[RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[brendonoid]

I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence braking 
and cornering. 
I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and the 
Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't go back 
to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[brendonoid]

Oh man, I almost missed this amazing ride report between all the FS posts.
Such a great write up! Thank you again Eric for all your thoughtful 
contributions to this community.

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Great question, John. I did indeed change the bottom bracket. I went from a 
117mm to a 113mm. The clearance is pretty nuts, the chainring bolts just 
clear the chainstay, I can slide an index card between the two and that's 
it. 

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 3:14:52 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Eric
>
> Great ride report.  One question:   Did you install a shorter BB when you 
> changed cranks from the Sugino XD2 triple to the SunXCD double??
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Shenandoah Foothills
>> 47 miles, 5,380 feet
>> Clear. Low 60s in the morning, warming to the high 70s, humidity at 50% 
>> and below. 
>>
>> August in Virginia is typically a warm and uncomfortable month with 
>> average temperatures in the mid 80s and often creeping into the upper 90s. 
>> Humidity is unpleasantly high as well. The past few weeks were particularly 
>> oppressive with humidity averaging around 70% (and often much higher) and 
>> temperatures reaching the 90s most days. These temps have forced the smart 
>> riders to depart at first light, drenched to the bone before 8AM. 
>>
>> We had a break from all of that this weekend with temperatures dipping 
>> into a realm of unseasonable deliciousness. Low humidity, a cool morning 
>> starting in the high 50s and a max temperature around 80º had this Saturday 
>> looking too good to pass by unridden. 
>>
>> I recently swapped out the drivetrain on my Hillborne. I had been running 
>> a Sugino XD2 with a 48/36/24, a Shimano 11-36 9-speed cassette, a plain 
>> silver Shimano Ultegra front mech and a Shimano Deore XT M771 rear 
>> derailer. These worked just fine but I found the chainrings left me 
>> shifting at awkward intervals and I'd been wanting to try a compact double. 
>>
>> So I changed in a SunXCD crank with 42/26 chainrings from TA Specialites 
>> purchased from Jitensha Studio in Berkeley. Because I found the Shimano 
>> mechs were too ugly for my liking I sought out a Suntour Cyclone GT rear 
>> and a Cyclone front derailer. These lovely workhorses seemed more 
>> appropriate for the bike. I installed one of the new S-Ride 7-speed 
>> cassettes from Soma Fab Shop, made with input from Rivendell. The movement 
>> and tooth capacity of the rear Cyclone didn't agree with a 9-speed 
>> cassette. And I swapped my MKS XC-III bear-trap pedals for MKS Sylvan 
>> Gorditos specified by Crust. The bear-traps were uncomfortable for my very 
>> wide feet.
>>
>> A friend sent me a used set of Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires in the 
>> extralight casing, which I hadn't tried before. I'd been running the same 
>> in the standard casing for about a year. The new-to-me tires were buttery 
>> smooth and I had no issues or flats during my ride. 
>>
>> Lately I have been enjoying Jobst Brandt's alpine tour reports with 
>> sensational views, grand distances and unfathomable amounts of climbing. 
>> I've also been reading Ray Hosler's collection of diaries from riding with 
>> Brandt around the Santa Cruz Mountains in the 1980s. So inspired I made up 
>> a route for myself that incorporated a few tough climbs on some of my 
>> favorite roads. The length and elevation gain of my route doesn't compare 
>> to their marathon rides.  
>>
>> From the start I began a three-mile climb over loose, unpaved road with 
>> sections pitching up over 16% grade. I enjoy the challenge of making this 
>> climb in one go but there is a shoulder with a wide mountain view that I 
>> always end up stopping for. Pedaling up the climb, and some of the steepest 
>> stuff I know, was manageable with my new gearing. I enjoy dumping the chain 
>> from the 42-tooth to the 26-tooth ring when the going gets going. 
>> Throughout the ride I had appropriate gearing to make it through without 
>> much trouble. 
>>
>> [image: 20220813A 03.jpg]
>>
>> At the top of this hill, at an elevation of 1,300 feet, I took a rest for 
>> some water. Though I had ridden fewer than four miles I decided to have 
>> half of the sandwich I'd packed: peanut butter, banana, honey, coconut 
>> flakes and salt on sourdough bread. As a fat burner I was worried how the 
>> carbohydrates would treat me and concerned they would occasion bonking, 
>> which I don't experience on rides. My engine runs best when I don't eat 
>> bread, sugar, grain and the rest but I'd been craving a sandwich like this 
>> for weeks. It was a pleasure and I suffered no ill effects. 
>>
>> As I started on my descent, my shirt damp with sweat, I was reminded of 
>> how lovely the weather was. The air was cool and comfortable. Such a gift 
>> and a relief from the weather we've been experiencing lately. 
>>
>> The sunlight filtering through the trees on this wooded road left the 
>> surface sun dappled with some obstacles like ruts and fallen branches 
>> difficult to see in the high contrast situation. I would have ditched my 
>> sunglasses if they weren't so good at deflecting 

