! Thanks, and

[RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Kieran J
What about a double-legger for strictly front-loading, i.e., on a porteur? If the main carrying weight of the bike is on the front, and the front wheel is always supporting it by virtue of never leaving the ground, would a plate-mounted kickstand that elevates the rear wheel and only supports

[RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Will
This has been an interesting discussion. I am wondering if Riv's preferences for large seat bags exerabates the kickstand problems. Large seat bags put cargo weight high and slightly behind the kickstand strut (when parked), so that the kickstand strut doesn't directly support the weight.

[RBW] WTT/WTB: VO Touring pedlas and VO Half Clips

2015-08-17 Thread Brian Campbell
I wanted to try the VO touring pedals with some VO half clips if anybody has either to trade or sell. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

RE: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Which rear mount kickstand are you using? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Sweedler Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 7:51 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk Here is a

[RBW] Re: Tech question: Silver bar-end pods with Dura Ace 10spd DT shifters?

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Reimer
Oddly I had a bit of a different experience. In the smallest cog, the shifter pointed straight at the ground, but also like you said when in the largest cog, it pointed nearly straight up. It's like the lever had 180 degrees of travel. Didn't seem to be a problem for my wife though, she loved

[RBW] Wheelbuilding Questions - Even tension

2015-08-17 Thread Toby Whitfield
I just built a new set of wheels, which is the first time in a while for me. I built a couple a number of years ago, but from old parts as an experiment, and never really used the wheels, which is all to say I am pretty new at this. My question is about tension evenness. I got the wheels up

RE: [RBW] Wheelbuilding Questions - Even tension

2015-08-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I have a spoke tension meter from Park (http://www.jensonusa.com/!5ZNVsr7o541FBdQt1daMLg!/Park-Tool-TM-1-Spoke-Tension-Meter?utm_source=FRGLutm_medium=organicgclid=CKymw4KpsMcCFQUMaQodbTQKYw ), and the instructions say that you should measure the tension of all spokes on one side, average them,

[RBW] WTB large saddlesack

2015-08-17 Thread bo richardson
there is one on ebay at30$ with a bit over a day left -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Bicycles in federal wilderness lobbying

2015-08-17 Thread dstein
Saw this today and curious of the group's thoughts on this: http://www.sustainabletrailscoalition.org/ On the one hand, all they are aiming to do is lift a blanket ban on bikes in federal wilderness areas and trails so that land manager can make a decision on whether bikes would be allowed on

Re: [RBW] Bicycles in federal wilderness lobbying

2015-08-17 Thread cyclotourist
I think the millions of acres of CA forests going up in smoke (heading to Utah!) in recent years might be a touch more destructive than letting bikes in Wilderness areas. :-) Open it up, all of it. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:44 PM, dstein davecst...@gmail.com wrote: Saw this today and curious of

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Tom Virgil
Minh, Exactly what I did on Sam and the Boulder. Gone. Not missing them. ~Tom On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 1:18:14 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: Hmm I think it's time to lighten my Sam and take off the kickstand. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

RE: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Seems to me that the load on a 2-legger might be much less on a front load bike like the P/R than on the typical Riv bike From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:10 PM To:

[RBW] Liquid Proofide?

2015-08-17 Thread Fred Craven
My new Brooks saddle arrived last week. Yesterday, I finally had the chance to unboxed it. It's beautiful...and the Proofide is liquid. Some of it spilled in the box. I'm guessing that it reached some extreme temperature on it's a journey to Texas on the UPS truck that it doesn't want to go

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
A velcro legband also makes an excellent parking brake, wrapped tight around the brakelever An Arno Strap or Irish strap makes an excellent Flopper Stopper wrapped tight around the downtube and front wheel On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 10:06:02 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Patrick:

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Patrick: Flickstand does 2 things: keeps the wheel from rotating or steering (flopping). If you can get a rubber band to do both I would be dually impressed... Bobby maybe I don't know rubber bands Birmingham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Liquid Proofide?

