Re: [RBW] 2019 stats? Post'em if ya got'em

Kai, awful. That is an impressive log of miles, and I’m so sorry it was cut short. I’m curious about what caused your crash (you don’t have to answer) and what happened next. Could you get yourself to the ER? What did you do with your bike? Did bystanders help you? Is your bike still rideable?

[RBW] Re: Clem L set up

Thanks for all the responses. I think I'm going to get a Mark's rack to go with the medium basket I got for Christmas. This bike is just so much fun to ride I can't wait to get everything dialed in. On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 7:55:44 AM UTC-8, Keith Swanson wrote: > > I finally made my

Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

I am not totally familiar with the 1up system, but speaking about physics, hitch mounts and multi-bike racks in general. Theoretically, if capacity is 4, 50lb bikes then max load is 200lbs. The problem with one bike over 50lbs would likely be where it's located on the rack. Place the heaviest

[RBW] Saddle Position Question

I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis and am in need of the group's advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross bars for a more upright position--a choice which I've come to love. But when I sit more upright, I'm

Re: [RBW] Saddle Position Question

Saddle choice and setup is as personal as love, so I offer this FWIW. But my experience is that tilt is as crucial to comfort as height and sit bones and fore/aft position, and that a bad position will have to sliding forward to put excessive weight on shoulders, arms, and hands. I've tried the

[RBW] Re: Saddle Position Question

'Comically up-tilted' is where it's at. Several years ago I remember reading about mimicking the saddle on a horse, and I've never been more comfortable on my well-loved B17. Cheers. On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 11:27:43 PM UTC+5:45, Joe Bernard wrote: > > What Tom said, plus you may find

[RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

Reach out to the folks at Analog Cycles, last I heard they had a solution to this conundrum. I think they sourced a UK brandmight even have one in stock for you! Cheers, Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: My Clem Build

Joe: I really like your crank/cassette set up. What parts did you use? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

Black rings actually look fine an silver cranks. Removing the black from anodized parts with chemicals for the sake of aesthetics doesn't speak very highly of those aesthetics . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Saddle Position Question

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.php On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 11:41 AM Andrew Nussbaum wrote: > I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis > and am in need of the > group's advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Position Question

I and others I've talked to have found that, sometimes, sliding your saddle back alleviates weight on your hands. Once again, see Peter Jon White's essay on bike fit. Contrary to popular belief, sitting upright and close to a high bar is not always as comfortable as having the saddle shoved back,

[RBW] Re: My Clem Build

Yep, 52cm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: My Clem Build

Hi Ann, The cranks are Rivendell Silver 173mm triple. I installed a Raceface Narrow Wide 38t 110bcd. The rear is a Shimano 11-42 SLX 10-speed cassette. In order to get the rear derailleur to be able to swing to the 42t I used an 11-speed SLX medium cage rear derailleur. The chain is an E-bike

[RBW] Re: Saddle Position Question

Any thoughts on the lateral position of the saddle? Should I move it forward or back? On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 10:42:43 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > What Tom said, plus you may find that what looks and feels almost > comically up-tilted at first becomes the thing you like. I find

[RBW] Re: Rivelo closing in January

And Breadwinner is closing their cafe. They are still going with frames and Sugar Wheels, but it seems from the outside that the Portland bike scene has contracted dramatically, I hope John keeps on as a focus of the “Ride Bikes Shoot Film” movement. I just replaced the bellows on an old

[RBW] Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

I was going to suggest Blackspire, but it seems their offering in this size is also black. https://www.blackspire.com/product/110mm-bcd-narrowwide-snaggletooth-cx/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

I’ve also read where some folks keep a small piece of rigid foam in their bike bag to wedge between tire and fender to equalize the “pressure” exerted on the fender by the 1Up bar. Quotes around “pressure” because you don’t need that much...certainly not enough to damage a fender. Nice idea,

Re: [RBW] Re: My Clem Build

Here’s the one I got: https://crustbikes.com/products/nitto-31-8-30-60mm-stem/ It’s about an 1/8” wider and uses larger M6 screws. 125mm of rise too! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Rivelo closing in January

I can't even imagine how hard it is to support a physical store in The Age Of Amazon. I'm thinking..SUPER hard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: My Clem Build

Yes, I think you've hit the nail on it's head there! The standard rise Jones, looks much better aesthetically and functionally.  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

