[RBW] Re: Polishing Frenzy
One more polishing question: how do you get the cassette and cranks so clean (especially in the deep recesses of the nooks and crannies)? The shine of the drivetrain and hubs is impressive. When are you publishing your photo book? :-) --One more who cycles the near the Chelsea Piers. On Jun 2, 11:30 pm, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey - I've seen your bike zip around Chelsea Piers. I've got a '92 Bridgestone X0-2 with Nitto Rack, Brooks seat, cork hand grips, and baggins bag.. say hello if you pass me. I've spotted some Riv gear on the hudson path - a new sackville bag.. Also some Velo Orange stuff as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wide-brimmed Headwear
Of course there are the hats by Sun Precautions: http://www.sunprecautions.com/shop_all.asp?CAT=haSUBCAT=0h Has anyone created a bicycle helmet with a wide 360-degree brim? On Jun 2, 2:31 pm, Paul paulr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget that the Tilley has a lifetime warranty. And they really will replace it hassle free. The problem with the filson is that you can't wash it all that well, not so bad in the rainy winter, but funky in the summer sun. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wide-brimmed Headwear
The best hat for active wear is a funnel web. See the range at http://www.funnelwebheadwear.com.au/funnelweb_index.html They are Australian, where winter means rolling down the sleeves of your shirt before riding to work in the morning. A country where basal cell carcinomas are a hideous reality and the twice yearly trip to the dermatologist is a practical necessity. Hats are serious business and Colin Usher makes the best. Do yourself a favour George Millwood Atlantis No 93 Sydney Australia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Foot position
Has anyone else seen this http://biomac.webstudios.at/index.php?option=com_contentview=frontpageItemid=1lang=en a clipless shoe manufacturer with the cleat under the instep. What next eh! regards George Millwood Atlantis No 93 Sydney Australia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wide-brimmed Headwear
Thank you for the link, George. The Worker looks like it would be a very good option for sunny riding. On Jun 3, 8:36 am, George Millwood millw...@bigpond.net.au wrote: The best hat for active wear is a funnel web. See the range at http://www.funnelwebheadwear.com.au/funnelweb_index.html They are Australian, where winter means rolling down the sleeves of your shirt before riding to work in the morning. A country where basal cell carcinomas are a hideous reality and the twice yearly trip to the dermatologist is a practical necessity. Hats are serious business and Colin Usher makes the best. Do yourself a favour George Millwood Atlantis No 93 Sydney Australia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Summer dressing part two
On Jun 2, 1:24 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I'm surprised you aren't simply awash in Mafac Racers. The Mafac Racers have been quickly snapped up by collectors and Francophiles who put them on their own bikes or tossed up on ebay. Worse, when a trashed bike comes to us, if it had Mafacs they've already been removed by whomever brought us the bike because these people KNOW what they have and know there is demand for them. They're mostly long gone in these parts. Meanwhile, your observations about cable/housing quality are astute, and I am leaning more and more towards going with the DC 750's. others on this list have indicated that the extra metal beneath the brake pad position isn't anything to worry about, as the calipers are drop forged and pretty sturdy. Thanks --Beth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] new front racks?
What is this I'm seeing about new front racks? http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3590671483/in/pool-rivendell and http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3591479728/in/pool-rivendell Is there any more info about them? Please? -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new front racks?
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: What is this I'm seeing about new front racks? http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3590671483/in/pool-rivendell and http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3591479728/in/pool-rivendell Is there any more info about them? Please? An interesting development, given Grant's general preference for rear loading. Nice looking bends on the one that extends the standard Nitto front. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wide-brimmed Headwear
I'm curious about all those wide brimmed hats for riding. I just has some Carolyn Custom Caps made and I specified 4 cm brims and should have specified 3 cm brims, because when I get any hat pulled down securely, any normal brim blocks my sight while riding. The 4 cms are good, but 3 cm would be even better. (Carolyn said, any smaller than 3 cm and things start getting ridiculous.) Maybe I have a very low forehead? At any rate, it's always a struggle both to keep a hat from blowing away and still see when on the hoods, let alone the hooks. Patrick But I *do* have short arms Moore --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new front racks?