Re: [RBW] Randonneuring Bike

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Agree 100%. If you can’t sit in the saddle all day long, you won’t be 
successful. Comfort trumps pretty much everything else.

--Eric Norris
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> On Aug 18, 2022, at 4:02 PM, Wesley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dick,
> I've ben thinking about this myself. I believe the most important 
> consideration will be your ability to endure 24 hours in the saddle of your 
> bike. The pace for finishing a brevet within the time limit is not so fast 
> (8.25 mph), so any bike can get you there. As long as your bike puts the 
> seat, pedals, and handlebars into a comfortable configuration, you'll have a 
> good base. Then you can figure out what bars, tires, pedals, and saddle will 
> suit your preferred balance of speed and comfort.
> -W
> 
> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:52:59 PM UTC-7 Dick Combs wrote:
> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K rides. 
> Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks
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[RBW] Re: Randonneuring Bike

[Wesley]

Hi Dick,
I've ben thinking about this myself. I believe the most important 
consideration will be your ability to endure 24 hours in the saddle of your 
bike. The pace for finishing a brevet within the time limit is not so fast 
(8.25 mph), so any bike can get you there. As long as your bike puts the 
seat, pedals, and handlebars into a comfortable configuration, you'll have 
a good base. Then you can figure out what bars, tires, pedals, and saddle 
will suit your preferred balance of speed and comfort.
-W

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:52:59 PM UTC-7 Dick Combs wrote:

> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K rides. 
> Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Randonneuring Bike

[JohnS]

Hello Dick,

Sorry, no experience with riding a Riv for a brevet, but last year I did 
ride a 200K on a Crust Lighting Bolt Canti without any issues. Very 
comfortable with RH Babyshoe Pass tires. Highly recommend it.

JohnS

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Dick:
>
> People ride brevets and randonnees on every kind of bike, including this:
>
>
> https://www.bikeradar.com/news/back-pedalling-onion-man-attempts-paris-brest-paris/
>  
>
> You just need a comfortable, reliable bike with a lighting system and, 
> depending on local conditions, fenders for wet weather. 
>
> Depending on preferences, riders have found that virtually any kind of 
> bike meets those criteria. Look at the bikes ridden on PBP, and you’ll see 
> everything from lugged steel to carbon fiber, and from traditional bikes to 
> recumbents to stand-on Eliptigos. 
>
> I’ve done PBP on a fixed-gear Quickbeam and several other bikes, including 
> a purpose-built randonneuse from a French constructeur. It’s more fun with 
> multiple gears.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Aug 18, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Dick Combs  wrote:
>
> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K rides. 
> Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks 
>
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> .
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Randonneuring Bike

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dick:

People ride brevets and randonnees on every kind of bike, including this:

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/back-pedalling-onion-man-attempts-paris-brest-paris/
 

 

You just need a comfortable, reliable bike with a lighting system and, 
depending on local conditions, fenders for wet weather. 