I use a 3 place 1 up and I wouldn’t worry about the weight capacity. It’s very stout. I carry an ebike, Cheviot, and an Atlantis, all with fenders. The Cheviot is my only bike with metal fenders. I adjusted that foam fender piece so it meets the fender just above the fender stay. I’ve had no

[RBW] Re: 2019 stats? Post'em if ya got'em

Dorothy, awesome! I love your goal for 2020. I also loved reading about your bikes - I, too, want a Cheviot with dynamo lighting! We’re kindred spirits since I have the 2019 Clem L (blue) and am also using my Apple Watch to log miles. I downloaded Map My Ride and used it yesterday for the first

[RBW] Saddle Position Question

Yep, continue tilting the nose up no more than 1/8” at a time till it feels right. I know that doesn’t sound like much, but you need to do this in small increments. You’ll know it when you’ve reached the right tilt for you. Everyone’s different... Tom -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Saddle Position Question

What Tom said, plus you may find that what looks and feels almost comically up-tilted at first becomes the thing you like. I find the rear portion of a broken-in B17 to be as comfy as a couch, and with the saddle tilted way back so there isn't even a hint of sliding forward/down towards the

[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Industries Sugarloaf Wald Basket Bag

Sent you a PM yesterday. On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 11:51:28 AM UTC-6, timcla...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > > Its that time of year to make room for another bike project: > > > For sale is a Swift Sugarloaf Basket Bag. Designed to attach securely and fit > perfectly into a Wald

[RBW] 1/1/20 Blahg

Honorable? Lol. Bike geeks aren't Jedis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

[RBW] Triple Threat Goop

If anybody bought more than one and would like to share the love and start the new year in the positive karma column, please send one my way (off line). You will be handsomely rewarded. Happy New Year! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] FS-Tires: Compass/RH 700x35 and Simworks Volummy

Heyo, The supple fairy visited me last week and I am no longer in need of these tires. *$70 shipped*: 700x35 Rene Hearse/Compass Bon Jon extralights, tan. Maybe 50 miles on them on the front. No slashes or cuts and pretty much new except for road grime and some orange seal boogers. They

[RBW] Re: FS-Tires: Compass/RH 700x35 and Simworks Volummy

Quick update, this is for only ONE tire of each, I may not have been clear on that, whoops. Collin A On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 12:22:12 PM UTC-8, Collin A wrote: > > Heyo, > > The supple fairy visited me last week and I am no longer in need of these > tires. > > *$70 shipped*: 700x35

Re: [RBW] Appreciation for my 1998 LongLow

Thanks, Andrew. Perhaps there's more difference between a Riv Road standard and a LongLow than I had thought. Again, thanks for the ride post. On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:39 AM BSWP wrote: > Patrick, > > I am guessing less than 10,000 miles on the oldest parts. I do lots of > short rides, and a

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

Agreed on both counts but especially LWB. There's a lot of things he's right about and it doesn't take a stretch to get on his side regarding, like steel, rim brakes, threaded steerers, leather saddles, and so on. Asking the average cyclist with Rivendell money to take a chance on a bike with

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Position Question

The best words of 2020: Holy Grail, baby..if you aren't thinking about how the saddle feels, it works! •Joe Bearnard Thanks Joe, Curtis On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 4:40 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Yes, I would agree with Patrick the Deacon. I discovered my way-up tilt by > accident

Re: [RBW] 1/1/20 Blahg

I'll let Grant defend himself on indexing. I will only add that I am personally very glad that refined friction shifting systems he marketare still being developed and put on the market. On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:55 PM masmojo wrote: > Well, I love Grant and he's right a lot of the time about a

[RBW] 1/1/20 Blahg

Well, I love Grant and he's right a lot of the time about a lot of things, but it's my personal belief is index shifting ain't one of them. I really don't think index shifting was intended for "lazy" people. I never really appreciated index shifting until I started riding mountain bikes; and

Re: [RBW] 2019 stats? Post'em if ya got'em

Kai, I'm so sorry about your injury. May you have a speedy recovery without any complications or long term negative effects! My daughter lives in Brooklyn so I'm familiar with your riding environment. Almost five thousand miles in 2019 primarily on the streets of NYC is definitely well earned!