Riv (grant?) mentions it in their (his?) latest Knothole post, in describing the new pictures in the rotation on the main page. It looks nice, like a campee touring rack with an extended porteur style platform. It looks great, and I assume it'll come out somewhere in the $200 price point, given the current price of the campee rack. I guess it'll compete with the VO porteur, Pass and Stow, etc. On Jun 3, 8:16 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: What is this I'm seeing about new front racks? http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3590671483/in/pool-rivendell and http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3591479728/in/pool-rivendell Is there any more info about them? Please? -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Summer dressing part two
Beth: My 50 mm Berthouds worked in a very tight situation -- Riv Road with Dia Comp normal single pivots and 32 mm tires. I expect that 45 mm VOs ought to work fine with up to 32 mm tires, tho' the clearance may be tight. IME, the principal restriction is the fork crown, not a single pivot caliper. As for centerpulls, Mafac, Weinmann, and Shimano, all worked well for me, best with Matthausers, tho' I do have a pair of Dura Ace centerpulls (perhaps rebranded Tourneys) that worked very, very well (I mean dual pivot well) with old black pads. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:09 AM, b hamon periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: Okay. I've selected the VO fenders. Measuring them against my existing brakes it will be an EXTREMELY tight fit. I may be compelled to switch over to center-pull brakes, not my favorite in terms of on-the-fly adjustment. So far all I've been able to snag around here are a pair of the long-reach Dia-Compe 750's, which I guess will work (though the pads will sit high and there will be a LOT of metal underneath). I don't have the budget to add braze-ons to my ten-year-old frame (for center-pulls OR cantis). Has anyone used these without brazing to the frame? Are they any better than the center-pulls of my youth? Is there another option which would work better in a similar price range? (Finding these used has gotten much harder since folks began doing 650b conversions with them...) Thanks --Beth http://bikelovejones.livejournal.com http://veloquent.blogspot.com -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Summer dressing part two
One more remark: Any problem I've had with brakes has been, largely, in the rear. But the new non-spiral brake cable (it looks like a beefier indexing deraileur cable) is highly un-compressible (that's an awkward phrasing!) and makes a huge difference for the formerly mushy rear mechanical disk on my mountain bike -- this I know is just one data point. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:18 AM, beth h periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 2, 1:24 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I'm surprised you aren't simply awash in Mafac Racers. The Mafac Racers have been quickly snapped up by collectors and Francophiles who put them on their own bikes or tossed up on ebay. Worse, when a trashed bike comes to us, if it had Mafacs they've already been removed by whomever brought us the bike because these people KNOW what they have and know there is demand for them. They're mostly long gone in these parts. Meanwhile, your observations about cable/housing quality are astute, and I am leaning more and more towards going with the DC 750's. others on this list have indicated that the extra metal beneath the brake pad position isn't anything to worry about, as the calipers are drop forged and pretty sturdy. Thanks --Beth -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 600k photos w/ride report
Here's my ride report for the 600k. It's long, like the ride, but figured I'd put it up here in case anyone was interested in reading it. I'm now off for my first post brevet ride. http://randobooks.blogspot.com/2009/06/oregon-600km-xtr.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Cirque du Cyclisme
Anybody heading to bucolic Leesburg, VA for the Cirque du Cyclisme this weekend? http://www.cirqueducyclisme.com/ (on topic photo from '08 Cirque): http://picasaweb.google.com/USAZorro/Cirque2008#5210274154650250930 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Cirque du Cyclisme
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody heading to bucolic Leesburg, VA for the Cirque du Cyclisme this weekend? http://www.cirqueducyclisme.com/ (on topic photo from '08 Cirque): I was thinking hard about it - but with no one to split the driving with 10 hours round-trip of driving is just a good way to ruin my love for the world. :) If the train ran just one more time a day I could do it all via train but I don't think I can reasonably drive it. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Cirque du Cyclisme
Quoting Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com: Anybody heading to bucolic Leesburg, VA for the Cirque du Cyclisme this weekend? http://www.cirqueducyclisme.com/ I'll be there on Sunday afternoon. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Cirque du Cyclisme
Two or three of us are coming from the Richmond, Virginia area. I went last year for the first time and really enjoyed it. Interesting mix of people, young and old, tatts and toupees, a very friendly group. The builders were very accessible and engaging and eagerly answered questions. On Jun 3, 4:08 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody heading to bucolic Leesburg, VA for the Cirque du Cyclisme this weekend? http://www.cirqueducyclisme.com/ (on topic photo from '08 Cirque): http://picasaweb.google.com/USAZorro/Cirque2008#5210274154650250930 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new front racks?