Depending on preferences, riders have found that virtually any kind of bike 
meets those criteria. Look at the bikes ridden on PBP, and you’ll see 
everything from lugged steel to carbon fiber, and from traditional bikes to 
recumbents to stand-on Eliptigos. 

I’ve done PBP on a fixed-gear Quickbeam and several other bikes, including a 
purpose-built randonneuse from a French constructeur. It’s more fun with 
multiple gears.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Aug 18, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Dick Combs  wrote:
> 
> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K rides. 
> Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks
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[RBW] Randonneuring Bike

[Dick Combs]

Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K rides. 
Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks

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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto Technomic Deluxe

[Todd G]

Hi Seth, thanks for the offer! I’m wanting to bring the reach in a little 
bit, so I’m looking for a 90 or 100 Deluxe at this point. GLWS!

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:45:55 AM UTC-7 Seth wrote:

> I have a 120mm still in the package and unopened if you decide you want a 
> bit more reach. 
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 1:54 PM Todd G  wrote:
>
>> Looking for a 90 or 100mm Technomic Deluxe or NP stem with a 26mm clamp. 
>> Doesn’t need to be pristine, but does need to be in nice shape. 
>>
>> Please let me know if you have one or both to part with, Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Eric

Great ride report.  One question:   Did you install a shorter BB when you 
changed cranks from the Sugino XD2 triple to the SunXCD double??

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Shenandoah Foothills
> 47 miles, 5,380 feet
> Clear. Low 60s in the morning, warming to the high 70s, humidity at 50% 
> and below. 
>
> August in Virginia is typically a warm and uncomfortable month with 
> average temperatures in the mid 80s and often creeping into the upper 90s. 
> Humidity is unpleasantly high as well. The past few weeks were particularly 
> oppressive with humidity averaging around 70% (and often much higher) and 
> temperatures reaching the 90s most days. These temps have forced the smart 
> riders to depart at first light, drenched to the bone before 8AM. 
>
> We had a break from all of that this weekend with temperatures dipping 
> into a realm of unseasonable deliciousness. Low humidity, a cool morning 
> starting in the high 50s and a max temperature around 80º had this Saturday 
> looking too good to pass by unridden. 
>
> I recently swapped out the drivetrain on my Hillborne. I had been running 
> a Sugino XD2 with a 48/36/24, a Shimano 11-36 9-speed cassette, a plain 
> silver Shimano Ultegra front mech and a Shimano Deore XT M771 rear 
> derailer. These worked just fine but I found the chainrings left me 
> shifting at awkward intervals and I'd been wanting to try a compact double. 
>
> So I changed in a SunXCD crank with 42/26 chainrings from TA Specialites 
> purchased from Jitensha Studio in Berkeley. Because I found the Shimano 
> mechs were too ugly for my liking I sought out a Suntour Cyclone GT rear 
> and a Cyclone front derailer. These lovely workhorses seemed more 
> appropriate for the bike. I installed one of the new S-Ride 7-speed 
> cassettes from Soma Fab Shop, made with input from Rivendell. The movement 
> and tooth capacity of the rear Cyclone didn't agree with a 9-speed 
> cassette. And I swapped my MKS XC-III bear-trap pedals for MKS Sylvan 
> Gorditos specified by Crust. The bear-traps were uncomfortable for my very 
> wide feet.
>
> A friend sent me a used set of Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires in the 
> extralight casing, which I hadn't tried before. I'd been running the same 
> in the standard casing for about a year. The new-to-me tires were buttery 
> smooth and I had no issues or flats during my ride. 
>
> Lately I have been enjoying Jobst Brandt's alpine tour reports with 
> sensational views, grand distances and unfathomable amounts of climbing. 
> I've also been reading Ray Hosler's collection of diaries from riding with 
> Brandt around the Santa Cruz Mountains in the 1980s. So inspired I made up 
> a route for myself that incorporated a few tough climbs on some of my 
> favorite roads. The length and elevation gain of my route doesn't compare 
> to their marathon rides.  
>
> From the start I began a three-mile climb over loose, unpaved road with 
> sections pitching up over 16% grade. I enjoy the challenge of making this 
> climb in one go but there is a shoulder with a wide mountain view that I 
> always end up stopping for. Pedaling up the climb, and some of the steepest 
> stuff I know, was manageable with my new gearing. I enjoy dumping the chain 
> from the 42-tooth to the 26-tooth ring when the going gets going. 
> Throughout the ride I had appropriate gearing to make it through without 
> much trouble. 
>
> [image: 20220813A 03.jpg]
>
> At the top of this hill, at an elevation of 1,300 feet, I took a rest for 
> some water. Though I had ridden fewer than four miles I decided to have 
> half of the sandwich I'd packed: peanut butter, banana, honey, coconut 
> flakes and salt on sourdough bread. As a fat burner I was worried how the 
> carbohydrates would treat me and concerned they would occasion bonking, 
> which I don't experience on rides. My engine runs best when I don't eat 
> bread, sugar, grain and the rest but I'd been craving a sandwich like this 
> for weeks. It was a pleasure and I suffered no ill effects. 
>
> As I started on my descent, my shirt damp with sweat, I was reminded of 
> how lovely the weather was. The air was cool and comfortable. Such a gift 
> and a relief from the weather we've been experiencing lately. 
>
> The sunlight filtering through the trees on this wooded road left the 
> surface sun dappled with some obstacles like ruts and fallen branches 
> difficult to see in the high contrast situation. I would have ditched my 
> sunglasses if they weren't so good at deflecting flying insects. Perhaps I 
> will try some clear, anti-fog safety glasses. I stopped off at an abandoned 
> homestead to admire the weathered house, cabin and outbuilding with a 
> chimney built from fieldstone. Throughout the area there are old home sites 
> where all that remains is the original stone chimney. 
>
> [image: 20220813A 05.jpg]
>
> Further down I enjoyed a nice, gradual decent 