Re: [RBW] 1/1/20 Blahg

What does this reply refer to? On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:02 PM Daniel D. wrote: > Honorable? Lol. Bike geeks aren't Jedis. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

masmojo said index shifting is indispensable for mountain biking, but said he doesn't like trigger shifters. What do you use on your mountain bike(s) if you don't use trigger shifters? Grip shift? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 1:55:08 PM UTC-8, masmojo wrote:

[RBW] Re: Saddle Position Question

A quick way to test the concept of nose up/down is to set it to an extreme up position, ride it and get as used to it as you can for a few blocks, then half the angle down and see if that's better or worse. Keep halving as desired, so the incrimental change is less and less, riding them a bit

[RBW] Re: 2019 stats? Post'em if ya got'em

2019 was a good riding year for me. I enjoy riding at least as much at this juncture as I ever have. - 4100 total miles (3200 miles in 2018), mostly commuting on the Hunqapillar. I also explored more of the country roads in Napa on my Romulus (the only bike I have without fenders or

Re: [RBW] 1/1/20 Blahg

Gotta agree with you. I have both friction- and index-shifting bikes, including one bike with Campagnolo Ergo levers that I haven’t been on in a couple of years. I enjoy them both, but when you’re getting tired at the end of a long ride it is such a convenience not to have to hunt around for a

[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters on downtube?

Will told me it needs the adapter, same as for the long Silvers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Saddle Position Question

Yes, I would agree with Patrick the Deacon. I discovered my way-up tilt by accident after it slipped on a ride and I decided to just put up with it until I got home. By the time I got there I realized it felt weird at first, then I completely forgotten about my saddle. That's the Holy Grail,

Re: [RBW] 1/1/20 Blahg

To explain: It seems only polite that people should give sufficient context for their replies; social courtesy, so to speak. To plop a brief sentence into the middle of a thread without any context to make it intelligible seems to me to be not only rude but self defeating. On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

Now - since Benz mentioned it - transporting long Rivs in/on cars is a whole 'nother matter. My quite long Chevy Impala with big trunk and fold-down rear seats swallows a 45cm Clem L with the front wheel off easily. My recent 52 Clem H, not so much. That bike was big! -- You received this

[RBW] Still deciding whether you folks are a good influence or a bad influence...

Two notes about your frame. 1. Those BBs are (I believe, I don't think Mark would do that) installed in Taiwan and they are indeed a BUGGER to remove. 2. Your seattube isn't too big, your post is too small. I've had a few of those MIT frames with the slipping post problem and each was solved

[RBW] Re: WTB: Ram or Hilsen fork, 260mm steerer (for resurrection)

Thanks for the responses. It has been a busy few weeks and I haven't had the chance to think about this again. I’m now rethinking what might work on the Sequoia… I’m a rookie in the world of caliper brakes and didn’t consider the drastic effect that tire clearance might have on suitability.

[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters on downtube?

Has anyone tried to mount the new Silver shifters on a Paul bar thumb-shifter mount? On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:08:52 PM UTC-5, Wyatt wrote: > > Has anyone mounted the Silver2 shifters on a downtube yet? Curious to see > how that looks and works. -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Triple Threat Goop

I'd like to think I have some positive karma because I ONLY bought one :) On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:35 PM Mark Roland wrote: > If anybody bought more than one and would like to share the love and start > the new year in the positive karma column, please send one my way (off > line). You will be

[RBW] 1/1/20 Blahg

As usual, fun, miscellaneous, non-organized content. Much on slant parallels and indexing and the power of Shimano and the smallness of SunTour. But, perhaps this is worth a breath: sure, everyone nowadays wants 13 in back and trouble-free electric, indexed shifting. BUT! I would not be surprised

Re: [RBW] Saddle Position Question

My B17 tilt,in the words of Doug Fattic,is an aberation!! But it has to be there or I slide forward. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 1:55:08 PM UTC-8, masmojo wrote: > > Second, I think this whole long wheelbase thing is getting completely out > of hand. I agree that a super short wheelbase is sort of overkill, but > there's no reason a Clem should have the wheelbase it does. In fact all >

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

It is my understanding that Riv frames are the one product they sell as many of as they can make. The Roadini was an exception and it had shorter stays than the other stuff, I don't think Grant's longbikes are a marketing issue. I love Silver Power Ratchet shifters but they do indeed belong in

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

As Grant well pointed out, SunTour lives on in every derailleur made today. In 1988, even Campy bit the bullet and copied SunTour -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Rack choice for Wald basket on a Hillborne

I've got a Sam Hillborne and a Wald basket (medium) that I had rigged up with a Racktime front rack. That combo proved problematic so I ditched the Racktime rack. What are the better front rack alternatives for the Wald basket? Is the Mark's rack good for the Wald baskets? -- You received

[RBW] Rack choice for Wald basket on a Hillborne

If it’s a canti-Sam the nitto 32f is a perfect fit, just bolt on and go. If sidepull, a marks rack is the way to go. I have a lightly used 32f if you are interested. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters on downtube?