2015-08-17 Thread Ron Mc
I keep the proofide in my garage, in the hill country just north of San Antonio. In the summer, it's about the consistency of vasoline, and in the winter it's like cool butter. I can definitely see it going to liquid after a few summer days in the back of a UPS truck. I also have around

[RBW] Re: FS: 52CM Blue and Cream Hillborne - Rivendell Albatross Build

2015-08-17 Thread Johnny Alien
I have some new photos and will post them later when I am on my home computer. I believe that I sent them to everyone that was interested but if you didn't get them or if you are interested in seeing them let me know. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Patrick Moore
An easy, convenient alternative to a Flickstand, which doesn't work with fenders, is a short, stout rubber band around your front brake lever. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Aside from the convenience of a kick stand, I am beginning to like

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
I would expect so. On 08/17/2015 11:20 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: Seems to me that the load on a 2-legger might be much less on a front load bike like the P/R than on the typical Riv bike *From:*rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf

[RBW] Re: Liquid Proofide?

2015-08-17 Thread David Banzer
Proofide is just a mixture of oil and wax, maybe other stuff in it but I doubt it. It will melt in warmer temps. Personally, I find it easier for leather to soak up treatments when both leather and the treatment mixture are warmed up. David Chicago, IL On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 11:20:52 AM

[RBW] Re: A more civilized and relaxing s24o report!

2015-08-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
APPROVE!! On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 7:46:01 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: After last weekend's swamp adventure, it was time to dial things back a bit. I spent Friday building up my wife's Surly Cross Check with a few Riv accents - Albatross bar, bar-end shifters, green-label Jack

[RBW] Re: A more civilized and relaxing s24o report!

2015-08-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Beautiful! The adventure may be quieter, but no less stirring or deep. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 8:46:01 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote: After last weekend's swamp adventure, it was time to dial things back a bit. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Homer in green?!

2015-08-17 Thread David Yetter
Hi, All, Dave here. My family (along with my green Homer) recently moved to PDX. The frame is indeed stock Hunq green, and there's something about that lovely green on the Homer that really sings. The frame's currently one of the featured pics on the Riv homepage (much to my delight). Hope to

Re: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread Kieran J
A 1 section of an old inner tube works too! KJ On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 11:00:37 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: An easy, convenient alternative to a Flickstand, which doesn't work with fenders, is a short, stout rubber band around your front brake lever. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:52

[RBW] FS: Orange 56 Sam Hillbone, 1TT and Canti-levered, f/f/hs and brake hangers, $800

2015-08-17 Thread allenmichael
I just bought this a few months ago from another list member, but have decided not to build it up. Being honest with myself about my actual riding, I think I can get by fine with just my S1. The condition is excellent. There is at least one tiny paint chip I'm not sure in what country it was

[RBW] Re: Liquid Proofide?

2015-08-17 Thread EricK
I keep it in the fridge. Mine arrived on a very warm day, melted as expected and seeping out the tin. Fridge fixed it up nice and firm in no time. No harm. It will be 116 here in the desert today. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Single Speed Sam on Blug

2015-08-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
Dangit! Nothing ever works out! The good news: My box just arrived. Intact and everything More good news: My Ostrich DLX panniers are present and accounted for The bad news: They shipped me the wrong rack! I ordered a Nitto 27F front rack with detachable lowriders. They shipped the 27R

[RBW] Re: Can a Blue Sam stand up to these kinds of dirt trails?

2015-08-17 Thread Manuel Acosta
Agreed. You'll be fine as long as you know you're limits and take in slow if you need to -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Liquid Proofide?

2015-08-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Do you have an ice box? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-6, Fred Craven wrote: Anyone know how to reconstitute the Proofide? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Liquid Proofide?

2015-08-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Or you could send it to Mark R. and ask if it could accompany him on one of his -30˚F bikepacking trips, then FedEx it to you, though you may be without it till January or so. Or purchase multiple pints of ice cream and surround the Prooftide with these. If you wanted to then eat the ice cream

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread M D Smith
On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 1:06:02 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Patrick: Flickstand does 2 things: keeps the wheel from rotating or steering (flopping). If you can get a rubber band to do both I would be dually impressed... Bobby maybe I don't know rubber bands Birmingham To

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-17 Thread M D Smith
Sorry!!! but something like an old toe clip works better than a Kickstand: Should read Flickstand. Stupid auto correct -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Can a Blue Sam stand up to these kinds of dirt trails?

2015-08-17 Thread Neil
I love underbiking with my Sam. I have some short, fun local trails that I first explored on my 5-travel MTB...then the hardtail with a squish fork...and now my Sam. Sandy buff punctuated with shallow roots and sharp volcanics. Pure fun. It's all about technique, weight/unweight, and having