I already have a VO porteur rack, and love it. I'm still looking for the perfect bag. What I first wanted was one of the Hershberger baskets that sat on the porteur, but those aren't being made any longer. I also considered a Zugster porteur bag, but their waiting list is ridiculously long. I've considered making my own crate or ordering a custom basket, but am still searching... So now that Riv seems to have these racks coming, does anyone know if they plan to make a bag for it? John On Jun 3, 10:46 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Riv (grant?) mentions it in their (his?) latest Knothole post, in describing the new pictures in the rotation on the main page. It looks nice, like a campee touring rack with an extended porteur style platform. It looks great, and I assume it'll come out somewhere in the $200 price point, given the current price of the campee rack. I guess it'll compete with the VO porteur, Pass and Stow, etc. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Summer dressing part two
I love my MAFACs, personally, they are great brakes, but the Dia Compe/ Weinmanns work just as well. The finish on the Dia Compes is superior in many cases, IMHO. They are also around in massive piles at used bike shops (around here anyway). Braking is very good, in my opinion, with lots of modulation. Modern pads really have made a huge difference. On Jun 3, 7:18 am, beth h periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: Meanwhile, your observations about cable/housing quality are astute, and I am leaning more and more towards going with the DC 750's. others on this list have indicated that the extra metal beneath the brake pad position isn't anything to worry about, as the calipers are drop forged and pretty sturdy. Aero style/modern brake levers will also get you more leverage and that is noticeable when running center pulls. Personally I would not shy away from center pulls. For the record, if the 750s are too long, you ought to be able to find shorter ones. I know there are lots to be found around here. Cheers, Karl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Cirque du Cyclisme
Although my wallet will be hermetically sealed and guarded from me by Brinks Security, I should be there Sunday at some point. Early I hope...it's my first Cirque. (Not counting Zoomanity in Vegas a few years back...) Marty On Jun 3, 4:08 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody heading to bucolic Leesburg, VA for the Cirque du Cyclisme this weekend? http://www.cirqueducyclisme.com/ (on topic photo from '08 Cirque): http://picasaweb.google.com/USAZorro/Cirque2008#5210274154650250930 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Air France
Has anyone considered that the break up of that jet was due to it's state of the art composite materials not being able to stand the crazy turbulence? I am going to put it out there that these light weight new jets that are proven in the lab to be stronger than their old fashioned metal counterparts may now get a second look. Or maybe I'm completely off base. Just wanted to see if anyone who argues the steel versus carbon fiber real world strength had encountered a discussion about this. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Jack Brown for Ruffy Tuffy
I have two new Jack Browns (blue) that I am not going to use and will trade anyone for two new Ruffy Tuffys. One is still in it's wrapper and the other is out, was mounted (for about 5 minutes) then taken back off without ever being ridden. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Air France
Can I beg everyone to not respond to this since it is so off topic? That, and I can't take another religious carbon vs. aluminum debate. Gino On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Pete p...@20kph.com wrote: Has anyone considered that the break up of that jet was due to it's state of the art composite materials not being able to stand the crazy turbulence? I am going to put it out there that these light weight new jets that are proven in the lab to be stronger than their old fashioned metal counterparts may now get a second look. Or maybe I'm completely off base. Just wanted to see if anyone who argues the steel versus carbon fiber real world strength had encountered a discussion about this. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Cirque du Cyclisme bike ride
There's a 9 am ride Sunday morning the 7th to celebrate the Cirque du Cyclisme. We'll have free admission for those attending the ride. We'll be going to the Cirque after riding. It's a 42 mile ride in the Virginia countryside (including some Virginia hills). The ride start is a couple of miles from the fairgrounds where the Cirque is held. If you would like to join the ride, let me know and I'll send directions to the ride start (Loudoun County High School).Riv content: some of the Sunday morning riders own Rivs, though I can't promise they'll be riding them that day - but there will be classic steel bikes and gear on the rideJoanJun 3, 2009 04:36:08 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:Two or three of us are coming from the Richmond, Virginia area. Iwent last year for the first time and really enjoyed it. Interestingmix of people, young and old, tatts and toupees, a very friendlygroup. The builders were very accessible and engaging and eagerlyanswered questions.On Jun 3, 4:08pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody heading to bucolic Leesburg, VA for the Cirque du Cyclisme this weekend? http://www.cirqueducyclisme.com/ (on topic photo from '08 Cirque): http://picasaweb.google.com/USAZorro/Cirque2008#5210274154650250930 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Air France
I didn't realize you were being forced to read every topic whether you were interested or not. I'm trying to find out if anyone had heard anything about this, I am interested in it. In fact it is something Grant has specifically brought up in a past RR or catalog, (I can't remember which). Has anyone heard a possible link to the composite material being a cause? I apologize if this in fact is too far off topic. If there are no other replies, so be it. On Jun 3, 7:32 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Can I beg everyone to not respond to this since it is so off topic? That, and I can't take another religious carbon vs. aluminum debate. Gino On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Pete p...@20kph.com wrote: Has anyone considered that the break up of that jet was due to it's state of the art composite materials not being able to stand the crazy turbulence? I am going to put it out there that these light weight new jets that are proven in the lab to be stronger than their old fashioned metal counterparts may now get a second look. Or maybe I'm completely off base. Just wanted to see if anyone who argues the steel versus carbon fiber real world strength had encountered a discussion about this. Pete- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Air France
I received a couple emails offline about this. I guess it's true this is too far off topic, so it's cool if it dies out. I subscribe to the digest, I guess I thought of this news group in terms of topic headers and optional reading, perhaps that's not true for everyone. Somebody told me they heard this as a theory of the cause of the Air France break up and Grant popped into my head because I recall him mentioning aircraft and carbon fiber. But I have not been able to get my hands on a news story. I suspect it may come up more over time. Anyway, enough on this and happy biking. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