Nope, it's a base that sits on top of the Paul base, then the Silver shifter sits on that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Still deciding whether you folks are a good influence or a bad influence...

Thanks for the "Tacx T4415 Cartridge Tool" tip. Will definitely get one for my tool kit. It's definitely a bugger to remove specially if the threads of the bottom bracket were not chased before installation. On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 1:28 PM Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > On Thursday, January 2,

[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters on downtube?

These doohickeys. On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 9:44:47 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > Nope, it's a base that sits on top of the Paul base, then the Silver shifter > sits on that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters on downtube?

Unfortunately not anymore. Paul Components used to make one but they discontinued it, right now there's no way to get Silvers on Pauls unless you can find used adapters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] 1/1/20 Blahg

They’re hard to wheelie? Grant belittles a “playful” mountain bike in this post, but getting the front end up to get over an obstacle, or just to have fun, is part of mountain biking. My Jones LWB is a very capable mountain bike, but it’s noticeably harder to loft the front than a shorter stayed

[RBW] Re: Still deciding whether you folks are a good influence or a bad influence...

Grats on the bikes. On the seatpost, you can try using an aluminum soda can as a shim to fill the gap without having to get a new seat post. (Others may have ideas on thin shimming materials as well.) Also, "carbon assembly paste" can help get stiction between the tube/shim/seatpost to help

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Position Question

I had never read Peter's article. Very helpful. Thanks for sharing! And I have some homework from Deacon Patrick! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Still deciding whether you folks are a good influence or a bad influence...

On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 5:41:04 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Two notes about your frame. > > 1. Those BBs are (I believe, I don't think Mark would do that) installed > in Taiwan and they are indeed a BUGGER to remove. > > If your square taper Shimano-splined BB is hard to remove,

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

Interesting. While it would still be necessary to market friction shifting and long chainstays and rim brakes in contrast to what is on most other bicycles, you would really focus on the skills and the connection between the rider and the bicycle and the environment. I've long been interested

[RBW] Re: Still deciding whether you folks are a good influence or a bad influence...

I have a slipping post on my new Clem too. Vince told me a 27 won't fit. He said they could knurl the post to fix the problem. Luckily they're just down the street from me so I'm going to stop by and let them knurl away. Give them a call. They'll help. jim m wc, ca -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Still deciding whether you folks are a good influence or a bad influence...

The bummer is the seatpost Riv sources in Taiwan. I'll bet money that sucker is actually 26.7, they all require being cranked down hard and I've had several that still slipped anyway. The Nitto 26.8 in both types Riv sells are physically bigger posts. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters on downtube?

On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 4:26:14 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Will told me it needs the adapter, same as for the long Silvers. Isn't the adaptor for transforming the original Silver shifters from bar-end to downtube this part

[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters on downtube?

Joe I’m behind on all this - is there an adapter? I looked around and can’t find it. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Still deciding whether you folks are a good influence or a bad influence...

+1 on the soda can shim. That’s a bummer about the seat tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Triple Threat Goop

On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-8, Mark Roland wrote: > > If anybody bought more than one and would like to share the love and start > the new year in the positive karma column, please send one my way (off > line). You will be handsomely rewarded. Happy New Year! > I can't

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

I don't think he's right about the return of dt shifters. I would also contest his contention that manual shift is making a comeback in sports cars; there's a stalwart few who never abandoned them, but I'm not seeing a mad rush back in that area. Dual-clutch semi-autos with paddle shifters are

[RBW] 2019 stats? Post'em if ya got'em

Strava, which I try to use most of the time says 4638 miles for the year, so around 5 g's with some nondigitized rolls. Unfortunately cut short due to a majorly mashed right clavicle on November 27th, necessitating 8 screws and a titanium collarbone lug/splint. Minus a long day with the 25th