[RBW] Re: WTB: 65cm Clem Smith Jr. H

[JAS]

Oops!  Now I see you asked for "H", not "L"hope you find the bike of 
your dreams!

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:48:38 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> Mitch,
> There's a 64cm frameset w/wheelset on the Portland Craigslist.  Looks like 
> the bike is in Eugene.
> Good luck!
>
> Joyce
>
> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 12:52:11 AM UTC-7 mitchel...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello! In search of a big ole' 65cm Clem Smith Jr. H... Been chasing one 
>> of these for a while but I thought it wouldn't hurt to make a real post on 
>> the group. Lots of bikes have found new homes because of this place and I 
>> hope to make it happen again! Any leads are appreciated..
>>
>> Mitch from SF
>> 101pbh'r
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 65cm Clem Smith Jr. H

[JAS]

Mitch,
There's a 64cm frameset w/wheelset on the Portland Craigslist.  Looks like 
the bike is in Eugene.
Good luck!

Joyce

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> Hello! In search of a big ole' 65cm Clem Smith Jr. H... Been chasing one 
> of these for a while but I thought it wouldn't hurt to make a real post on 
> the group. Lots of bikes have found new homes because of this place and I 
> hope to make it happen again! Any leads are appreciated..
>
> Mitch from SF
> 101pbh'r
>
>
>

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[RBW] Searching for a 64cm Atlantis

[James]

I'm interested in buying a 64cm Toyo or Waterford Atlantis.  Complete or 
f/f/bb...  Let me know if you have one you would like to sell

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[RBW] WTB Mark's rack

[Wally Estrella]

Looking for a silver Mark's rack

Thanks,
Wally

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[RBW] WTB: 65cm Clem Smith Jr. H

[Mitch]

Hello! In search of a big ole' 65cm Clem Smith Jr. H... Been chasing one of 
these for a while but I thought it wouldn't hurt to make a real post on the 
group. Lots of bikes have found new homes because of this place and I hope 
to make it happen again! Any leads are appreciated..

Mitch from SF
101pbh'r


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